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No nemesis and no jinxing from me.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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No nemesis and no jinxing from me.
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I personally think that gaining 3 spots for next year is never a given thing for any nation. Look at how Japan was down to 2 spots after 2017 worlds or how Russia barely kept its 3 spots in Juniors when both Thurskaya and Fedichkina were forced to withdraw. Bad performances and injuries do happen. We can only hope that everyone on the team stays healthy and performs to the best of their ability. Calling doom and gloom as well as claiming otherwise is not going to determine anything or affect how skaters will perform.
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she had a little stepout after 3S in her JGP event. beside that she really does everything clean lol
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https://youtu.be/Y62HiS82cVI?t=97
It's a messy landing for sure but she hung on. I wonder how managed to rotate it fully without falling, the jump axis was totally off.
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Well said Baron. True
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We’re not trying to compete with Russia for the number of fans. Canada simply doesn’t care about figure skating as a whole compared to Russia, so of course Osmond doesn’t have as many fans as Alina or Evgenia. And it’s not like Osmond’s story isn’t compelling (coming back from injury and whatnot), but still the Canadian sports media isn’t following her every move the way Russian or Japanese media follow their skaters, given figure skating is immensely more popular in those countries and they (literally and figuratively) invest way more in their skaters.
The point being made is that people are making very lofty assumptions about the Russians doing well, which is fine, but to drag other Canadian skaters into it and jeer that we will likely lose spots is pretty hilarious considering the reigning World Champion is Canadian and surely many of these people at the time had jeered that Osmond had no shot to win until they were proven wrong with a win by Osmond and by a comfortable margin at that.
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Still upset for Liza, but the Australian SBS had their highlights show for the Euros (we're so late 
) and I was reminded how awesomely Sofia performed! 
I'm looking forward to seeing her at Worlds and have my fingers crossed!
Liza's 3As in the twitter/Instagram posts are awesome as anything! Go Empress!
There's also the Universiade on soon and Junior Worlds...busy time for figure skating fans.
) and I was reminded how awesomely Sofia performed! I'm looking forward to seeing her at Worlds and have my fingers crossed!Liza's 3As in the twitter/Instagram posts are awesome as anything! Go Empress!
There's also the Universiade on soon and Junior Worlds...busy time for figure skating fans.
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A double toe has base value of 1.3, so a 3A2T would worth 9.3, which is 0.26 points higher than what a 3A+2A+seq is worth (9.04). Under current rules there is no point doing 3A3T if she's planning to repeat 3A and 3Lz.
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So true!!! I never take predictions too seriously myself nor do I think past results are necessarily a great indicator of future events. I mean it’s fun to guess who will do what at events but skaters in the top 10 are really good and a few errors can really set you back. Nothing should be taken for granted. Uncertainty and some unpredictability actually make things more interesting. That’s a very good thing for fans of the sport. When the talent level is so high that a few errors can really hurt your placement then that speaks to the quality of everyone competing.
This is what actually makes Russian skating so entertaining and has created so many passionate fans. Even if Russia has a bad day and next year they somehow only have two spots it isn’t going to change the fact that some of the best skating on the planet will come from and be found inside of Russia. I certainly hope they can earn three spots because it would be a real shame to have a medal threat sitting at home. To me...that wouldn’t be great for the sport but that’s just how it is. In Hockey it would be like Tampa going out in the first round. The sport will survive even if the best team oof’d it up in the playoffs.
I think it’s unlikely that they will oof it up though and I can’t imagine anyone who has a reasonable grasp of the state of things in Russia and the various storylines would root against them. They need those three spots to accomadate their depth. Even Voldemort knew that every drop of magical blood is a terrible waste
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So true!!! I never take predictions too seriously myself nor do I think past results are necessarily a great indicator of future events. I mean it’s fun to guess who will do what at events but skaters in the top 10 are really good and a few errors can really set you back. Nothing should be taken for granted. Uncertainty and some unpredictability actually make things more interesting. That’s a very good thing for fans of the sport. When the talent level is so high that a few errors can really hurt your placement then that speaks to the quality of everyone competing.
This is what actually makes Russian skating so entertaining and has created so many passionate fans. Even if Russia has a bad day and next year they somehow only have two spots it isn’t going to change the fact that some of the best skating on the planet will come from and be found inside of Russia. I certainly hope they can earn three spots because it would be a real shame to have a medal threat sitting at home. To me...that wouldn’t be great for the sport but that’s just how it is. In Hockey it would be like Tampa going out in the first round. The sport will survive even if the best team oof’d it up in the playoffs.
I think it’s unlikely that they will oof it up though and I can’t imagine anyone who has a reasonable grasp of the state of things in Russia and the various storylines would root against them. They need those three spots to accomadate their depth. Even Voldemort knew that every drop of magical blood is a terrible waste
Only Japan is really guarnteed three spots. Russia and the US have reasonable shots though ironically if they could cancel each other out. I think it is assume Canada is down to two or onespots. I am glad Liza is ambitious for the future but we will see talkis cheap.
What's up with still arguing about the 3 spots?
I think Liza clearly deserved to go and it was rigged somehow.
But the 3 spots we would also get with Zhenya easily, that is no reason Don't talk so negative about russian ladies. We always do good, we had 1+2 at the Olympics.
The Winter Universiade is starting. I'm still mad we wont even see Liza skate there after the didn't get a spot for worlds...
I think Liza clearly deserved to go and it was rigged somehow.
But the 3 spots we would also get with Zhenya easily, that is no reason
Don't talk so negative about russian ladies. We always do good, we had 1+2 at the Olympics. The Winter Universiade is starting. I'm still mad we wont even see Liza skate there after the didn't get a spot for worlds...
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Especially since this is the Russian Ladies Thread.
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Does Viktoria Vasilieva go senior next season? I also was just introduced to Sinitsina - what a star! I think she turns senior in 2 years?
The question is did Liza deserve it more than Eguenia or equally?What's up with still arguing about the 3 spots?
I think Liza clearly deserved to go and it was rigged somehow.
But the 3 spots we would also get with Zhenya easily, that is no reason
The Winter Universiade is starting. I'm still mad we wont even see Liza skate there after the didn't get a spot for worlds...
Or better to ask: who those three among four more deserves to go?
Medvedeva, Samodurova, Tuktamisheva, Zagitova?
Zagitova is the current OGM.
Samodurova won the last EC.
Medvedeva is two times WC.
Tuktamisheva is one time WC with 3A.
Past achievements don't count.
And the win of Med against Tuktik, well, none of the girls was perfect during the Cup of Russia, their results were pretty similar, who knows how it will be decided by international judges. The fact is for MED it was the best skate so far this season and for the Tuktik one of the worst competitions comming from an illness.
I think for the future Russia should come with some transparent rule, how the team spots would be distributed. It should not be based only on one competitions like Russian Nationals or some mysterious rusfed voting. It should be clear for the skater what they need to achieve to get those spots.
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Interview with Kamilla Valieva
https://sport24.ru/news/other/2019-...ne-zagitovoy-i-olimpiade-foto-video-instagram
The gist:
She is from Kazan. She started figure skating at 3.5 and came to Moscow at the age of 6. She lives with her mother who goes with her to all competitions. Her icon is Alina. She also likes how Kostornaya jumps. Her goal is Olympics 2022.
Interesting that just a while ago Russian ladies named Caro (sometimes Yuna) as their icon and inspiration. Then I remember that Yulia and Zhenya were named. And now Alina who was a junior just 2 seasons ago. Time flies very fast in ladies figure skating now putting to archives big names in no time at all...
https://sport24.ru/news/other/2019-...ne-zagitovoy-i-olimpiade-foto-video-instagram
The gist:
She is from Kazan. She started figure skating at 3.5 and came to Moscow at the age of 6. She lives with her mother who goes with her to all competitions. Her icon is Alina. She also likes how Kostornaya jumps. Her goal is Olympics 2022.
Interesting that just a while ago Russian ladies named Caro (sometimes Yuna) as their icon and inspiration. Then I remember that Yulia and Zhenya were named. And now Alina who was a junior just 2 seasons ago. Time flies very fast in ladies figure skating now putting to archives big names in no time at all...
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She can, but I doubt she will. She's very likely to get JGPs but very unlikely to get even 1 senior GP. Sinitsyna will be a junior again this upcoming year by eligibility.
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I'll update this post later with more
Here are all the skaters that I think have a chance to make their junior debut next season:
Kamila Valieva
Kamila just moved to Eteri this past year and already the improvements are tremendous. Her consistency is much improved - although she often makes one mistake in her free skate - and her jumps look much more stable. She's got jaw-dropping spins, including a candle spin, and "Lipnitskaya" Biellmann. Her performance quality is sharp, fierce, and focused, and her SP in particular is like watching contemporary dance, at least in my opinion
. Like most of these upcoming girls, she can do 3Lz-3T, and puts it in both programs. However, due to her layout (3Lz-2T combo as well as 3F-2T-2Lo combo) she only has 1 2A (but 7 triples). She's been injured a fair bit this year and missed Volkov Memorial, Junior Nationals, and the Cup Final. Expected JGP spots: 2
Maya Kromykh
Maya also just moved to Eteri this past year and also has improved her consistency amazingly well. She's also upgraded her tech content: at the beginning of the season, she repeated 3Lo and 3T, and now she repeats 3Lz and 3Lo. She does a 3Lz-3T in her SP but only a 3Lz-2T in her FS (other combos are 3Lo-1Eu-3S and 2A-3T). She's very tall and uses her lines very elegantly, and she really commands the ice when she performs. She has a layback like Kamila's as well as a beautiful I-spin. She won the Cup Final but didn't make junior nationals after only competing at one cup stage (placed second there).
Expected JGP spots: 2
Daria Usacheva
Like Kamila and Maya, Daria also just moved to Eteri and also has incredible spins. Her consistency is the weakest of the 3, and she often misses in her SP but rebounds in the FS. She's working on fixing her flutz, and it's gotten a lot better this season - it used to be an awful "e" and now it's a pretty solid "!". That being said, she's doing 3F-3T where others do 3Lz-3T in place of that. Now they're placing 3Lz in her SP instead of 3Lo (for the first jump in combo) so it's getting better enough to be in her SP. She was 16th after the SP at junior nationals out of 18 but placing 8th in the FS led her to place 10th ahead of Kanysheva and Shabotova, for example.
Expected JGP spots: 2 if the rest of the season is good
Viktoria Safonova
Next year is not Viktoria's first junior eligible year but it's the first year she has a really good chance to get a JGP, especially as Russia gets an extra spot from hosting. She's coached by Olga Matveeva and placed 8th at the 2019 Russian Junior Nationals. She's got gorgeous and huge jumps, including a beautiful 3Lz-3T, and she's done a 3Lz-3Lo once before as well. She made her international debut at the junior Ice Star, where she won the gold medal. Her consistency is usually quite good as well.
Expected JGP spots: 0-2 (if she gets 1, she has a high chance of getting a 2nd if others falter)
Anna Frolova
Anna is coached by Svetlana Panova and has also earned above 200 points at her cup stages this year. She can do easy 3Lz-3T combinations. She won the bronze medal at the Cup Final this year as well as at the Younger Age championships last year. She was also 9th at this year's junior nationals. She has an interesting air position on her jumps, but it doesn't stop her from landing them beautifully. Her programs are always unique and suited to her powerful and dynamic skating as well.
Expected JGP spots: 0-1.
Anastasia Shabotova
Anastasia is also coached by Svetlana Panova. She's got beautiful rippon jumps, including a wonderful 3Lz-3T. Her two cup stages were excellent and she scored above 190 at both. Unfortunately, the rest of her season hasn't been as impressive - scoring around 160 to 180 - and her placements at junior nationals (14th) and the cup final (8th) leave her unlikely to get JGP spots. But she could, especially if Tarakanova or Vasilieva move up.
Expected JGP spots: 0-1.
Anastasia Kostyuk and Maria Smirnova are also wonderful but I doubt they'll get any spots
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