Paris Shootings and Explosions

[Mista Ekko]

Honestly, If there's an increased security team that gives a damn, The Audience and Athletes would be probably even safer in the Arena
than just walking around in the city.

IMO the only reason for cancelation at this point is if they choose to do it out of respect for the fallen

 

[skateluvr]

French foreign ministry says airports to remain open, flights, trains to continue.

They may have airports partially open to detain anyone who tries to escape that way but the borders are closed.

 

[Hyena]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the French athletes want nothing more to be on the ice skating tomorrow. Sometimes putting your nose to the grindstone is the only way to cope with fear or grief. Still, I think either having a closed event or delaying until Sunday would be understandable.

 

[peg]

My heart right now is with the victims, their family, and also the immigrants who will undoubtedly be scapegoated by many ignorant individuals over the coming days and months.

This 1000x. I'm already seeing very anti-Musiim comments in various places online even though we currently do not know who was responsible.

 

[ice coverage]

The day after 9/11, every access point into and out of Manhattan was closed, and remained closed for several days. All air traffic over the city ceased with the exception of helicopter patrols. ...

After 9/11, the entire U.S. airspace was shut down for days -- all commercial flights cancelled, both domestic and international.

 

[peg]

After 9/11, the entire U.S. airspace was shut down for days -- all commercial flights cancelled, both domestic and international.

Of course, that was partly because the attacks came from the air and by hijacking commercial flights

 

[Mista Ekko]

This 1000x. I'm already seeing very anti-Musiim comments in various places online even though we currently do not know who was responsible.

And yet, You will need to find a place in your heart to understand those who are so afraid and frustrated that they need to vent a little,
As long as it's not anything explicitly offensive or Violent (Which you might've seen already) Or people who are trying to make Political bank, Let's not be judgemental, The only villains here are murderous terrorists.

 

[WeakAnkles]

After 9/11, the entire U.S. airspace was shut down for days -- all commercial flights cancelled, both domestic and international.

I'm only going by what I remember. Like standing by the Hudson River--you can get pretty close at some points up in my neighborhood--and watching the smoke from the Towers. Which it did for several days. And thinking, geez, I really do live on an island. How the hell would I get off it if need be?

 

[ice coverage]

Of course, that was partly because the attacks came from the air and by hijacking commercial flights

And of course we all remember that. My point is that the precautions taken after 9/11 were even more extensive than what WeakAnkles mentioned.

 

[sabinfire]

Of course, that was partly because the attacks came from the air and by hijacking commercial flights

In this case in France, attacks were aimed at a sports venue and a theater. I wonder if these type of events will be cancelled this weekend?

 

[shiroKJ]

And yet, You will need to find a place in your heart to understand those who are so afraid and frustrated that they need to vent a little,
As long as it's not anything explicitly offensive or Violent (Which you might've seen already) Let's not be judgemental, The only villains here are murderous terrorists.

That's a dangerous slope. It may begin "innocently" enough, but feed ignorance with hate and anger, and what you'll end up with is violent extremists.

 

[Jammers]

I bet France will think twice about letting in those refugees from the Middle east now. It's insane to let in anyone from that area of the world right now.

 

[peg]

And yet, You will need to find a place in your heart to understand those who are so afraid and frustrated that they need to vent a little,
As long as it's not anything explicitly offensive or Violent (Which you might've seen already) Or people who are trying to make Political bank, Let's not be judgemental, The only villains here are murderous terrorists.

Sorry, but venting against people who have absolutely nothing to do with the attacks just because a) people make assumptions about who is involved and b) figure that anyone who happens to share that race or religion is guilty by association is not ok in my book. If you have confirmation that a certain person s involved, then vent away. But not based on assumptions and racist attitudes.

Nobody makes those kind of assumptions when the terrorist is a white Christian male, even though in the US more mass deaths have been caused by white, far right, and Christian extremist than by Muslim terrorists. That double standard is nothing more than racism.

I can understand fear. I would be scared too. But being fearful is different from scapegoating - and particularly scapegoating based on assumptions.

 

[ice coverage]

I'm only going by what I remember. Like standing by the Hudson River--you can get pretty close at some points up in my neighborhood--and watching the smoke from the Towers. Which it did for several days. And thinking, geez, I really do live on an island. How the hell would I get off it if need be?

And miles north of the WTC, the smell of smoke was heavy and persistent. A visceral experience (on a small level) even for those who were many, many blocks away from Ground Zero.

 

[Mista Ekko]

That's a dangerous slope. It may begin "innocently" enough, but feed ignorance with hate and anger, and what you'll end up with is violent extremists.

Well, It's gonna happen, So might as well try and meet it and reason with it as gently as possible,
The slippery slope occurs when you dismiss it out of hand i find.

 

[peg]

And of course we all remember that. My point is that the precautions taken after 9/11 were even more extensive than what WeakAnkles mentioned.

Fair enough. And the attacks also targeted more than just NYC

 

[shiroKJ]

And miles north of the WTC, the smell of smoke was heavy and persistent. A visceral experience (on a small level) even for those who were many, many blocks away from Ground Zero.

I was all the way in Brooklyn, and not only did I see the smoke but I heard it through our school windows. Unfortunately one of my teachers lost her brother in the attack...

 

[Mista Ekko]

Sorry, but venting against people who have absolutely nothing to do with the attacks just because a) people make assumptions about who is involved and b) figure that anyone who happens to share that race or religion is guilty by association is not ok in my book. If you have confirmation that a certain person s involved, then vent away. But not based on assumptions and racist attitudes.

Nobody makes those kind of assumptions when the terrorist is a white Christian male, even though in the US more mass deaths have been caused by white, far right, and Christian extremist than by Muslim terrorists. That double standard is nothing more than racism.

I can understand fear. I would be scared too. But being fearful is different from scapegoating - and particularly scapegoating based on assumptions.

Then again, It might just be me who is too patient

I've spent most of last summer trying to converse and reason with people who were wishing me dead

 

[Ophelia]

^yes...bc ME refugees are to be blamed for this. +1 for dangerous generalization...

 

[ice coverage]

Fair enough. And the attacks also targeted more than just NYC

And of course we all remember the Pentagon and Shanksville too.

If it is important to you to give a full recap of 9/11, no problem, but please stop addressing your comments to me.

I was merely reinforcing one detail from 9/11 that another member happened to mention.