2019-20 Russian Men's figure skating

[medoroa]

I like Uno but he's evidently not in top form, so if Aliev skates clean while Uno mucks up, I can see Aliev winning TES. Total score, maybe not so much (but it is Rostelecom...), but Aliev's Nepela score is neck to neck with Uno's Finlandia score.

Samarin is a dark horse. Sometimes he actually manages to land most of his jumps.

With Zhou out of the GP series, Aliev and Samarin have HUGE chances to do well at Rostelecom. I don't want to jinx anything and I don't want this to mess them up mentally, but it's going to be exciting!

 

[NAOTMAA]

Judging from the marks Samarin got in France for his performances looks like the Russian fed. are living and dying with him. HARDCORE!

I don't think any of the other men have a chance unless Samarin bombs badly and they skate clean

 

[flanker]

There is a one problem, any russian senior didn't deliver two clean programs yet in the competition this season. They have either very good SP and not so good FS or the other way around. Yet I dare to say there are improvements finally, at least with Samarin and Aliev. I hope this will stand. Junioer also improved a lot this season.

 

[NAOTMAA]

There is a one problem, any russian senior didn't deliver two clean programs yet in the competition this season. They have either very good SP and not so good FS or the other way around. Yet I dare to say there are improvements finally, at least with Samarin and Aliev. I hope this will stand. Junioer also improved a lot this season.

Samarin scored over 165 points despite two falls and a total of four elements with negative goe. You really think any other current Russian man (I don't count Kolyada since he isn't skating) can achieve marks like that with a performance like Samarin delivered? Aliev certainly wouldn't and he's certainly superior to Samarin the in the PCS department. It's clear the Russian fed. are backing Samarin and throwing all their weight behind him. Look at those PCS marks, crazy!

 

[gmyers]

Samarin scored over 165 points despite two falls and a total of four elements with negative goe. You really think any other current Russian man (I don't count Kolyada since he isn't skating) can achieve marks like that with a performance like Samarin delivered? Aliev certainly wouldn't and he's certainly superior to Samarin the in the PCS department. It's clear the Russian fed. are backing Samarin and throwing all their weight behind him. Look at those PCS marks, crazy!

Imagine his PCs if he could sell The accepted forms of artistry! It’s like if he did North American proper or French indulgent weirdness but he isn’t - he is not doing what he’s supposed to be doing

 

[anonymoose_au]

Good to see Sergei at IdF , he's my current fave! Although he won't be going to GPF this time which is sad Maybe he can make it to Euros?

Then there's Anton S, I read about the FS costume and thought "Oh it won't be that bad", but it absolutely was...like DomShab levels of offensive...I really hope he changes it, I mean...what was his team thinking.

I always forget about Samarin! He did very well at IdF though! That FS costume is scary, but hey whatever works for him.

 

[Tolstoj]

Judging from the marks Samarin got in France for his performances looks like the Russian fed. are living and dying with him. HARDCORE!

I don't think any of the other men have a chance unless Samarin bombs badly and they skate clean

Yeah i don't like how suddenly he always end up getting higher PCS than other skaters like even Aliev or in that case Aymoz, despite his programs are completely empty.

There is some choreography in the short program, but the long is very much skating with a music in the background: no choreography, no transitions into the jumps, it feels like a jumping excercise and nothing else.

Not take away from him what he does technically, his quads are all beautiful.

Samarin scored over 165 points despite two falls and a total of four elements with negative goe. You really think any other current Russian man (I don't count Kolyada since he isn't skating) can achieve marks like that with a performance like Samarin delivered? Aliev certainly wouldn't and he's certainly superior to Samarin the in the PCS department. It's clear the Russian fed. are backing Samarin and throwing all their weight behind him. Look at those PCS marks, crazy!

If Aliev skates clean he should absolutely outscore Samarin, no question for me.

 

[elektra blue]

Good to see Sergei at IdF , he's my current fave! Although he won't be going to GPF this time which is sad Maybe he can make it to Euros?

Then there's Anton S, I read about the FS costume and thought "Oh it won't be that bad", but it absolutely was...like DomShab levels of offensive...I really hope he changes it, I mean...what was his team thinking.

I always forget about Samarin! He did very well at IdF though! That FS costume is scary, but hey whatever works for him.

it's russian men we're talking about everything can happen but i wouldn't hold my breath

 

[aname]

Update on Kolyada via his fanclub's social media: https://vk.com/wall-24618099_50638

Summary in English: https://twitter.com/choromatsu333/status/1191763850321899520

Misha’s coach said today that the surgery went well, Misha is okay, he’s feeling better. there’s a month of rehabilitation ahead (he can’t train during this) so they’re not making any plans for the season, but she’s thanking everyone for their support

 

[MintGreen]

I think Samarin started receiving huge PCS marks since GP of last season, as both Kolyada and Aliev were struggling back then. This year, the trend continues, particularly with the absence of Kolyada. The Russian Fed definitely banks on him as the front man. Not try to take anything away from him though. He looks a hard working person to me.

With all those factors considered, I hope Aliev can get the PCS he deserves, which should be higher (by a lot) by any measurement.

Yeah i don't like how suddenly he always end up getting higher PCS than other skaters like even Aliev or in that case Aymoz, despite his programs are completely empty.

There is some choreography in the short program, but the long is very much skating with a music in the background: no choreography, no transitions into the jumps, it feels like a jumping excercise and nothing else.

Not take away from him what he does technically, his quads are all beautiful.



If Aliev skates clean he should absolutely outscore Samarin, no question for me.

 

[Tutto]

Update on Kolyada via his fanclub's social media: https://vk.com/wall-24618099_50638

Summary in English: https://twitter.com/choromatsu333/status/1191763850321899520

Many thanks for posting it here. Just to clarify what his coach said was 'they will be making plans for the season only in a month [i.e. when required time for convalescence is over]

 

[thatbeatingheart]

Yeah i don't like how suddenly he always end up getting higher PCS than other skaters like even Aliev or in that case Aymoz, despite his programs are completely empty.

There is some choreography in the short program, but the long is very much skating with a music in the background: no choreography, no transitions into the jumps, it feels like a jumping excercise and nothing else.

Not take away from him what he does technically, his quads are all beautiful.

I recently realized I have a soft spot for Samarin so now his FS angers me a little. I do like the "darker" type of music for him but there's barely anything happening in the program. Give the poor man something to work with! In his SP I can see that he wants to. I've already catched me complaining about his PCS and I don't want this to become a regular thing, especially because I believe he's able to pull off performances that are deserving of the scores he gets.

 

[QueenOfTheRoad]

Update on Kolyada via his fanclub's social media: https://vk.com/wall-24618099_50638

Summary in English: https://twitter.com/choromatsu333/status/1191763850321899520

And update from the man himself: https://www.instagram.com/p/B4iM57hoQvq/ (with a cute pic as well)

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Judging from the marks Samarin got in France for his performances looks like the Russian fed. are living and dying with him. HARDCORE!

I don't think any of the other men have a chance unless Samarin bombs badly and they skate clean

I'm okay with this. His skating is kinda ratchet, but his jumps are clearly on point and it's a quad-man's world right now. Good for him for upping his fire power. He clearly has his sights set on more than just the national title.

 

[RemyRose]

Last Challenger event for earning a SB. Lots of subs for this one!

Golden Spin http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03109530.htm

Main
Aliev, Danielian, Ignatov
Subs
Kolyada, Lazukin, Murashov, Savosin, Rukhin, Yablokov

I kinda expect Aliev to be replaced but we will see come Saturday!

Interesting, Samoilov is yet to be assigned any Challenger/Senior B, not even a sub

ETA: just a reminder, Warsaw Cup is this week so good luck to Murashov, Gumennik and Mozalev.

Rukhin/Lutfullin were to be in Tallinn but they were removed. They should be at the last Cup event next week with Samoilov, Danielian, Petrov and Sviridenko.

 

[coldblueeyes]

I think we just saw the main Russian team for the season competing at COR!

I wouldn't mind seeing Makar on top with the program he put out today, but he has other stuff to work on, for sure. Samarin's PCS is

 

[nussnacker]

I think we just saw the main Russian team for the season competing at COR!

I wouldn't mind seeing Makar on top with the program he put out today, but he has other stuff to work on, for sure. Samarin's PCS is

I love the guy, Samarin's awesome, but come one, Rusfed's doing Aliev wrong on this one.

 

[coldblueeyes]

I love the guy, Samarin's awesome, but come one, Rusfed's doing Aliev wrong on this one.

It's all about the quads.

 

[Tolstoj]

It's all about the quads.

Yeah they're sending the message that if you put more quads in your programs, you'll get more points even on components no matter what even with falls.

It's a bit sad and wrong.

 

[starla16]

Aliev needs to get no more than silver to be in the GPF mix
Ignatov if he medals here could still be in the mix too for NHK