2018 Olympic Figure Skating Mens FS

[Logirl]

Javi is so wonderful. That three way hug he brought them into. It is Everything.

 

[colormyworld240]

That is so true! And his superior athleticism would have been more evident back to back with Hanyu, Shoma and Javi and their lack of?

What superior athleticism? Nathan may have all those quads, but Yuzuru and Javi's quads are much better. Shoma on the other hand... not so much

 

[cheerio2]

so because the jump is hard, even with long set up it still should get +3 GOE? I don't get this logic.

Yes. Until someone else comes along who can show that it is actually humanly possible to do a quad Lutz as well as Boyang with a bunch of transitions, then they should give +3 GOE to Boyang's Lutz.

ETA: Also, how do you explain the fact that Yuna Kim often got +3 GOEs for her 3L-3T, despite that combo also not having transitions? And she rightly deserved them, because no one in the world could do that difficult combo as well as she could, much less with a bunch of transitions.

 

[Haikush]

nah, yuzuru gifted nathan the fp by being injured.

lol

 

[Haikush]

Yes, agree. There definitely should be a limit on the # of quads. Are we headed to 5-6 quad programs now? Not the diretion the sport should go in my opinion. Also why have PCS if you jump quads you get them anyway

 

[Panpie]

There's a reason Orser is so successful in this regard - his skaters look like they are in the zone and no one had more pressure than Hanyu.

I don't really know what happened with Nathan and don't have any idea how he felt, but can we take a minute to consider the pressure that was on Yuzuru Hanyu? I live in the United States, in an area of the country where basketball is the most popular winter sport. I doubt that many people in the United States even knew who Nathan was before the last few weeks or even days. Nathan had enormous pressure on him, to be sure, but nothing like what Hanyu has endured every day with astonishing grace for years. Yuzuru has been covered by media since he was a child. He flies back and forth from Japan to Canada for training, endorsement obligations, skating shows, documentaries, etc. both on and off season. His fans follow him around the world. He has to have body guards with him at competitions. He doesn't have anything like a "normal" social life. He's had the eyes and hopes of a nation upon him for years and has delivered stunning performances again and again despite that pressure. I don't know how Yuzuru does it and cannot even begin to express my admiration for him.

 

[ChefAnt]

Yes, agree. There definitely should be a limit on the # of quads. Are we headed to 5-6 quad programs now? Not the diretion the sport should go in my opinion. Also why have PCS if you jump quads you get them anyway

Here is a radical idea. Instead of capping the number of quads, they can change it to a 3 2 1 system. You can jump as many double as you want, you can repeat two triples(in combination), and you cannot repeat a quad. Gives incentive to try all quads but limits how many you can do at the same time. Also with a system like that, and seven jumping passes, keeps the triple axel relevant unless someone starts introducing quad axel.

 

[ChefAnt]

I don't really know what happened with Nathan and don't have any idea how he felt, but can we take a minute to consider the pressure that was on Yuzuru Hanyu? I live in the United States, in an area of the country where basketball is the most popular winter sport. I doubt that many people in the United States even knew who Nathan was before the last few weeks or even days. Nathan had enormous pressure on him, to be sure, but nothing like what Hanyu has endured every day with astonishing grace for years. Yuzuru has been covered by media since he was a child. He flies back and forth from Japan to Canada for training, endorsement obligations, skating shows, documentaries, etc. both on and off season. His fans follow him around the world. He has to have body guards with him at competitions. He doesn't have anything like a "normal" social life. He's had the eyes and hopes of a nation upon him for years and has delivered stunning performances again and again despite that pressure. I don't know how Yuzuru does it and cannot even begin to express my admiration for him.

Hanyu is like a superhero. It also speaks volume on Orser as a coach. He's done this for three consecutive olympic cycle where he both coached and protected his athletes to Olympic glory along with the enormous pressure they faced. Both with Kim and with Hanyu. Simply fascinating.

 

[charlotte14]

I don't really know what happened with Nathan and don't have any idea how he felt, but can we take a minute to consider the pressure that was on Yuzuru Hanyu? I live in the United States, in an area of the country where basketball is the most popular winter sport. I doubt that many people in the United States even knew who Nathan was before the last few weeks or even days. Nathan had enormous pressure on him, to be sure, but nothing like what Hanyu has endured every day with astonishing grace for years. Yuzuru has been covered by media since he was a child. He flies back and forth from Japan to Canada for training, endorsement obligations, skating shows, documentaries, etc. both on and off season. His fans follow him around the world. He has to have body guards with him at competitions. He doesn't have anything like a "normal" social life. He's had the eyes and hopes of a nation upon him for years and has delivered stunning performances again and again despite that pressure. I don't know how Yuzuru does it and cannot even begin to express my admiration for him.

I guess US skating fans do not know how huge Yuzuru is in Japan. Like literally every single Japanese friend I have known of him. And only a small and funny action from Yuzuru gets broadcasted on National tivi, making headlines everywhere. They line up for streets just to get newspaper and magazine with his face on the cover. His story, his comments... are quoted in national texbooks (texbook for English, music, history, sport...) I don't wish for the pressure he has to suffer, ON ANYONE AT ALL.

 

[Panpie]

Hanyu is like a superhero. It also speaks volume on Orser as a coach. He's done this for three consecutive olympic cycle where he both coached and protected his athletes to Olympic glory along with the enormous pressure they faced. Both with Kim and with Hanyu. Simply fascinating.

Yes, yes. Credit to Brian Orser and what he does for his athletes.

 

[TT_Fin]

Now I have seen them all. Nathan, nice jumping performance, but all the other elements just okay. Some judge seems to have given 9 of the interruption of the music. Javier should have 20 compared to that. It is litlle bit confusing, nice to see success of the jumps, but I did not find anything else special in the program. Just my personal opinion. I enjoyed Vincent's skate more than Nathan's. I liked there were many clean programs on the first two groups. Spins are underestimated, especially men who have good spins and are good performances, suffer. I think skating is FIGURE skating, not just jumping. But I know that many other people disagree with me, but probably some also agree.

 

[Mista Ekko]

So, is it fair to say Nathan Chen GIFTED Yuzuru Hanyu this GOLD??? A very valid point I think.

The things people convince themselves to believe...

 

[bekalc]

Totally impressed with Hanyu but I wonder if the injury allowed him to take some of the pressure of himself. I.e. expectation wise. Not from fans but knowing I am not going to be my best not going to be able to out jump folks. I may not have great endurance so I will just grit out best I can come what may. I think everyone in Japan knew he was injured too and he would have been treated like warrior regardless of result.

Don't get me wrong don't wish what he endured this season on anyone.

 

[ssminnow]

Javier was robbed of at least silver. Maybe even gold.

 

[kasha6]

Wow Johnny was rude to Cha after his skate - I think his presentation has matured leaps and bounds

Johnny is rude very frequently; he needs to go

 

[charlotte14]

Javier was robbed of at least silver. Maybe even gold.

Javier's executed BV = 84.11
Hanyu's executed BV = 92.59

Not to mention Hanyu also had higher BV in SP. Robbed of a gold? Nice try.

 

[ssminnow]

Javier's executed BV = 84.11
Hanyu's executed BV = 92.59

Not to mention Hanyu also had higher BV in SP. Robbed of a gold? Nice try.

Right, because skaters are judged only on executed BV and nothing else.

 

[charlotte14]

Right, because skaters are judged only on executed BV and nothing else.

Right because Javier is BEHIND not only Hanyu but other guys in 1 foot skating: https://youtu.be/3qlpTMObg9A
and transitions: https://youtu.be/wNKwfeuGUN8

 

[moonvine]

Johnny is rude very frequently; he needs to go

Replace him with Adam!!!!!! And replace Tara with someone who doesn't scream. Tanith Belbin would be great. I'm tempted to start a petition to NBC.

I hope the children at the hospitals in South Korea really love Pooh.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Nathan, had his SP been even remotely clean, maybe with 1 fall, have won the GM here?

After watching some of the other events with judged scoring, I'm actually grateful for how they try very hard to explain how the judging works. A lot of the events have used terms I have no idea what they mean and don't try to explain.

My 73 year old "I love that little Spaniard" mother is super excited Javi won bronze.

 

[CeCiLiA]

the idea is to make a show, and that the other athletes of the delegation of each country that can't attend each competition are there celebrating their countrymen.