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2018 Olympic Figure Skating Mens FS

I am over the moon with this podium, and actually any particular order between the three would have been fine with me. I am glad that the medalists are three skaters who connect the technical and artistic side of skating the best, and don't just have a huge BV due to a big number of (questionably executed) quads.

Those criticizing Shoma's lack of tears or overall jumping around and making a fuss about the medal - he is simply a person that is calm by nature. His happiness clearly showed when the results came! He was also a bit confused because it's the freaking Olympics and he couldn't believe he actually won a medal. It's a surreal moment.

Bravo Yuzu, bravo Shoma, and bravo Javi - I couldn't be more proud and happy :hap93:
 
Maybe I'm misguided, but I see all these athletes pushing quads after quads while sacrificing the artistry, and it looks awkward, jerky, stilted, stunted, abrupt. It takes out the beauty of the figure (athlete) skating/dancing the program. The artistry is what sets figure skating apart from the rest of the winter sports. That shouldn't be compromise for some snowboard-ish excitement.

I agree. I think there should be a limit on the # of quads, maybe 2 or 3 so we can still get balanced artistic programs

That could work. But then we get jumps/quads from the Olympic Top Four done so smoothly in their programs and without sacrificing artistry of the choreography. So I'm scratching my head, maybe its the choreography for those stunted quads that needs to be work upon? or its the figure (athlete) that needs more work to open up that artistic side?

I'm sure Dick Button heard the same argument the first year he started doing triples.

Some things. Never change.

In a era in which and where figure skating was at its infancy compared as to what it is now and place? Dick Button could not have sacrifice artistry for his triples.

And as I stated above, we got figure skaters with jumps/quads in their programs without sacrificing the artistry, so why do we see these stunted jumps/quads in uncharacteristically un-artistic looking programs? Is it the choreography for those quads or is it the figure (athlete) who needs more work?
 
Well, yeah, but that's a good thing. The pressure on him was nuts and it probably would have crushed most people.

Out of curiosity what do people feel Nathan should have scored? Should he have made the Top 10?

This was an extremely well scored event. Nathan's BV makes him very competitive even when he is not getting high GOE's. He didn't get impressive GOE's but he completed a much more difficult long program than the other skaters (even Shoma--who is closest to him in BV but was also rather messy and did not get very high GOE's). He jumped the 4lz, 4flip, 4sal, 4toe. No other skate does 4 different quads in the long. He also got levels on step sequences and spins, deservedly. He deserved the place he got. People just like to complain after events. His PCS scores were fair. I don't see how people think he was overscored.
 
Let put it this way:

If Hanyu were not so badly injured and be healthy and did well both programs he might have scored 335 or 340.

We have a series of what if, what if, what if...

Hanyu is still injured. He hasn't completely healed and still skated with artistry and technical prowess.

And those coming at introvert Shoma for not smiling, he was in shock. Actually, he wanted to be like his idol Hanyu so he was aiming for gold.
 
If any of you have the Eurosport Player, there are victory ceremonies coming up right now, so I'm pretty sure that we get to see the Men's there too!!!
 
They are already touting Vincent Zhou as the future star in 2022.

Who is?

That's not gonna happen if his skating stays as uninspired, emotionless, stiff, cold, distant and empty as it is right now. And even when he does complete his quads it seems like he got lucky when you consider how inconsistent they are. He is the best example of everything that's wrong with the base value and GOE system regarding the quads.
 
Maybe I'm misguided, but I see all these athletes pushing quads after quads while sacrificing the artistry, and it looks awkward, jerky, stilted, stunted, abrupt. It takes out the beauty of the figure (athlete) skating/dancing the program. The artistry is what sets figure skating apart from the rest of the winter sports. That shouldn't be compromise for some snowboard-ish excitement.

I agree. I think there should be a limit on the # of quads, maybe 2 or 3 so we can still get balanced artistic programs

If falls, URs, prerotation, shaky landings, etc are penalised enough, I think skaters would be naturally discouraged to overload the programs with quads, if they cannot execute them well. But let those who are daring try! It is a sport, after all, and in a beautiful big jump there is as much aesthetic pleasure as in any other part of the program.
 
Hanyu is still injured. He hasn't completely healed and still skated with artistry and technical prowess.
yes, Hanyu is still injured, his ankle might still trouble him. He came and deliver and I saw some people said they "do not respect him for going for an easier layout". They pretty much forget he went for 5 quads and almost killed his leg?

I saw the one who "liked" that post and be like: Well, it's good that there are many other people who respect Hanyu, not the kind who downplay his tremedous effort.
 
Great event and I'm really happy with the result, but a bit of ranting is what we're here for, so: what a terrible PCS handling by the judges. Anyone who completed quads/skated in the last groups seemed to automatically receive an immense PCS bonus. It was basically a technical competition, since the PCS differences were so small that they didn't play any role, whereas they should have. 85 to Jin and Aliev? Seriously?! :furious:
 
I just hope this isn't career ending injuiry for Hanyu. Unfortunately I have that feeling he may force himself to go to Worlds for last time and retire after it. :(

Oh, that's not a good thought. :noshake: Do you think it's that bad? I don't know much about the earlier part of his career...has he never been injured before?
 
Oh, that's not a good thought. :noshake: Do you think it's that bad? I don't know much about the earlier part of his career...has he never been injured before?
He has been quite badly injured several times and he has recuperated from those injuries, but each injury is different and each new one on top of a nagging older injury can be career ending. This time his ankle was already almost completely okay from what I understood, but he seems to have aggravated the problem again here. So I don't know how it's going to be.
 
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