Javier Fernández: Third world title?

pETEs (Sasha Fan) · Oct 15, 2016

Javier Fernández: Set for a Threepeat?

What do you think are the Spaniard chances for a third consecutive World title?

Rissa · Oct 15, 2016

50%.

It should be a toss up between him and Hanyu, as always. But he's got a better track record of performing at worlds... so... 55%? :biggrin:

Crossover · Oct 15, 2016

Feasible, but anything can happen because ice is slippery.

ETA: I'm more interested in who's going to take the bronze in Helsinki this season though as the gold and silver seem to be a lock unless something unexpected happens. Patrick, Boyang, Shoma, Nathan, Kovtun, Kolyada, Jason...

This will be interesting.

andromache · Oct 15, 2016

No one can beat a clean Hanyu....so it really depends on how he does. Shoma and Boyang might be more on Javier's heels this season as well, though I expect more consistency overall from Javi because he isn't introducing new quads.

While Hanyu is obviously in a class of his own overall, I love that Javier stayed clean and won Worlds. The men's competition was wayyyyyy too predictable going into Worlds, with everyone assuming Yuzuru would run away with it. I like unpredictable results!

The odds will, I expect, again be against Javier. But he could still accomplish it.

Crossover · Oct 15, 2016

pETEs (Sasha Fan) said:
What do you think are the Spaniard chances for a third consecutive World title?

Are you going to make a similar thread for pairs? I would love to see that.

da96103 · Oct 15, 2016

If you want to win the Olympic gold medal, don't win the Worlds 3 times consecutively.

CeCiLiA · Oct 15, 2016

da96103 said:
If you want to win the Olympic gold medal, don't win the Worlds 3 times consecutively.

sunnystars · Oct 15, 2016

I think Javier gets underestimated here so I say yes.

pETEs (Sasha Fan) · Oct 15, 2016

Crossover said:
Are you going to make a similar thread for pairs? I would love to see that.

pETEs (Sasha Fan) · Oct 15, 2016

da96103 said:
If you want to win the Olympic gold medal, don't win the Worlds 3 times consecutively.

Why? There's an omen on that or what?

EdgeCall · Oct 15, 2016

da96103 said:
If you want to win the Olympic gold medal, don't win the Worlds 3 times consecutively.

This only applies to Canadians.

xibsuarz · Oct 15, 2016

It will up to who is skates with the least mistakes those two days. If Yuzuru is clean, he's got it. But his programs are more riskier layout-wise than Javier, and that is a double-edge sword. If he nails them, he can runaway with the title, if not Javier has the goods to win. Javier's usually at his best during Worlds, but we don't if Yuzuru will do any adjustments to his training in order to also be at his best in March. I think whoever wins the GPF will come off as the favorite, but as always, that doesn't guarantee anything. In short, I think his chances are good, but it won't just be up to him.
But barring a disaster, they should be 1-2 this year, too. The bronze medal...that's going to be harder to predict. Right now, I'm leaning towards Shoma, as he has a good balance between TES and PCS. But it would amazing if Worlds could be similar to last year's GPF where we had so many clean/almost clean skates (I can dream, right?)

da96103 · Oct 15, 2016

da96103 said:
If you want to win the Olympic gold medal, don't win the Worlds 3 times consecutively.

EdgeCall said:
This only applies to Canadians.

I thought the meaning behind this, is obvious but only EdgeCall understood this cryptic sentence. Looks like the skating fans are more enamored with the young ones: Chen, Boyang, Uno.
Old skaters (who are not even retired yet) are forgotten in less than 4 years.

4everchan · Oct 15, 2016

and so will be the youngster coming 2026.... older fans like some of us, know of the Canadian Curse.. this time around, I feel that our Canadian isn't skating for gold nor is the favourite... that's different so perhaps the curse will be broken... once and for ever. I know 90% of the people on this forum wish otherwise

but I don't care..

As for Javi, he does everything well so why not? He has just as many chances as the other skaters to win this year. May the best one that day earns the gold.

da96103 said:
I thought the meaning behind this, is obvious but only EdgeCall understood this cryptic sentence. Looks like the skating fans are more enamored with the young ones: Chen, Boyang, Uno.
Old skaters (who are not even retired yet) are forgotten in less than 4 years.

mrrice · Oct 15, 2016

4everchan said:
and so will be the youngster coming 2026.... older fans like some of us, know of the Canadian Curse.. this time around, I feel that our Canadian isn't skating for gold nor is the favourite... that's different so perhaps the curse will be broken... once and for ever. I know 90% of the people on this forum wish otherwise but I don't care..

As for Javi, he does everything well so why not? He has just as many chances as the other skaters to win this year. May the best one that day earns the gold.

I agree. Patrick came back for a lot of reasons but we all know that he wants to break the "Curse" and I think it's entirely possible. Every time I think about 2010, it still shocks that Evan was able to defeat all those great skaters, ( Including Plushy ) without a quad. If Evan can do it, Patrick certainly can. Worlds in 2017 will be huge and the winner will certainly carry the momentum into the games just like Evan did as the winner of Worlds in 2009.

4everchan · Oct 15, 2016

i don't know

i think he suffered from the curse in 2014 already and he just wants to keep developing gorgeous skating. his new lp is gorgeous.

mrrice said:
I agree. Patrick came back for a lot of reasons but we all know that he wants to break the "Curse" and I think it's entirely possible. Every time I think about 2010, it still shocks that Evan was able to defeat all those great skaters, ( Including Plushy ) without a quad. If Evan can do it, Patrick certainly can. Worlds in 2017 will be huge and the winner will certainly carry the momentum into the games just like Evan did as the winner of Worlds in 2009.

mrrice · Oct 15, 2016

4everchan said:
i don't know i think he suffered from the curse in 2014 already and he just wants to keep developing gorgeous skating. his new lp is gorgeous.

Okay.................But if he wins, you buy the Ice Wine...

xibsuarz · Oct 15, 2016

da96103 said:
If you want to win the Olympic gold medal, don't win the Worlds 3 times consecutively.

Personally, I don't like to think of it as a matter of "the Canadian curse". I just think the skaters can have good or bad days, or there may be other factors (pressure, injuries, etc)

4everchan · Oct 15, 2016

if he wins, there will be champagne

or chanpagne

mrrice said:
Okay.................But if he wins, you buy the Ice Wine...

4everchan · Oct 15, 2016

tell this to the many canadian men, world champions the year prior to olympics who didn't get the gold

xibsuarz said:
Personally, I don't like to think of it as a matter of "the Canadian curse". I just think the skaters can have good or bad days, or there may be other factors (pressure, injuries, etc)

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