2017 GP Skate Canada Ladies SP

[NoNameFace]

I guarantee no-one will be as fabulous as Queen Kailani.

, I agree, she sure has some special spark around her presence, and when she's skating/performing - I can see a true joy in that experience for her

 

[xeyra]

, I agree, she sure has some special spark around her presence, and when she's skating/performing - I can see a true joy in that experience for her

And her MR program is fabulous.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Well, for me, Maria is a safe bet on the podium. Don't forget she was 2nd and 3rd in last year GP events, qualified for the GP Final, and she is in a better shape this year. Her jumps are visibly better in the most recent senior B event. Her programs put me to sleep, but her consistency should get her on the podium, probably after Kaetlyn.

I agree! I think people are really writing her off...
Although her programs don't put me to sleep

I guarantee no-one will be as fabulous as Queen Kailani.

Heheh I knew that was you before I looked at the username

 

[Miss Ice]

SC is always a gimmee for Osmond as long as Medvedeva isn't on the entry list. She has an adoring audience on her side ready for her standing ovation. That never fails to sway the judges.

That sounds like something archaic someone would say under the 6.0 system. This sport shouldn't be about swaying, but actual skating quality. :sarcasm:

 

[viennaskater]

And her MR program is fabulous.

I'm pleased I'm not the only one looking forward to seeing Kailani again, after her fabulous performance at Nebelhorn! :hap36:

Also pleased to see Anna Pogorilaya - I loved her LP last season, she skated it brilliantly throughout and was so sad for her at the Worlds when it went wrong.:sad4:

 

[kevinVchicago]

I'm pleased I'm not the only one looking forward to seeing Kailani again, after her fabulous performance at Nebelhorn! :hap36:

She was so good! Unforgettable performance at Nebelhorn.

 

[kevinVchicago]

I was really surprised to see this year that Laurine had started working with Kori Ade and Rohene Ward. Her collaboration with Katia Gentelet and Fabian Bourzat brought great career-best at the Trophee de France and a 5th place finish at Europeans this year. Also, she seemed to have a really nice rapport with Katia (who also has great fashion sense :agree2.

Something seemed to go haywire after Europeans though, and the falls became scarier and more frequent. This year's programs aren't as good. Marilyn is a sort of equivalent to Grease, but the SP is a huge step down from last year's. Also, the costume she wore at Lombardia for the SP kind of felt like a bad trip. She's had rough outings at Lombardia and French Masters. She finished behind Mae Berenice for the first time a while at French Masters (by a point or so). I'll be looking to see if Kori can do something to get her moving in the right direction.

The biggest problem is her inability to go clean in the FS. I don't think she's ever managed. So, I'll hope for two clean programs here. The world saw how amazing Laurine can be last year with her gorgeous, inventive and emotional SP and her pure-joy FS with the costume change that everybody was talking about. She's capable of so many things in terms of her performance. Maybe Kori can help her put the pieces into the right order and smooth out the rough edges. If it all came together, she could definitely be top 10 in the world. In any case, I am rooting for Laurine to get on the podium at Skate Canada and prove to the world that they are underestimating her! Bon courage, Laurine!

 

[Osmond4gold]

SC is always a gimmee for Osmond as long as Medvedeva isn't on the entry list. She has an adoring audience on her side ready for her standing ovation. That never fails to sway the judges.

As much as I hate to agree with a prolific Mirai basher, Chuckm is 100% correct here.

I think you need to look at the results from previous SC competitions. Kaetlyn has won the event once, in 2012. Matter of fact, Kaetlyn finished as far back as 11th in 2015. So much for the 'gimmee theory'. Also, both Ashley and Anna P. have previously won this event.

I am with Andromache, that the field is stacked and anything can happen.

 

[Tulipstar]

I have no idea where to put Ashley Wagner in the prediction game. The earlier Grand Prix's are always so hard to predict, because there is no guideline if one doesn't know the form of a skater. Ashley has the goods to win this or be end up 7th or something. This is hard.

Yeah, she is also the one I'm most curious about. Well next to Anna, but with her there's a lot of trepidation, while with Ashley it's a happier kind of excitedness.

Wish Karen and Ashley were not in the same GPs twice, though. They could block each other from getting to the GPF if Ashley is better here and then Karen in the second.

 

[Tulipstar]

And yay for Canada being behind in time zones: I will be well back from work when this airs.

 

[Violet Bliss]

I think you need to look at the results from previous SC competitions. Kaetlyn has won the event once, in 2012. Matter of fact, Kaetlyn finished as far back as 11th in 2015. So much for the 'gimmee theory'. Also, both Ashley and Anna P. have previously won this event.

I am with Andromache, that the field is stacked and anything can happen.

:agree:

I am with you and Andromache.

 

[qwertyskates]

But who says she's portraying a character from the film? Maybe she just likes the music? Not all programs have to be character driven. When they're not, skaters usually have dig deeper to portray a sentiment/emotion/whatever.

I hope not, because the protagonist is annoying and nowhere at the level of Mao's dancer Li in terms of her tribulations, breakthrough, redemption and talent. The problem is this will be her Olympic program, and she is taking a big risk (unwisely imho) by swapping Carmen for this. Her rivals are doing "bigger" stories, eg AK, Miss Saigon.

 

[chuckm]

I think you need to look at the results from previous SC competitions. Kaetlyn has won the event once, in 2012. Matter of fact, Kaetlyn finished as far back as 11th in 2015. So much for the 'gimmee theory'. Also, both Ashley and Anna P. have previously won this event.

I am with Andromache, that the field is stacked and anything can happen.

2012 SC - first GP - won
2013 SC - withdrew after SP; Lipnitskaia won. (also withdrew from CoR due to injury)
2014 SC - did not compete due to injury - Pogorilaya won
2015 SC - just returning from injury - finished 11th - Wagner won
2016 SC - 2nd to Medvedeva

Kaetlyn was struggling with injuries and/or recuperation from 2013-2015. When she was NOT injured or NOT competing against Medvedeva, she won.

 

[Violet Bliss]

2012 SC - first GP - won
2013 SC - withdrew after SP; Lipnitskaia won. (also withdrew from CoR due to injury)
2014 SC - did not compete due to injury - Pogorilaya won
2015 SC - just returning from injury - finished 11th - Wagner won
2016 SC - 2nd to Medvedeva

Kaetlyn was struggling with injuries and/or recuperation from 2013-2015. When she was NOT injured or NOT competing against Medvedeva, she won.

That means she is really very good, but not invincible, when she is healthy. And when she's not healthy and good, she loses. That's how it is, as it should be.

 

[demarinis5]

That means she is really very good, but not invincible, when she is healthy. And when she's not healthy and good, she loses. That's how it is, as it should be.

I agree. Why all the shade against Osmond. She has the tech and the talent to win gold. If she outskates everyone and wins the gold, good for her. It is not like the girl has no talent she is the
reigning World Silver medalist.

That said she has some good competition, Ladies field is amazing. Good luck to all of the Ladies!

 

[b-man]

I agree. Why all the shade against Osmond. She has the tech and the talent to win gold. If she outskates everyone and wins the gold, good for her. It is not like the girl has no talent she is the
reigning World Silver medalist.

That said she has some good competition, Ladies field is amazing. Good luck to all of the Ladies!

No shade against Osmond from me, I think she's among top 5 in the world, a terrific skater. My shade, having observed in person a couple of Skate Canada competitions and part of the London Worlds; is more against "home cooking". I saw 3 fall Chan win Worlds over a relatively clean D10, a very sloppy Chan win a close decision over a sloppy Hanyu at SC last year, or Vittue/moir returning from a 2 year layoff to edge Chock/Bates by less than 1 point last year. Whenever the competition was close, the Canadian always seemed to edge the competition. I expect no difference in the SC ladies this year. If Osmond is close to Pogo, Maria, or Wagner, I expect Osmond to come out on top.

 

[Osmond4gold]

Diven the history of SC

2012 SC - first GP - won
2013 SC - withdrew after SP; Lipnitskaia won. (also withdrew from CoR due to injury)
2014 SC - did not compete due to injury - Pogorilaya won
2015 SC - just returning from injury - finished 11th - Wagner won
2016 SC - 2nd to Medvedeva

Kaetlyn was struggling with injuries and/or recuperation from 2013-2015. When she was NOT injured or NOT competing against Medvedeva, she won.

So, what I am seeing in your post is if she is on and healthy as per 2012/2016, she should do okay, but if not, SC will and has judged her accordingly, based not only in 2015 (11 out of 12 placement), but also 2013, 4th after SP, b/f withdrawing due injury. Where was Canadian H'inflation, when we needed it the most? Dang!

As a result, she'll need to earn it like every other previous winner, as there has not been a repeat at SC since the days of Joannie. So much for 'a gimmee', given this 'field of dreams'.

 

[Violet Bliss]

No shade against Osmond from me, I think she's among top 5 in the world, a terrific skater. My shade, having observed in person a couple of Skate Canada competitions and part of the London Worlds; is more against "home cooking". I saw 3 fall Chan win Worlds over a relatively clean D10, a very sloppy Chan win a close decision over a sloppy Hanyu at SC last year, or Vittue/moir returning from a 2 year layoff to edge Chock/Bates by less than 1 point last year. Whenever the competition was close, the Canadian always seemed to edge the competition. I expect no difference in the SC ladies this year. If Osmond is close to Pogo, Maria, or Wagner, I expect Osmond to come out on top.

These have been debated over and over so let's not rehash but stay on topic and see what this event will bring before any new debate, OK?

 

[KMK0902]

No shade against Osmond from me, I think she's among top 5 in the world, a terrific skater. My shade, having observed in person a couple of Skate Canada competitions and part of the London Worlds; is more against "home cooking". I saw 3 fall Chan win Worlds over a relatively clean D10, a very sloppy Chan win a close decision over a sloppy Hanyu at SC last year, or Vittue/moir returning from a 2 year layoff to edge Chock/Bates by less than 1 point last year. Whenever the competition was close, the Canadian always seemed to edge the competition. I expect no difference in the SC ladies this year. If Osmond is close to Pogo, Maria, or Wagner, I expect Osmond to come out on top.

I would say that it's the same all over the world.... not just in Canada

Let's hope all skaters skate clean and that we do not have to argue after about who was unjustly favoured and held up.

 

[Violet Bliss]

I would say that it's the same all over the world.... not just in Canada

Let's hope all skaters skate clean and that we do not have to argue after about who was unjustly favoured and held up.

What you mean we don't have to? Of course we have to! No matter what happens. :agree2: