I had doubts about posting the idea of counseling. In posts 3594 (last 2 sentences) and 3597 I suggested a plan that is not just crisis intervention and psychological support. From the little I have read, every top athlete will have issues involving success and failure, often serious. Choose the personnel carefully, call them coaches if you like, and make them permanently available with the intention of creating a deep bond with the athlete over many years. They would be given administrative roles. According to reports Yulia was pushed into the GPF, and afterward she said she didn't understand the benefits of competing there. Counselors would be advocates of the skater's best interests, maybe then the skater's voice would be heard and respected. This is the big brother approach. By integrating this service for all athletes into the training structure, there would be no stigma associated with going to the shrink. Of course this would evolve in ways I can't imagine.
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What if the counselors follow the Federation's suggestion?
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Yes, because he/she is going to be paid by them. How do you see Yulia going to a complete stranger for help at this point in her life? Eteri is a wise woman and I think she knows better than us what Yulia needs now.
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Oh, I love these two. 
http://www.ellegirl.ru/images/th/0/...406e7e7a6728c4e64d197897cb-ODI4OWM3ZWM1Ng.jpg
I think we can all agree that Yulia has our 100% support, unconditionally.
But we should be able to speak and discuss, with each other here at least, things which worry us about our favorite skater. It might be a completly wrong perception that we have, but we are fans and that's what fans do. Today they cry, go mad, be angry, be pessimistic and tomorrow they are happy, cheers, etc. etc.
http://www.ellegirl.ru/images/th/0/...406e7e7a6728c4e64d197897cb-ODI4OWM3ZWM1Ng.jpg
I think we can all agree that Yulia has our 100% support, unconditionally.
But we should be able to speak and discuss, with each other here at least, things which worry us about our favorite skater. It might be a completly wrong perception that we have, but we are fans and that's what fans do. Today they cry, go mad, be angry, be pessimistic and tomorrow they are happy, cheers, etc. etc.
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Hear hear!! :thumbsup:Oh, I love these two.
http://www.ellegirl.ru/images/th/0/...406e7e7a6728c4e64d197897cb-ODI4OWM3ZWM1Ng.jpg
I think we can all agree that Yulia has our 100% support, unconditionally.
But we should be able to speak and discuss, with each other here at least, things which worry us about our favorite skater. It might be a completly wrong perception that we have, but we are fans and that's what fans do. Today they cry, go mad, be angry, be pessimistic and tomorrow they are happy, cheers, etc. etc.
I assume you mean that the counselor agrees with the fed. The counselor's role is not to persuade, it is to explore. The counselor would thoroughly explore fed suggestions with a skater regardless of personal bias, then the skater would decide. The fed would suggest, the counselor would explore, the skater would decide. Ideally,the fed should not have the power to subjectively determine a skater's career, such as by appointments to teams. If the fed can determine careers, then the need for counseling is even greater.
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To tell the truth I don't trust any federation much. I assume they are more interested in medals and reputation than their skaters' mental and physical health. Even though I think Russian fed did help Yulia Antipova in her case. That's why I am worried about Yulia. She is their star but not their only star. Had she placed well at GPF I think they might save a slot for her at Europe or WC. But now it all depends on her performances at national. Personally I think if she wants to go for it and go through it, better try now because it's not like she can go back to the beginning of this season. Even if she doesn't make the world team, she still have next season to show up and prove herself. She is just 16. It's not like Russian fed can write her off just because of a not good season. They couldn't write Liza off after all.
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I don't trust the fed at all.
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I actually really liked the new dress. Maybe she just wears it well.
I agree. The one at TEB was beautiful up close but when the camera pulled out the detail of the dress was lost and the colour was not that great. This one you may not like the colours (I love the dress too, Sam), but it looks similar up close and far away. This is how a skating dress should be, because how it looks from far away affects what the judges see. Outfits must influence a little bit how judges view the program when they're watching the skater from the far side of the rink. (Even if it shouldn't.)
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I happen to like her new FS dress too.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Yulia did her I-spin differently in both SP and EX at GPF?
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2014/ykU0tq.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2014/_UMOLs.gif
Is this the "crazy" position she talked about during preseason?
Eteri Tutberidze: When asked how the plan to solve the issue with the program, Tutberidze said she would "make a completely new one. But these are just my thoughts. I asked Yulia if she would like to say goodbye to Julietta. She said we are not going to change anything and will do everything as it is."
the quote above indicates the level of their bewilderment. If the root of the problem is late preparation, how could Eteri suggest "a completely new one?"
the quote above indicates the level of their bewilderment. If the root of the problem is late preparation, how could Eteri suggest "a completely new one?"
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I happen to like her new FS dress too.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Yulia did her I-spin differently in both SP and EX at GPF?
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2014/ykU0tq.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2014/_UMOLs.gif
Is this the "crazy" position she talked about during preseason?
Yes I noticed that crazy new position ;p
By the way I have a question, do you know when will be the selection for the european championship? Is it during the nationals ?
I don't really know maybe the problem is not about the late preparation... Anyway, Yulia looks determinate to keep R&J program, and her determination is a good thing. I think things gonna be better for Yulia. I noticed fighting spirit in her eyes !!
That is the implication.
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I only know the selection will be made after the Nationals but I am not sure how the selection will be made. From what I read from elsewhere, it does not seem to be a simple transparent process.:think:
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Yes. The Russian fed will take the results of nationals and decide who gets to go where.
I highly doubt Adelina will be at Nationals. So if Yulia finishes above Anna, she's definitely going to Euros, unless she or Eteri personally declines the selection. Finish one position lower than Anna, then it will be close but I think ultimately Rus Fed will go with Yulia. Finish two or more positions below Anna and then it becomes a problem. Rus Fed doesn't like Alena so unless she wins Nationals, I doubt they will send her to Euros. Liza and Elena are definitely going to Euros unless they bomb Nationals, decline the selection or Rus Fed has a brain-fart.
yes the implication the self confidence and the changement of skates....
Thank you for the answer 
But the goal of adelina was to be present at the nationals and she looks determinate to participate at this event .... I hope Yulia will be at the european if she decides to participate at this competition of course !!! And I think that Yulia has to be chosen by the fed because she is the european champion and she has the right to defend her title !!
But the goal of adelina was to be present at the nationals and she looks determinate to participate at this event .... I hope Yulia will be at the european if she decides to participate at this competition of course !!! And I think that Yulia has to be chosen by the fed because she is the european champion and she has the right to defend her title !!
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