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https://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/blog/fsyuzuruhanyu/169825406474 I just saw these 2 AMAZING water paintings. Such skill!
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2017-2018
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Guys, I've just bought this book by Noriko Shirota, and it looks really interesting! (Actually I started reading it at the bookstore and ended up buying it 
)
http://www.shinchosha.co.jp/book/351421/
I have to say I didn't know about her very much, but this book has a lot of her history including the relationships with Japanese skaters in the past. She was a skater competed in Ice Dance and Ladies' single, and she won Japanese Nationals in Ice Dance two times. From 1994 to 2006, she worked for JSF in the same position of Kobayashi's. Also she was a ISU referee and judge in the Worlds and the Olympics.
Some interesting information about Yuzuru.
・There were 3 options for choosing Yuzuru's training base in overseas, Toronto Cricket Club, Detroit Skating Club, and Colorado Springs.
Shirota picked these three and talked over with Yuzuru and his family, and decided to go to Toronto because it was the safest place in terms of dealing with asthma. Detroit might have been good since Yuka Sato was there, which would have made Yuzuru train easier with no language barrier, but if Yuzuru had asthma attacks, his family would have been in trouble without a car (they didn't have driver's license then). Colorado Springs was well known for the computer analysis of the jumps by the coach, Christy Krall, but the land was high altitude and not good for his health. Shirota was relieved that Yuzuru chose Toronto because she had also lived in Toronto before, so she could introduce her acquaintances to him.
・After Sochi Olympics, Shirota suggested to Yuzuru to take 1 year rest, but he said "No".
・When Shirota reads Brians' mails, she always gets ready because if the mail starts with "Mrs. Shirota", it means Yuzuru has been doing well, and if it starts with "Noriko", it means there is something happening to him.
・Shirota introduced Natalia Bestemianova and Igor Bobrin to Yuzuru and Nanami Abe in Okinawa (why Okinawa?:think
Shirota and the couple are good friends since she participated in the competition in Russia as an international judge for the first time.
・Shirota's husband is a doctor and sometimes he gives her the advise.
My thought; if Javier told Brian, "No, I don't want to practice with Yuzuru", then there was a little possibility that Yuzuru and Patrick would train together. (very little, but still :shocked
)http://www.shinchosha.co.jp/book/351421/
I have to say I didn't know about her very much, but this book has a lot of her history including the relationships with Japanese skaters in the past. She was a skater competed in Ice Dance and Ladies' single, and she won Japanese Nationals in Ice Dance two times. From 1994 to 2006, she worked for JSF in the same position of Kobayashi's. Also she was a ISU referee and judge in the Worlds and the Olympics.
Some interesting information about Yuzuru.
・There were 3 options for choosing Yuzuru's training base in overseas, Toronto Cricket Club, Detroit Skating Club, and Colorado Springs.
Shirota picked these three and talked over with Yuzuru and his family, and decided to go to Toronto because it was the safest place in terms of dealing with asthma. Detroit might have been good since Yuka Sato was there, which would have made Yuzuru train easier with no language barrier, but if Yuzuru had asthma attacks, his family would have been in trouble without a car (they didn't have driver's license then). Colorado Springs was well known for the computer analysis of the jumps by the coach, Christy Krall, but the land was high altitude and not good for his health. Shirota was relieved that Yuzuru chose Toronto because she had also lived in Toronto before, so she could introduce her acquaintances to him.
・After Sochi Olympics, Shirota suggested to Yuzuru to take 1 year rest, but he said "No".
・When Shirota reads Brians' mails, she always gets ready because if the mail starts with "Mrs. Shirota", it means Yuzuru has been doing well, and if it starts with "Noriko", it means there is something happening to him.
・Shirota introduced Natalia Bestemianova and Igor Bobrin to Yuzuru and Nanami Abe in Okinawa (why Okinawa?:think
Shirota and the couple are good friends since she participated in the competition in Russia as an international judge for the first time.・Shirota's husband is a doctor and sometimes he gives her the advise.
My thought; if Javier told Brian, "No, I don't want to practice with Yuzuru", then there was a little possibility that Yuzuru and Patrick would train together. (very little, but still :shocked
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Guys, I've just bought this book by Noriko Shirota, and it looks really interesting! (Actually I started reading it at the bookstore and ended up buying it
http://www.shinchosha.co.jp/book/351421/
I have to say I didn't know about her very much, but this book has a lot of her history including the relationships with Japanese skaters in the past. She was a skater competed in Ice Dance and Ladies' single, and she won Japanese Nationals in Ice Dance two times. From 1994 to 2006, she worked for JSF in the same position of Kobayashi's. Also she was a ISU referee and judge in the Worlds and the Olympics.
Some interesting information about Yuzuru.
・There were 3 options for choosing Yuzuru's training base in overseas, Toronto Cricket Club, Detroit Skating Club, and Colorado Springs.
Shirota picked these three and talked over with Yuzuru and his family, and decided to go to Toronto because it was the safest place in terms of dealing with asthma. Detroit might have been good since Yuka Sato was there, which would have made Yuzuru train easier with no language barrier, but if Yuzuru had asthma attacks, his family would have been in trouble without a car (they didn't have driver's license then). Colorado Springs was well known for the computer analysis of the jumps by the coach, Christy Krall, but the land was high altitude and not good for his health. Shirota was relieved that Yuzuru chose Toronto because she had also lived in Toronto before, so she could introduce her acquaintances to him.
・After Sochi Olympics, Shirota suggested to Yuzuru to take 1 year rest, but he said "No".
・When Shirota reads Brians' mails, she always gets ready because if the mail starts with "Mrs. Shirota", it means Yuzuru has been doing well, and if it starts with "Noriko", it means there is something happening to him.
・Shirota introduced Natalia Bestemianova and Igor Bobrin to Yuzuru and Nanami Abe in Okinawa (why Okinawa?:think
・Shirota's husband is a doctor and sometimes he gives her the advise.
My thought; if Javier told Brian, "No, I don't want to practice with Yuzuru", then there was a little possibility that Yuzuru and Patrick would train together. (very little, but still :shocked
wow, very interesting info.
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Yude,
Why would Yuzuru be training with Patrick if Javier didnt agree? One of the other traning centers is where Patrick trains?
Why would Yuzuru be training with Patrick if Javier didnt agree? One of the other traning centers is where Patrick trains?
He used to train in Detroit. Well that would have made for some classic Olympic drama in Sochi
I am very glad he chose TCC in the end. :yes:
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Simple logic + math to tell you why this data is wrong and bias: https://twitter.com/chiburahakkai/status/953890102735810560
and https://twitter.com/chiburahakkai/status/953972091820257281
and https://twitter.com/chiburahakkai/status/953973425839550465
There are debates about the correct numbers in the Russian's blog but he used the same scale for everyone so in the end it's same measurement you get the idea. Hanyu is the top guy who is consistent medal with highest number in this.
Guys, I've just bought this book by Noriko Shirota, and it looks really interesting! (Actually I started reading it at the bookstore and ended up buying it
http://www.shinchosha.co.jp/book/351421/
Some interesting information about Yuzuru.
・There were 3 options for choosing Yuzuru's training base in overseas, Toronto Cricket Club, Detroit Skating Club, and Colorado Springs.
Shirota picked these three and talked over with Yuzuru and his family, and decided to go to Toronto because it was the safest place in terms of dealing with asthma. Detroit might have been good since Yuka Sato was there, which would have made Yuzuru train easier with no language barrier, but if Yuzuru had asthma attacks, his family would have been in trouble without a car (they didn't have driver's license then). Colorado Springs was well known for the computer analysis of the jumps by the coach, Christy Krall, but the land was high altitude and not good for his health. Shirota was relieved that Yuzuru chose Toronto because she had also lived in Toronto before, so she could introduce her acquaintances to him.
・After Sochi Olympics, Shirota suggested to Yuzuru to take 1 year rest, but he said "No".
・When Shirota reads Brians' mails, she always gets ready because if the mail starts with "Mrs. Shirota", it means Yuzuru has been doing well, and if it starts with "Noriko", it means there is something happening to him.
・Shirota's husband is a doctor and sometimes he gives her the advise.
My thought; if Javier told Brian, "No, I don't want to practice with Yuzuru", then there was a little possibility that Yuzuru and Patrick would train together. (very little, but still :shocked
Yude, thank you for sharing, it’s interesting information ~ I was thinking about the exact same thing when reading your post, thank god Javi say “yes”. If Yuzu have to go to places which might have negative impact on his health, it will be so tough to focus on training.
Brian is so easy to understand
just like how he informed everyone, I can’t say anything, but *big smile* everything is going to be ok~
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Chan was also training with Christy Krall around 2011 or 2012, if I remember correctly.
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Chan would say no from the start. No way he would practice with Hanyu.
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To be honest, that's what I thought. And I will not blame him if it was the case since it must be difficult to train with a main rival. I think Javier and Yuzuru are exceptional as Tracy once said.
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Fernandez has benefited a lot from Hanyu so it all works out ok in the end.
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Interesting. If both Patrick and Javier had said no, Yuzuru might have ended up with Rafael and train together with Adam and Nathan. Since Rafael said he's Yuzu's fan, fan enough to get an autograph from Yuzu. lol
Also, wasnt Rafael Mao Asada's coach when she was training in US?
Mao did train with Rafael before.
Does anyone else remember hearing that training in Russia was also considered? I wonder if Shirota mentions that, or if that was just a myth? Perhaps that was more about working with Bestiminova and Borbin.
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Didn't Russia basically have a ban order on Russian coaches training foreign skaters prior to Sochi Olympics?
There is also the "distance" factor, in addition to the height and rotation speed. ~not sure why that data is not presented. shouldn't be that hard.
That’s what I thought too and that may have played a hand in why Yuzu didn’t end up in Russia.
Although I’m not sure how it extended to choreographers as Mao worked with Tarasova still.
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Yomiuri Newspaper this morning, it has Javier's comment about Yuzuru.
https://twitter.com/GERBERA1207/status/954115143482294272
"He will make his physical condition better state in the short period of time. He will stand in Pyeongchang with his usual strong appearance. Shoma Uno and Nathan Chen are also strong. But the biggest rival is Yuzuru. No doubt."
:agree:
https://twitter.com/GERBERA1207/status/954115143482294272
"He will make his physical condition better state in the short period of time. He will stand in Pyeongchang with his usual strong appearance. Shoma Uno and Nathan Chen are also strong. But the biggest rival is Yuzuru. No doubt."
:agree:
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Nathan mentioned about Yuzuru in the interview given after GPF last year.
https://sports.smt.docomo.ne.jp/figureskate/column/20180119_1.html?utm_source=tw
Q: Did you feel the competition was different by not having Hanyu and other skaters?
Of course. The energy of the entire game is different. Yuzuru brings tremendous energy to the competition. As I am, other skaters are also stimulated by his energy, which makes us more energetic than usual. And he gives us strong power, heavy pressure, and excitement that "We must make quad jump successful". With Yuzuru recovers quickly, and Javier, Patrick, Boyang participate, I think it is going to be fun if the Olympics becomes the great competition.
https://sports.smt.docomo.ne.jp/figureskate/column/20180119_1.html?utm_source=tw
Q: Did you feel the competition was different by not having Hanyu and other skaters?
Of course. The energy of the entire game is different. Yuzuru brings tremendous energy to the competition. As I am, other skaters are also stimulated by his energy, which makes us more energetic than usual. And he gives us strong power, heavy pressure, and excitement that "We must make quad jump successful". With Yuzuru recovers quickly, and Javier, Patrick, Boyang participate, I think it is going to be fun if the Olympics becomes the great competition.
