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What a shame, I love watching vids from gala practices. I still hope for quad battle, but who knows, there weren't many this season. I remember only the one from CoC.

There was one at GPF, right? Iirc only Yuzu and Javi participated (Shoma was hiding :laugh:). It was the last time we saw CoD landed... :slink:
 
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Natalya Bestemyanova mentions Yuzu in her latest interview...

http://www.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/967399

- Кому еще из нынешних фигуристов симпатизируете?
- Вместе с моим мужем Игорем Бобриным мы участвовали в подготовке японского фигуриста Юдзуру Ханю. Когда он из юниоров выходил на взрослый уровень, то мы с ним занимались несколько раз в году: он приезжал к нам в Москву, мы – к нему в Японию. Так продолжалось несколько лет, пока он не ушел тренироваться к Брайану Орсеру. Он до сих пор поздравляет нас с праздниками. На 30-летие нашего театра прислал цветы, на открытке было написано: «Сэнсэю Наталье и сэнсэю Игорю» и добавлены поздравления и пожелания. Подпись: «Ваш ученик Юдзуру Ханю».

Незабываемый случай произошел на Олимпиаде в Сочи. Мы приехали в гостиницу на встречу с японским продюсером ледовых шоу. Заходим в отель: полукругом стоят - мама Юдзуру, папа, представители федерации, судьи – кланяются нам и долго так стоят. У девушек на ресепшене глаза на лоб полезли! Незабываемые ощущения.

Awww Yuzu is such a darling :luv17::ghug: He never forgets.

Thanks for the share :thank:
 
Thank you Prof! :thank:
Aww, so great to see Yuzuru has not forgotten them and that he still signs it as their student, Yuzuru Hanyu. But that's the kind of man he is. :luv17: Also wonderful to hear about the Sochi bit, reminds of me of TAT's comments about the EX music!
Plus I've just been talking about Bestemyanova and Yuzuru with a friend a few days ago, spooky!

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I've been watching Mao's Sochi FS due to the bittersweet memory thread and good grief, someone save me, I now want to see him skate to Rach.
 
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I think that you may be right about Yuzu and Team Japan. "Old" boys in TJ back then were good friends if I remeber correctly, so it's not weird that they weren't so eager to befriend someone who was a new threat to them. It may also be one of the reasons why he is so invested in playing big bro for younger skaters, like Satoko (poor baby, I like her so much :sad21: ) and Shoma.

I don't feel that he was ever close to Dai or Taka, yes. But he visibly admired Tatsuki a lot and loved their rivalry, you probably can't say they were close but there was something pretty intense going on there (well, they're both pretty intense so ... :laugh:). Like, they were eachother's favourite rival. And Yuzu visibily loves Nobu and Akiko dearly, and they both love him back, and were very good senpais for him back then. I don't know if he knows Mao that well, but she always seemed pretty warm toward him too.
As for Mura and Kanako, the simple fact that all team Japan chose POTO programs in 2014-2015, with matching costumes, shows that they are pretty close, I think. Mura and Yuzu share several passions, as it was said earlier, Yuzu skated to Kanako's favourite song (Bieber) on her birthday when they were teens. And Nobu stated on TV that the skaters he was the closest to were Yuzu, Akiko and Kanako, so I wouldn't be surprised the four of them got along very well. And there's always Ryuji and Keiji...
You don't have to hang out with people to be close to them - you just have to love them and stay in contact. As far as we know, Yuzu could be chatting online with his friends dayly - didn't he tell that he was playing online games with his japanese friends ? Perhaps there are some skaters among them, as it seems that skaters are generally fond of videogames :)

Yuzu strikes me as someone very warm and sociable, but who likes having time alone, especially if he wants to perform to his maximum potential. I'm a bit like this too. It doesn't mean he doesn't have close friends in TJ, imho... he likes his privacy and we know through Nobu that he asks his friends to respect it (and they do, thankfully !).


ETA : sorry if it sounds so gossipy, I'm too obsessed by this kid, obviously. It's his private life... I just wanted to say that I think he is well loved in TJ, and was already when he was younger.
 
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So beautiful vid, so many feels :cry:

There was one at GPF, right? Iirc only Yuzu and Javi participated (Shoma was hiding :laugh:). It was the last time we saw CoD landed... :slink:

So that's I don't remember it- I didn't watch it, I was working :p Thanks God I remebered to take free days for WC :hap57: Thank you, I'll try to find video.

There are certain things that don´t add up there, but never mind! :)
I'll translate that later, I'm at work, unfortunately!

Thank you in advance, I'll be waiting for your translation :)
 
I don't feel that he was ever close to Dai or Taka, yes. But he visibly admired Tatsuki a lot and loved their rivalry, you probably can't say they were close but there was something pretty intense going on there (well, they're both pretty intense so ... :laugh:). Like, they were eachother's favourite rival. And Yuzu visibily loves Nobu and Akiko dearly, and they both love him back, and were very good senpais for him back then. I don't know if he knows Mao that well, but she always seemed pretty warm toward him too.
As for Mura and Kanako, the simple fact that all team Japan chose POTO programs in 2014-2015, with matching costumes, shows that they are pretty close, I think. Mura and Yuzu share several passions, as it was said earlier, Yuzu skated to Kananko's favourite song on her birthday when they were teens, and Nobu stated on TV that the skaters he was the closest to were Yuzu, Akiko and Kanako, so I wouldn't be surprised the four of them got along very well. And there's always Ryuji and Keiji...
You don't have to hang out with people to be close to them - you just have to love them and stay in contact. As far as we know, Yuzu could be chatting online with his friends every day - didn't he tell that he was playing games with his japanese friends ? Perhaps there are some skaters among them, as it seems that skaters are generally fond of videogames :)

Yuzu strikes me as someone very sociable, but who likes having time alone. I'm a bit like this too. It doesn't mean he doesn't have close friends in TJ, imho...


ETA : sorry if it sounds so gossipy, I'm too obsessed by this kid, obviously. It's his private life... I just wanted to say that I think he is well loved in TJ, and was already when he was younger.

I agree with you, I also think that he and Mura like each other too? I was only refering to the situation from the post I was replying, I shouldn't use Team Japan, it has to wide meaning, sorry :hslap:
 
This was an article written in response to Yuzu's Jounetsu Tairiku documentary that aired right after Worlds last year. If you haven't yet, you can watch it subbed here thanks to nonchan1023. Although that was almost a year ago, it seems timely since we're just about to roll into Worlds and recently another documentary of his came out. I thought it was an interesting take on Yuzuru Hanyu vs. documentaries :laugh2: since I have always found Yuzu to be extraordinarily consistent (and true) in tone and message whenever he comes out from ninja mode. The author had written another piece in 2015 discussing Yuzu's mediagenicity alongside other athletes. Also a fun read which I can get to after Worlds if there's any interest :)

ETA: Added some links to the relevant parts in the documentary along the text, for easy reference

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Why Yuzuru Hanyu failed to fit in the "emotional grammar" of Jounetsu Tairiku (Morita Hiroyuki, journalist)
2016.04.14 Gendai Business
Original source: http://gendai.ismedia.jp/articles/-/48414

Eng-sub (thanks to nonchan1023) of Yuzuru's Jounetsu Tairiku program: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x465qy3

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"The ever-popular documentary series Jounetsu Tairiku shall feature figure skater, Yuzuru Hanyu, for its 900th broadcast anniversary──"

The moment I learned about this news, I went to set my TV recorder. I wasn’t an avid fan of the series itself, but since they picked Hanyu, I couldn’t afford not to check it out. <Yuzuru Hanyu x Jounetsu Tairiku> seemed a perfect combination. However, after watching the program, I thought something was off. “Something is different from the usual Jounetsu Tairiku…” The thought came up just as the credits began to roll. “Wha─ that’s the end?” And the sense that something was out of place remained. What happened in this episode?

A stirring impression and a nagging sense of incongruity from Jounetsu Tairiku

I guess Jounetsu Tairiku needs no further introduction. A documentary series that brings out the raw, untold sides of its notable subjects by closely following their day-to-day. 900 episodes, including the current one, have been broadcast since the start of its run in 1998; you can say it is a “program of national significance".

Surely, there is also no need to explain why such a program chose to feature Yuzuru Hanyu as its protagonist for its 900th broadcast anniversary. Hanyu is unquestionably a "national hero".

In the program, audiences at an ice show headlined by Hanyu in Osaka were asked to explain his charm. That Hanyu was popular on a national level was clear from their answers.

"Hanyu-kun, so cute"
“And very honest"
“His interview responses are amazing"
“Doesn’t seem to be human anymore"
“He’s younger than me, but he’s so dependable, as if he carries Japan in his skates"

From the interviews, we can see that Hanyu has gained broad support across generations and sex. Yuzuru Hanyu × Jounetsu Tairiku - a superb combination with matching national levels of popularity.

Even so, why did the program leave such a huge sense of incongruity? To confirm, I reviewed it once more.

(“I feel alone, really.”)

The selling point of Jounetsu Tairiku has always been “total, close coverage". This time as well, the program seemed to have this properly covered.

The program’s cameras, as is tradition, followed Hanyu into places barred away from media. An ice show waiting room in Osaka, at a private car ride, in his hotel room in Boston where the World Championships were held… (Even though the program claimed to have obtained footage from an “unprecedented 3-month-long coverage”, they were in fact only allowed coverage twice, once during the ice show in Osaka in January and again beginning in late March from his training in Toronto to the World Championships in Boston). (Oh ninja zuzu…)

From a cinematographer’s perspective, they did manage to capture rarely seen, “bare-faced” moments of Hanyu. A Hanyu who yelled “kusso—! (damn it)” in frustration during a rough practice. A Hanyu taking off his jacket at the ice show so he could lend it to his junior, who was only wearing a T-shirt. A Hanyu who messed around with Nobunari Oda in the waiting room and threw his head back, roaring with laughter.

And of course, there were plenty of wonderful comments from Hanyu. In my previous article, I analyzed how Hanyu was a "mediagenic" athlete. "Mediagenic" means “presenting an attractive image in the media” in English, and Hanyu's ability to handle the media exceeds that of all athletes up till this point.

What someone of his caliber says on Jounetsu Tairiku couldn’t possibly fail to fascinate. For example, in the following scenario:

"Well, I do feel lonely, truthfully. Since the surrounding environment really affects my mental and physical state, without blocking it off, I wouldn’t be able to deliver the kind of performance I have in mind. So in some sense, you could say that I’d rather be left alone."

- Are you a strong person?

“I am weak, very very weak. It’s because I am weak, that I can’t perform to my max without blocking off (my surroundings). If I were strong, I would be myself regardless of what was being said around me, and what environment I was in. I guess the reason why I cannot is probably because I am weak."

- How do you overcome painful or tough times?

"Ah, I don't aim to overcome them anymore. Painful things are painful, I just admit it. If I no longer want to do something because it's painful, I can just quit. I think it’s good that way."

Did they manage to portray a “raw, unexpected side” of him?

The words of Hanyu touched and left a deep impression in the hearts of fans who saw the program. You'll understand this much if you search for "Hanyu Jounetsu Tairiku" on Twitter.

"I thought Hanyu-san's comments and way of life on Jounetsu Tairiku were really cool (admirable). And, I am beyond touched to see that even in such tough situations (referring to Boston), he still responded to media with a firm smile on his face."

“I saw Jounetsu Tairiku, and although there were many unexpected scenes, it was really nice. Hanyu marching ahead and objectively observing himself—even as he was calling himself weak—the sight of that filled my eyes with tears."

When I revisit the program and start to write down notes like this, I can sense that Hanyu had said truly amazing things. But it was also the case that, when I saw the program for the first time, nothing reverberated.

While I was wondering why, I came to read this tweet:

"The content in Jounetsu Tairiku felt surprisingly bland, perhaps because Hanyu-san himself was too deep/profound. On many different levels."

The tweet gave me a hint, and I finally realized why things felt out of place with this particular episode. Probably, I felt that the Hanyu captured in film, despite days of close coverage, was no different from the Hanyu I’ve always seen in the media.

The production team followed Hanyu quite closely, and Hanyu may have been showing his real side. But since he was so mediagenic, I didn’t feel like I was shown Hanyu's “unexpected real side” through these “close coverages”.

His answer to the question, “how do you overcome hard times,” quoted earlier in the article, is a good example. To say something like "I don’t aim to overcome these feelings" is quite an intelligent, clear-headed response that shows great thinking and eloquence. But it didn't reverberate in my mind, because Hanyu simply rattled off his answer without missing a beat. So, at least for me, it didn’t quite stick.

Had his reaction been to pause and let his gaze wander while he was lost in thought, and only then, with some deliberation, “…I guess I no longer fight to overcome those feelings,” my impression would probably have been different.

However, Hanyu doesn’t do that. He doesn’t need to do such a thing because he’s too capable at responding to media. Lines that would have taken a normal person some dawdling and deliberation to get out, Hanyu rattles off smoothly in a calm, composed manner.

As it were, a lot of what he talks about in Jounetsu Tairiku can be found in the so-called “Hanyu Vocabulary”. Such as positioning himself as a “weakling”, that’s a big theme to Hanyu. In the past, he has stated that “to be weak, is to have the potential of becoming stronger. Being able to say ‘I am weak’ means there’s a sense of wanting to become stronger. If I were to think ‘I am strong,' that means I’ve reached the end."

In what felt like an instant, the 24-minute program came to an end, while I was still savoring what he said. What remained was a slightly complicated feeling of disappointment.

Did mediagenic Yuzuru Hanyu dismantle the formula of Jounetsu Tairiku?

The malfunctioning of an "emotional grammar"

There is a kind of “emotional grammar" in documentaries. For example, documentaries dealing with athletes often follow the pattern of "glory → frustration → effort → restitution".

It can be said that this episode of Jounetsu Tairiku adhered to the same flow. After winning the gold medal at the Olympic Games, Hanyu rode on the wave of momentum to rake in world record scores one after another. However, at the recent World Championships, after an almost insurmountable lead in the short program, he made repeated mistakes at the free skates, resulting in an unexpected second place finish. Glory → frustration, check.

In addition, Hanyu acknowledged that he had been suffering from intense pain on his left leg in the program. It was a fact that had yet to be revealed to the media at the time of recording. So the narration went, "We heard about this in secret, that he is feeling intense pain in his left foot."

However, after finishing second in the World Championships, the final scene where he was interviewed at his hotel room in Boston begins with the following narration, "Hanyu's sight is already set on the next season.” “Not to say the result was this or that, I want to raise my ideals, the things I want to do, and my skating even more,” said Hanyu.

The narrator concludes the program with the following, “A 21 years old continuing to evolve. Before his eyes, uncharted territories stretch out into the afar.” A sense of effort → restitution.

However, isn’t Jounetsu Tairiku’s most distinguishable “emotional grammar” and also its selling point, the full-coverage and intimate take on its subjects? The concept of the series as described on the official website of Mainichi Broadcasting, which produces the show, reads, "Jounetsu Tairiku interviews and takes an intimate look into the lives of successful people active in each field. It is a documentary series for introducing these peoples to everyone.” Quite easy to understand.

(The usual Hanyu)

Unfortunately, this attempt of “emotional grammar” did not work on its subject this time.

After all, they were up against Yuzuru Hanyu. Regardless of how close Jounetsu Tairiku got, the Hanyu who spoke in front of their cameras remained the usual Hanyu you’d see on television. The “behind the scenes” and “subject’s unexpected, raw side” that we’d come to expect from Jounetsu Tairiku… such impressions wore extremely thin in Hanyu’s (and only Hanyu’s) episode.

Why? Ultimately, because he scores too high in mediagenicity. Yuzuru Hanyu has long lived “within media". Even with Jounetsu Tairiku’s 360 coverage, we simply got to see him the way he always has been in front of the TV cameras.

Perhaps, some of their staff might have noticed—even though we have been following that Hanyu around, why did it feel somewhat different than usual…? Even so, it wasn't really the producer’s fault. Since their target was Yuzuru Hanyu.

Mediagenic athlete, Yuzuru Hanyu, has broken down the “emotional grammar” in this nationally popular documentary program—I was left with this impression after 24 minutes.
 
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I agree with you, I also think that he and Mura like each other too? I was only refering to the situation from the post I was replying, I shouldn't use Team Japan, it has to wide meaning, sorry :hslap:

Haha, yes, sorry, I quoted you but in fact it was more a pretext for me to formulate my thoughts about the other posts - this talk occured when I was sleeping but I had strong feelings about them when I read them this morning :)
 
The Eurosport schedule for the Netherlands is depressing. Looks like no live men's SP coverage (or any live SP coverage, for that matter), and I'm pretty sure no FS live coverage, either. I also have a Eurosport Player subscription, but that's of not use to me because I'll be in Helsinki. So no way to catch any live commentary on the streams, and since they don't get archived... Meh. I hope other Eurosports are more interested in live figure skating (meaning talking about Hanyu) this world championship!
 
Sorry, can't quote :(

about my post Yuzu vs Team Japan, if I think about it again maybe it's my ignorance, coz I barely know them before early this year, so don't mind my pos guys, it seem I have to seek deeper about Yuzu relathionship with his peers, so next time no longer any misunderstanding :)
 
The Eurosport schedule for the Netherlands is depressing. Looks like no live men's SP coverage (or any live SP coverage, for that matter), and I'm pretty sure no FS live coverage, either. I also have a Eurosport Player subscription, but that's of not use to me because I'll be in Helsinki. So no way to catch any live commentary on the streams, and since they don't get archived... Meh. I hope other Eurosports are more interested in live figure skating (meaning talking about Hanyu) this world championship!

I programmed my TIVO box today because I'm leaving tomorrow, since I'm going to spend a few days in Latvia and Estonia before heading back to Helsinki for Worlds. To my surprise, I think Eurosport UK is showing most of Worlds, including mens SP, LP and gala --- that's :eeking: --- considering how truncated their coverage has been this year.

Although I'll be watching live, I'll probably have my eyes half closed before each of Yuzu's jumps, since that's what I do when I watch live on TV. I know that's silly, but it's just too stressful!
 
I programmed my TIVO box today because I'm leaving tomorrow, since I'm going to spend a few days in Latvia and Estonia before heading back to Helsinki for Worlds. To my surprise, I think Eurosport UK is showing most of Worlds, including mens SP, LP and gala --- that's :eeking: --- considering how truncated their coverage has been this year.

Although I'll be watching live, I'll probably have my eyes half closed before each of Yuzu's jumps, since that's what I do when I watch live on TV. I know that's silly, but it's just too stressful!

I think Eurosport France is covering all the competition live, but not the gala. Yay, more Pechalat commentaries... Shoma fans are going to be delighted \o/ Yuzu fans a bit less

Sadly, french TV (with our "favourite" three crazy commentators) will only broadcast the ice dance free program (because of papadakis-cizeron, I guess) and the gala. I hope Morgan/Cipres and Laurine will do well, if only because perhaps then there will be a better figure skating coverage on french TV next year... at least I hope... We used to be SO passionate about figure skating, what happened ?


ETA : NooOOOOO Eurosport is not covering the mens short program live !!!! Only pre-recorded !!!
That means I'll have to make do with an awful low-def stream :(. I'm sad :(. The sparkles don't look the same in low definition. Purple pants even less
 
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Gladiolusc, I adore you a bit more every day. If you go on feeding us with other amazing translations, I might consider proposing <3

Hehe :ghug: I enjoy reading other's writing about Yuzu/ Yuzu sharing his own thoughts a lot, the more in-depth, the better. :hap85: And I think it's fun to discuss as well. So I'll work hard for the proposal :luv17::laugh2:
 
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