Regarding doing a 3Lz-3T vs a 3Lz-3Lo, why is the 3Lo almost always underrotated by EVERY skater and not just Mao?
Because it's super hard!
It's also the kind of combo that totally favors very small bodies. So when Mao was young it was consistently rotated. Then it started getting harder for her, although I believe several of the underrotation calls she's received on it over the years have been wrong. Her executions of it in the Short Program at 2008 Worlds and then 2014 Olympics and Worlds (although here it was the first jump that was called) being the most striking, off the top of my head.
Because it's super hard!
It's also the kind of combo that totally favors very small bodies. So when Mao was young it was consistently rotated. Then it started getting harder for her, although I believe several of the underrotation calls she's received on it over the years have been wrong. Her executions of it in the Short Program at 2008 Worlds and then 2014 Olympics and Worlds (although here it was the first jump that was called) being the most striking, off the top of my head.
This season, Mao was the only senior lady doing the 3x +3Lo combination. However there were quite a few juniors doing it, and all of them had pretty good success rate. Here are some notable ones:
Wakaba Higuchi: 3Lz+3Lo 11.10 +1.20 = 12.30 https://youtu.be/wFVDnlvLZig?t=4m44s
Na Hyun Kim: 3Lo+3Lo 10.20 +0.50 = 10.70 https://youtu.be/qUloIxxzfw4?t=4m11s
Yuna Shiraiwa: 3S+3Lo 9.50 +1.00 = 10.50 https://youtu.be/3oHY5gRXTxU?t=5m1s
Sam-Skwantch, have you checked the 60fps link I posted a few days ago? It seems to me that in its raw form it's already noticably better than the 25fps-based jumpamatron. 60fps+jumpamatron will likely get even more precise results. Here's the link to Gracie's SP, you'll find a lot more stuff in this poster's channel. Please note that you need a youtube downloader to find the 60fps-footage. I used firefox with the "Youtube Video and Audio Downloader" plugin.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/...re-compete-pyeongchang-olympics/#.Vw3-dTArKM9
Mao: “I believe I can still compete for some years. At the very end, I want to have a skating career in which I did all I could, in which it was good to have made a comeback and from which I can walk away with a smile on my face.”
"if Pyeonchang is there at the end waiting for me, I’ll be happy."
http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASJ4D4K6VJ4DUTQP01T.html
But even Tara Lipinski who was tiny in stature and known for her 3Lo-3Lo would probably get an underrotation call by today's standards. I'm guessing Irina and Sarah H would as well.
I don't know if this would count, but Na Hyun Kim did the 3Lo+3Lo at a senior competition, so wouldn't she count as a senior lady?
EnIrina would definitely get many underrotation calls, she was never consistent with her +3Loop combos and only did one or two 3Lutz+3Loop in her entire competitive career that weren't underrotated.
I think Lipinski's 3Lo+3Lo was sufficiently rotated at all of her most important competitions (97 Nationals, 97+98 GPF, 97 Worlds, 98 Olympics).
Sarah...was almost always overly under rotated. But at the Olympics her 3Toe+3Loop was okay and the 3Sal+3Loop wasn't so bad either.
I know right? People say Yuna skates so fast, and then I was like, "of course she is fast, it is pretty hard not to be fast if you do like 5 crossovers before going into an element." Im not kidding, she did like 7 crossovers before going into her 3Lz+3T in her 007 SP at Vancouver, and then 6 before going into the flip. She did less crossovers in Sochi before going into jumps but then still, there's this moment when you realised it's "crossover time" where she did like 4 crossovers at one side of the rink.
I am not saying it is bad or what, but sometimes I just don't get why she got praised so much on her skating speed when she did some obvious speeding moves.
I think you're right. 3F-3T, 3Lo, 2A in the short. 3F-3T, 2A-3T and 5 more jumping passes in the long (without a 3A) and she will win it all.
That's because Mao UR and and Yuna does not. Simple
With her 3Ltz ratified this season as well as back in 2007-2008, Mao is one of ONLY 4 women who has gotten all 6 triple jumps ratified in Figure Skating's 100+ year history.
1. Midori Ito
2. Tonya Harding
3. Mao Asada
4. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
With her 3Ltz ratified this season as well as back in 2007-2008, Mao is one of ONLY 4 women who has gotten all 6 triple jumps ratified in Figure Skating's 100+ year history.
1. Midori Ito
2. Tonya Harding
3. Mao Asada
4. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva