After nationals it was announced that Konstantinova and Tuktamysheva go to Universiade. Alternates 1. Medvedeva 2. Sotskova. I doubt that will change...
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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After nationals it was announced that Konstantinova and Tuktamysheva go to Universiade. Alternates 1. Medvedeva 2. Sotskova. I doubt that will change...
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Evgenia finally skated a clean short program, though her jumps still don't look secure. Her upper body movement this season looks much stiffer and her overall smooth quality is not there. I can tell she was totally into her performance, but it does not have the same impact aesthetically as her previous programs. Maybe it's the lack of transition, or lack of movement to movement coaching or both.
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Not necessarily true. Generally at the elite level skaters choreograph a level 4 sequence but to hit every turn and edge properly and all the other requirements for StSq4 is not always achievable. Like any jump or spin it doesn't mean the skater is incapable, but they just might not have done so on the day or they are inconsistent in executing the sufficient features.
Indeed a Step sequence is a good time to showcase skating skills and a level 4 is usually indicative of someone with a decent level of skating skills, however it doesn't necessarily mean they have better skating skills in general compared to someone who might have much better edges/speed but happened to turn onto the wrong edge or didn't have enough body movements (must be 1/3 of the pattern) in the sequence and only get a level 3.
https://www.isu.org/figure-skating/rules/sandp-handbooks-faq/17594-tp-handbook-singles-2018-19/file (see page 3)
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I think "unnatural" is the right word, even though she was trying very hard to sell the program. Artistically, she lost her brand. Hope she will have Shae-Lynn or a Russian choreographer next season.
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Your words:
I didn't comment on her 2As, or 3Ts, or anything else either, before finally commenting on CanadianSkaterGuy's suspicions (on Medvedeva's 3Lo, and +3T). Funny how you apparently saw those somewhere, too. The only thing I did was to post the two videos, and ask people to use the same standards on each, because then it would be revealed that Med's own jumps could be called UR. I am not even remotely close to being sure why you're dragging Zhou repeatedly into this conversation: his irrelevance in the Russian Ladies' field need not be emphasised, although it seems he's struck such a chord that you're imagining things being said about him on others' parts.
Stasya and Zhenya will probably go if Liza gets the worlds spot.
I don't think that is likely to happen at this point with what 'RusFed' has been saying about Zhenya and worlds & the scores today but let's see!
That would be 3 competitions in 3 different cities for Liza who is recovering uhhh.
Let's define 10% as a huge increase. Out of the five skaters, two of them are borderline 10% increases from 2A to 3A, whereas two are essentially unchanged and one has a huge decrease. Sure, we need more data, but it's at least plausible that quads are jumped at similar heights to triples.
I would argue that anyone attempting a quad jumps their triples sufficiently high that their quad can be jumped at a similar height.
But yes, a 79 cm 1A is absolutely ridiculous. Quads are jumped for less than this. I'd love to see the rotation on that.
Agreed that she hasn't found her style yet, but what was her artistic brand before? Pantomiming and tano-ing?
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I think it could be "lyrical". Her performance was overall soft and smooth before.
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I am deeply suspicious of those numbers, to be frank (maybe they were extremely delayed axels, because even the 2A and 3A are just as large
). And just from a visual basis, I'd say it's not true. 
I agree that there are some who try to squeeze in rotations as soon as they leave the ice (and hence my previous rant about how the ones who jump and then rotate should be rewarded for higher quality in that pre-rotation thread), and this would detract from their ability to spring. But the spring and the force required to spring for a quad, even done this way, would be greater than in a triple.
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Am I imagining things or can you actually hear Anastasiia snap her fingers triumphantly right after her 3Flip?
https://youtu.be/3R3kIAD63XE?t=1m23s
https://youtu.be/3R3kIAD63XE?t=1m23s
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I'm not going to argue about scores but Evgenia has transitions in and out of every jump in Tosca
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Feels like a coincidence.
I don’t mnie if it’s just me but I’m glad Zhenya chose this season to experiment and not one in the future when it’s going to be really chaotic. As a big fan, both her SP and FP are not my cup of tea and I did like her last programs more. Would LOVE for her to work with someone like Shar Lynn Norne next season! But honestly, had she not tried to switch up something this season, people would’ve been complaining how her programs are
all the same style (mind you, a lot of people were complaining her programs in the past all looked the same) or that she’s a one sided skater. We can’t all have everything at once, I hope she finds something that is perfect for her soon tho.
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What I'm telling you is that it looked forward to me. If I were on the panel and I was presented the same angle as the protocol stream I would call it << without question. But I'm not on the panel and our streams are not their technology. Due to this I am open to the possibility that it was in fact a < a not <<, but it was not all the way around. I don't know how I could be more clear.
You were the one who accused people of "hating" on Stanislava. Like we are biased and only say she is UR because we want to bring her down. Vincent is relevant because it was the same exact argument that was made on the 4CC thread when people called out his URs. People are "biased", we only see things because we "want to see them" when in fact we are seeing them because they are blatantly there. I double checked and I did confuse you with another poster, I apologize for that. None the less you are being just as accusatory here regarding Stanislava and using Evgenia to do so. So yes I am drawing comparisons between the two situations and some of the arguments that were made on that thread to demonstrate why it might be possible to give Evgenia the benefit of the doubt while still calling Stanislava.
I already conceded she was short on the 2A so your point is taken. I maintain my opinion that Stanislava's was worse, as is my right.
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Reflections short program:
What a great feast it was. I was sitting with my
and enjoying every minute!
Guliakova was on fire today! I was almost thinking she would try a 3A, but maybe that comes in the long? She scored 2 points better than in Nationals.
I love Leonova. You go girl! She has been a bit lucky this year. Getting a GP spot after Radionova WD (though it was fair, she was next on the SB list) and therefore qualified for Nationals. And she managed to just squeeze in here. She has such great artistry and I really felt for her not doing a clean program. It is highly likely we won't see Leonova next year at GP or at RusNats.:sad4:
Talalaikina - I like this girl! She has something. I was worried about her 3L but she nailed it. Pity about the comb, but she held on, kept that left foot off and managed to get the 2T in the end. She scored +3 compared to Nationals, hopefully she can improve again tomorrow.
How wonderful it was to finally see a clean Medvedeva skate!! I'm not her biggest fan but she was really great today. That must have boosted her confidence a lot. She's the one to beat tomorrow.
Tuktamysheva - always been a fave of mine. But that 3A just isn't there. In fact at this point she was losing points on it. Downgraded, fall, all that was left was 2 points. She would have scored better with a clean 2A.
Nugumanova - now I'm thinking, with a song called "Smile" you are kinda jinxing it. And it doesn't help when you cry all the time in the KC. Nugu has clearly nerves that don't hold up in competition. She's a wonderful skater but here her nerves got the best of her.
Vasilieva - she has proven to be quite a consistent skater. But I don't know, she gives me nothing...
Konstantinova - I will never understand the hate against her here on this forum. She, again, had a great skate, and no, I can't see those URs. Am I blind? Don't think so...
Tarusina - consistent as ever. Love her, but wasn't she just a little bit off today??
Gubanova - Love her. Best skate of the night. Underscored PCS-wise. If she throws in a gazillion quads tomorrow she will probably end up fourth anyway. That is the reality I'm afraid. It's already decided that this competition is not about her...
Sakhanovich - I had high hopes but she delivered only a few. I fear this competition won't give her any GP spots next year - again.
Gracheva - Never seen this girl before. And she started with a 3F3L !! Impressive, but the rest was not that good.
All in all I am amazed yet again about the standard in Russian Ladies Figure Skating. ALL these girls are fab. I will be following this closely tomorrow again with my
What a great feast it was. I was sitting with my
and enjoying every minute!Guliakova was on fire today! I was almost thinking she would try a 3A, but maybe that comes in the long? She scored 2 points better than in Nationals.
I love Leonova. You go girl! She has been a bit lucky this year. Getting a GP spot after Radionova WD (though it was fair, she was next on the SB list) and therefore qualified for Nationals. And she managed to just squeeze in here. She has such great artistry and I really felt for her not doing a clean program. It is highly likely we won't see Leonova next year at GP or at RusNats.:sad4:
Talalaikina - I like this girl! She has something. I was worried about her 3L but she nailed it. Pity about the comb, but she held on, kept that left foot off and managed to get the 2T in the end. She scored +3 compared to Nationals, hopefully she can improve again tomorrow.
How wonderful it was to finally see a clean Medvedeva skate!! I'm not her biggest fan but she was really great today. That must have boosted her confidence a lot. She's the one to beat tomorrow.
Tuktamysheva - always been a fave of mine. But that 3A just isn't there. In fact at this point she was losing points on it. Downgraded, fall, all that was left was 2 points. She would have scored better with a clean 2A.
Nugumanova - now I'm thinking, with a song called "Smile" you are kinda jinxing it. And it doesn't help when you cry all the time in the KC. Nugu has clearly nerves that don't hold up in competition. She's a wonderful skater but here her nerves got the best of her.
Vasilieva - she has proven to be quite a consistent skater. But I don't know, she gives me nothing...
Konstantinova - I will never understand the hate against her here on this forum. She, again, had a great skate, and no, I can't see those URs. Am I blind? Don't think so...
Tarusina - consistent as ever. Love her, but wasn't she just a little bit off today??
Gubanova - Love her. Best skate of the night. Underscored PCS-wise. If she throws in a gazillion quads tomorrow she will probably end up fourth anyway. That is the reality I'm afraid. It's already decided that this competition is not about her...
Sakhanovich - I had high hopes but she delivered only a few. I fear this competition won't give her any GP spots next year - again.
Gracheva - Never seen this girl before. And she started with a 3F3L !! Impressive, but the rest was not that good.
All in all I am amazed yet again about the standard in Russian Ladies Figure Skating. ALL these girls are fab. I will be following this closely tomorrow again with my
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Tara Lipinski's skating at 15 was barely better than this. Tara's skating has not aged well, when looking back twenty or so years.
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I feel like the difference with Davydov's girls is that they screw them on PCS so it all evens out any way. Viktoria killed it. I am beyond impressed with her consistency this year as compared to last. Honestly I would have had both her and Anna over Gulyakova even with the call (and I believe even the international judges tend to call them both !, not e. Also Anna didn't do a lutz today).
I mean no disrespect to Gulyakova but she didn't do it for me today. Nice height on the jumps and all but I found her rather slow and the intepretation lacking. Either her score needs to be lower or Davydov's girls higher, IMO. I get that Anna doesn't have the highest jumps and Vika has shallow flips (and lutzes?). I do not understand why both are egregiously underscored on PCS nearly all the time. They are at least as good if not better than Gulyakova, Tarakanova, Gubanova, and Tukt on some days (today).
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I can confirm that theory with James/Cipres. Seeing the skate live takes your comprehension to a whole new level.
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