Figure Skating Anime

[Alchamei]

OMG the feels I haven't even recovered from the real GPF and now I have to wait a week to see YoI FS!

Anyway I agree, these scores kinds went out of hand, I don't understand why Yuri is so low with just a hand down, Yurio got 118 and JJ got 86 with two invalid passes.

I didn't expect Yuri would be so low! But I am vlád they didn't go full Hollywood with the flip. I am happy Yurio ia the lead! He may be arogant and cold but his charakter has depth and I like the relationship between Yuris! also, I wanted JJ to mees up but I almost felt sorry for him.

And most importantly: YURI, DON'T BE AN IDIOT AND DON'T LEAVE VIKTOR! DON'T YOU SEE YOU TWO ARE MADE FOR EACH OTHER? But seriously, what could the last minute mean?

 

[gladiolusc]

Kubo-sensei said the last episode will have no OP and ED - longer episode! But yes, scoring makes so little sense.

Some people say Yuri under-rotated for the quad flip? I'll have to rewatch when crunchyroll is less slow. But I agree JJ's results make no sense, he bombed in all senses of the word, it should have been 60s-70s and not just 10 behind Yuri. IMHO, the creators probably decided that Yuri had to do a less stellar job for SP for all the feels to come out as a plot device, and then FS will be beautiful (he hasn't ever skated that clean. He'll land the quad flip. ). Still such a heartbreak to watch though! :sad4:

 

[karne]

^No, the only comments about the rotation came from the triplets, who said they thought it was around. No-one else mentioned it. JJ's quad toe was UR and was specifically mentioned as UR, which is what makes me think Yuri's 4F was around, because if it was UR they would have said.

 

[Yatagarasu]

Yeah, about the programs I am also not sure how it's possible for R-Yuri to break the world record with that layout, considering Victor has more difficult quads. What did he do? Just decide not to use them for the lolz? It's not internally consistent, even if we dismiss actual numbers. The whole look arms above was also irritating as it was seriously giving the impression that is something that adds immense value. They really are messing up mightily on the scoring. :disapp:

Also, I'm going to slap Yuri if he keeps up with this "we should end this". NO YOU DON'T, YURI.

All in all, the episode felt really short, probably because it was really light on character development. I hope we get a double-length final episode, even if I have to get up earlier to squish it in before work.

About Yuuri, I think this is a ruse for a cliffhanger and what he means is, lets end the coaching relationship. When he saw Victor watching R-Yuri, with everything else, he wants to 'let Victor go' and 'set him free' in order to allow him to return to competitive skating. This was probably especially exacerbated due to his bad SP, ignoring the score and how we got there here, so we're probably back to the whole I'm unworthy state. And that really, really irritates me? I am really not happy with how the skater part is coming out. Yes, he'll probably have some grand FS now but it just bugs that suddenly the 15yo is breaking the WR and Yuuri is, yet again, failing. Blah. Especially considering this kind of smells of Machida again. /w

Oh yes, almost forgot. About the possible ending, never forget the Japanese have a thing for a variation on star-crossed lovers. Just in case. So while we may get oh they love each other, they may also choose to split them apart, in terms of locations, if Victor does go back to skating. And the episode will be just slightly longer, they already said it, for about 3 minutes or so.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Well, they might pull a red herring on us and when Yuri said 'let's end this', he didn't mean their relationship, but something else that is kind of dramatic... or something like it.

And I'd echo what everyone already said: the scoring is soooo all over the place. The poor people watching actual FS after this, being totally confused how skaters can win with hand downs and falls

What peeves me off most though is that R-Yuris WR with that layout is mathematically not possible with the CoP.
If I'm not completely wrong, his jump BV is 36; maximum GOE on jumps would be +9; steps with lv 4 and max GOE give you 6 points; the highest spin BV you can get is 3,5 + 3 + 3 = 9,5; maximum spin GOE would be 3 x 1,5 = 4,5. Which would, with a perfect 50 in PCS, mean 115 points.
I know I'm weird, but that annoys me even more that the unrealistically huge deduction for points, or the way too low one for popped jumps/invalid elements

On the positive side: Nobuuuuuuuuuu!!!!

And also, I'm honestly dying with laughter at the huge breakdown Yuri had because of a friggin' hand down. On a quad flip at that! Man, I really, really want the current crop of top male skaters to watch that scene together and see their faces
Real life men landing a clean quad combo + 4F with hand down: arty:
Anime character landing clean quad combo + 4F with hand down: :sad21:

I don't even know why, but it really cracks me up!

 

[Yatagarasu]

I love Evgenia

Evgenia Medvedeva ‏@JannyMedvedeva 3h3 hours ago
Um, ok. In free program Yuri will made his best performance in his life and they will get married. Good night.

I can see her flouncing after that and just

 

[Yatagarasu]

What peeves me off most though is that R-Yuris WR with that layout is mathematically not possible with the CoP.

You're not wrong but I've sort of decided their scoring system is just different after the weirdness that was Phichit which also explains the sheer agony that followed the hand down. It is hilarious tbh and actually I have seen confused people who think a hand down is something massive we can add Tano to that list now too considering how they played it up.
I do think Yuuri's "break up" is just the old, already mentioned, retirement but even if it is that, it doesn't mean it'll end satisfactory. I guess it'll depend on what people want. I would not be happy in any way if they decided on split locations in the end. Forget that. I am with Evgenia

 

[Li'Kitsu]

You're not wrong but I've sort of decided their scoring system is just different after the weirdness that was Phichit which also explains the sheer agony that followed the hand down. It is hilarious tbh and actually I have seen confused people who think a hand down is something massive we can add Tano to that list now too considering how they played it up.
I do think Yuuri's "break up" is just the old, already mentioned, retirement but even if it is that, it doesn't mean it'll end satisfactory. I guess it'll depend on what people want. I would not be happy in any way if they decided on split locations in the end. Forget that. I am with Evgenia

These poor confused people, I would love to have reaction videos to that too
I dunno, so far I'm expecting them to go with a happy ending. Maybe like, Yuri is coming back strong but gets only 2nd, decides that is enough motivation to go - with Victor as coach - for another gold medal, and they just postpone the wedding until that point. And tada: 2nd season, World Championships. And people actually learn that the GPF is kinda not the most important event in FS

But also, I know this is mean but... I'd think it painfully funny if JJ - the only guy to qualify with 2 GP wins - managed to bomb himself of the podium. You know, like the 2 guys going into the 2016 GPF who won their 2 events...

 

[GF2445]

Im just sad that Yuuri got a downgrade on his 4F. Clear forwards landing.

12.3 BV....13.53 with 1.1X

turned into
5.3 BV....5.83 with 1.1X with -2,-3 GOE= as little as 3 or so points for that attempt.

 

[karne]

Im just sad that Yuuri got a downgrade on his 4F. Clear forwards landing.

12.3 BV....13.53 with 1.1X

turned into
5.3 BV....5.83 with 1.1X with -2,-3 GOE= as little as 3 or so points for that attempt.

Just because the animation showed him landing forward, doesn't mean he actually did. As I said, they clearly stated that JJ's 4T was under rotated, but nothing was said about Yuri's 4F, so IMO that means it was clean. The scoring system is just whacked.

 

[ioanna]

Emo Yuuri reminds me of Tatsuki Machida's interview after the end of the 2014 Grand Prix Final.

I’ve faced my challenges and performed until the end without giving up. Symphony no 9 (read Tatsuki!!! on Ice) is a program that’s been designed based on my ideals and desired direction in skating to the point that I’m wondering if the ideal can be achieved.

Ah, if only Machida had a Victor Nikiforov of his own.

I don't see how this show can continue with Nationals or Worlds unless they make some kind of deal with Fuji TV. I'm very curious.

 

[karne]

I'm hoping we get season 2 with 4CC, since it has been very specifically name-dropped now a couple of times, as well as Nationals and Worlds.

Maybe Yuri will go to 4CC and will have to come against the charming Australian skater who has worked hard to overtake them all...!

 

[Meoima]

I just hope they will not air season 2 during Olympic season. It's kind of hard to deal with the huge amount of new fans during Olympic with their misconception about figure skating scoring thanks to this show.

 

[xibsuarz]

Just because the animation showed him landing forward, doesn't mean he actually did. As I said, they clearly stated that JJ's 4T was under rotated, but nothing was said about Yuri's 4F, so IMO that means it was clean. The scoring system is just whacked.

And didn't the triplets and their mom specifically said it was round?

I was reacting to the scores the way I would in an actual competition, what has this thing done to me?

So yeah, as everyone here, the scores didn't make the least sense to me. Aside from the fact that Yurio's score is not possible (thanks Li'Kitsu ) I don't get how Yuuri couldn't score over 100 with a clean 3A, a 4S+3T and a 4F (even with that hand down, he would get an average of -2 at most? 9.1 or so for that element. And there couldn't be any PCS issue, since IIRC, Phichit (I think) said Yuuri was one of the skaters who did get good PCS during the COC episode.
And if Yuuri's SP didn't break 100, I don't really get why Chris did. If it was UR (they didn't name it but it looked like and edge jump and (I think) only the skater from S. Korea could do the 4Lo so I'm guessing it's a 4S) both the BV and the GOE would drop. So I had thought he would have been closer to Yuuri's score (Chris had the 4Lz advantage, but I thought it would be closer with that UR.
And don't even get me started on JJ's score. Though I don't get why he would choke all of a sudden, he seems like a skater with experience, this can't be his first GPF. Perhaps it's because he was always behind Victor and didn't have the pressure of being "the favorite".
This threat is such a fun place to discuss the series, because I think this is the only sort of competition which we can discuss without ripping our throats apart And it's quite funny how a big part of the threat are "blank" spaces to avoid spoilers :yes:

I just hope they will not air season 2 during Olympic season. It's kind of hard to deal with the huge amount of new fans during Olympic with their misconception about figure skating scoring thanks to this show.

I see it lasting as long as the current season. It's not that common for animes to last that long (it would be over a year and a half?)

 

[VIETgrlTerifa]

This must be an idealized scoring system where PCS differentials between skaters are bigger, GOE matters more, and hand-downs/falls/visible errors matter a lot more than underrotations. So clean triples will score higher than a Quad Flip with a hand down. It's sort of like an extreme version of the 2008-2010 COP except the men are going for quads anyway and not strategizing so much other than putting jumps in the second half and Tanoing and Ripponing their jumps (well just Yurio anyway).

Btw, that whole JJ sequence almost made me cry. I don't like him, but I really felt for him and loved how the audience rallied for him.

The fans who don't know skating probably don't really pay that much attention to the scoring system. I hope this continues in the Olympic season and I want to see many more fans get involved in the skating fandom and actually watch this sport.

 

[karne]

^Just as long as they don't do nasty stuff like vandalise Yuzuru's wikipedia page to make his name Yuuri Katsuki (and change his coach to Victor Nikiforov)...

 

[VIETgrlTerifa]

^Just as long as they don't do nasty stuff like vandalise Yuzuru's wikipedia page to make his name Yuuri Katsuki (and change his coach to Victor Nikiforov)...

Did that happen?

 

[karne]

Did that happen?

Yes, it did. It has been fixed now. Unfortunately when people got mad about it the reaction of some YoI fans was to say "chill out, it's just a joke"...

 

[shiroKJ]

Yes, it did. It has been fixed now. Unfortunately when people got mad about it the reaction of some YoI fans was to say "chill out, it's just a joke"...

They also changed his list of program music to Yuuri's :disapp: The crazies always comes in waves....

But I guess as long as they're not bothering the skaters themselves, mainly in person (during competitions/fan banners/etc) then it's not too terrible. My standards are low as you can see.

 

[VIETgrlTerifa]

This was honestly my favorite part of this past episode:

https://streamable.com/lviq

It's cheesy as hell, but I loved every moment of it. I totally got caught up in it.