MM - You can take your time in listing names but the bottom line is ALL athletes have flexibility in every sport youj can name off the top of you head.
...Poker, croquet, billiards (well I have seen some "flexy" shots), NASCAR....
That is what most posters are talking about and ignoring the fact that to do other elements takes not only flexibility but also agility.
I beg to differ on that opinion. I don't think anyone is forgetting anything, just focusing on the "most obvious." for discussion. And I do note those "forgoten things" in parts of this thread being brought up.
It doesn't take much to stick your leg up in the air if you have good edges or a solid flat. (The edge is what skating is about.)
Joe, this is meant with respect, but it sounds like you have not done this.???BECAUSE you have, I guess I don't see your point??? And if it takes more difficulty (balance wise, the only concern is ability to do this while skating using edges) the higher the leg is lifted.....
Yes we have clearly defined in this thread and others that for it to be FS it must involve skating / use of the blade in some way that exhibits skill with it, then the other elements come into play.
And just trying to show respect for the direction of the thread - although I think it has stayed on topic marvelously - I am not exactly "jumping up and down with glee about the changes to the idea of "Skating as an acrobatic/contorionist event" but I think that is a little bit of an exaggeration regardless. "I will always have memories, there will always be shows, etc... but I would rather see FS flourish then die off due to my selfish notion it should stay the way I want it. And I don't think the skaters are doing anything wrong to bring it on.
I don't agree that men are an after though either. I think the after thought goes to the ladies personally. That is who most here think about after, the guys are most thought about during skating - and they are usually the first thought. I don't know how popular it would be to talk about baseball on a forum???
But it is not anything that interest me, but I watch the game, am excited, enjoyed it, saw great levels of "sports" show. But "do I want to talk about a bunch of guys for a lengthy period of time?" Does anyone really
Not as much as I would if they were a team of women. Sorry but I don't get guys being nearly as interesting as women. Some women do, and some talk about guys more. But women and there lives seems to be a better topic for most. Also the thought of how America was introduced to Skating ~ a woman.
To me ladies have to face more adversity, expose themselves more, more vulnerability needs to be overcome. There are a lot of things guys can just do and not face the same hurdles women do - psychologically included, and these lady FSers rise to the top of this adversity and make accomplishment after enduring more so than the men IMO. Pairs is an obvious example.
I do think there are interesting men out there, but take for example Evan. Raising some "hub bub" lately but not to much talk
continues about him. The topic is interesting, compelling at times, but a guy, so interest is lost more quickly.??? Even with lady posters. Johnny has more topics that COULD be associated as feminine, but still he does not sustain the interest that ladies do. But he does sustain conversation longer as I can see.
btw, fyi or whatever, just thought about it. The main reason I "willfully" only (but have thought to add men) wish the ladies Happy Birthday is because women are GENERALLY more appreciative than men. Most guys I have come across don't care to much about birthdays, or even if you think of them on this day. Guys "typical" response, "thanks, cool." Ladies "typical" response is "that is nice of you to remember, take the time, thank you." and that is usually followed with a return nice comment about you / me.
"We will always have Paris."
But those moments will last forever in my heart, and if she wants to, MANY MANY MANY Pro performances to come in the future. I also think she could obtain more flexibility, and maybe a 3x3 to keep her in there, but I am a sapp for that lady, so bias my opinion is too much.
