Kate Finster and Balazs Nagy's SP was also removed from the Pairs video after a short time, so it isn't as if Gracie's being singled out for erasure! I did see Gracie's SP briefly, but the tape stopped and gapped and was terrible, and I never saw the jumps except the last two, that she (deliberately?) singled. F/N didn't submit a FS, but there wasn't anything wrong with the SP video, so who knows what happened.She scored about 51 in the SP and 85 in the LP I believe. But shortly after the videos and results were posted, they were taken down and reuploaded without her performances or scores. It’s really bizarre.
Did anyone watch Lindsay Thorngren, the 2020 Junior champ at the ISP Points Challenge? She has amazing consistency. She landed all of her jumps, including 2 3-3s, 1 being in the second half of the program. I’m a little worried about her jump technique since it looks like she might be prone to UR but she’s definitely flying under the radar and will be one to watch
Thank you! Good to feel I'm not the only one who saw what I did! (I looked for an "applause" smilie but haven't found it yet)I was probably primed by skylark's well-stated take on Mariah's LP, but whether I was or not, I LOVED it. The music cuts really worked to me to tell a story -- be it a romantic one, or one about personal striving and growth and milestones and your inner view of yourself vs being judged (so fitting for anyone competing in skating!). I was blown away. LOVE IT. If you find the music cuts jarring, please consider watching it again a time or two and really focus on what Mariah is presenting. It's a bold choice to use the music that way -- completely WORKS WORKS WORKS for me. I found it really moving and a true work of art -- and that's at such an early stage in the season! wow.
I'm happy for Gracie that she is approaching her career with a healthier, more mature mindset. While I think she enjoys competing and loves to skate, it seems that she's lost the fire needed to get back to the top in US skating. I thought covid might have been an equalizer that might put someone like Gracie on par with skaters ahead of her since no one has been training, but it doesn't seem like she's made up any ground. I'd much prefer to see her fall attempting triples than popping jumps into singles or doubles, because at least that would show she's fighting.I did see Gracie's SP briefly, but the tape stopped and gapped and was terrible, and I never saw the jumps except the last two, that she (deliberately?) singled.
Have you listened to Gracie's interview with Scott Hamilton from a few months ago? She talked about her standing ovation at 2020 nationals as a sort of overpowering experience. She said at first it didn't feel right because she hadn't done very well (Gracie's words, meaning the jumps I think), and then almost immediately she realized that what was happening was something much bigger than herself; people were inspired by her spirit. I see what you mean about preferring to see her fighting, but maybe she's finding other reasons to compete. I don't know, I'm just speculating.I'm happy for Gracie that she is approaching her career with a healthier, more mature mindset. While I think she enjoys competing and loves to skate, it seems that she's lost the fire needed to get back to the top in US skating. I thought covid might have been an equalizer that might put someone like Gracie on par with skaters ahead of her since no one has been training, but it doesn't seem like she's made up any ground. I'd much prefer to see her fall attempting triples than popping jumps into singles or doubles, because at least that would show she's fighting.
Actually she landed many jumps-in the first part of the program. The SP I couldn't make heads or tails of. But the free skate she landed at least 3 triples in the beginning of the program. Then she had to keep resting and would skate down the ice and do singles. Right now there just isn't the conditioning necessary to do a long program.Was there any report on Gracie's Jumps? I realize the scores are low but, did her programs have potential?
But your question was about potential-and no. We have Bradie, Mariah, Audrey (maybe Ting and/or Hannah), Amber Glenn and Alysa Liu. There is zero chance Gracie might break into the top of the order. Gracie and Courtney could both compete in the Adult competitions though-sort of a 'Masters" for figure skating.Was there any report on Gracie's Jumps? I realize the scores are low but, did her programs have potential?
Do you know what music she was skating to in sp and lpActually she landed many jumps-in the first part of the program. The SP I couldn't make heads or tails of. But the free skate she landed at least 3 triples in the beginning of the program. Then she had to keep resting and would skate down the ice and do singles. Right now there just isn't the conditioning necessary to do a long program.
But your question was about potential-and no. We have Bradie, Mariah, Audrey (maybe Ting and/or Hannah), Amber Glenn and Alysa Liu. There is zero chance Gracie might break into the top of the order. Gracie and Courtney could both compete in the Adult competitions though-sort of a 'Masters" for figure skating.
Do you know what music she was skating to in sp and lp
In all honestly, unless injury or something else bad happens, I feel like the USFSA will set to Alysa, Bradie and Mariah to the Olympics no matter what. USFSA usually like to keep the world team and who they politik/promote consistent year to year and regardless of how brilliant Ting or any other girl is I can't see them breaking that trio. Remember the USFSA official who pretty much told Tara after the 98 nationals SP "relax you're on the team already." Tonya K. joking about the media and Campbell's soup. Remember that? Does anyone really think even the skate of a lifetime by Angela would have changed the Michelle, Sasha, Sarah trio in 2002? Really? I genuinely believe the team is set regardless of how much competition we might think there is.That's the thing, none of the women are skating in a vacuum. You have to be hungry to make it to the top, and a lot of these women are talented and able to perform well. However, wanting to perform well isn't enough; if you say you want to skate in the next Olympics, you need that competitive fire to want to win and beat the others because there will only be a few spots.
The were rebroadcasting Junior Worlds-2018-not even the year Ting medaled-and the talent she possessed-wow. I have no clue if she is back to where she was, but if she is, (or if she can get there) I think she could be a spoiler. It is true though that the USFSA tends to send skaters with international reputations, although Ting has at least a junior reputation.In all honestly, unless injury or something else bad happens, I feel like the USFSA will set to Alysa, Bradie and Mariah to the Olympics no matter what. USFSA usually like to keep the world team and who they politik/promote consistent year to year and regardless of how brilliant Ting or any other girl is I can't see them breaking that trio. Remember the USFSA official who pretty much told Tara after the 98 nationals SP "relax you're on the team already." Tonya K. joking about the media and Campbell's soup. Remember that? Does anyone really think even the skate of a lifetime by Angela would have changed the Michelle, Sasha, Sarah trio in 2002? Really? I genuinely believe the team is set regardless of how much competition we might think there is.
Besides those three who else currently has a strong international record? Nobody else comes close to those three. And we saw what happened in 2014 and 2018 so we know they will bend backwards to get the team they already got in mind no matter what. It truly sucks for Ting, Hannah and the other girls but that's how it goes. The only one who can truly spoil it, in my opinion, is a sudden miraculous back to 2014 form Gracie (and everyone knows how unlikely that is).
In all honestly, unless injury or something else bad happens, I feel like the USFSA will set to Alysa, Bradie and Mariah to the Olympics no matter what. USFSA usually like to keep the world team and who they politik/promote consistent year to year and regardless of how brilliant Ting or any other girl is I can't see them breaking that trio. Remember the USFSA official who pretty much told Tara after the 98 nationals SP "relax you're on the team already." Tonya K. joking about the media and Campbell's soup. Remember that? Does anyone really think even the skate of a lifetime by Angela would have changed the Michelle, Sasha, Sarah trio in 2002? Really? I genuinely believe the team is set regardless of how much competition we might think there is.
Besides those three who else currently has a strong international record? Nobody else comes close to those three. And we saw what happened in 2014 and 2018 so we know they will bend backwards to get the team they already got in mind no matter what. It truly sucks for Ting, Hannah and the other girls but that's how it goes. The only one who can truly spoil it, in my opinion, is a sudden miraculous back to 2014 form Gracie (and everyone knows how unlikely that is).
With all due respect, of course Tara and Michelle were a lock for the ‘98 Olympic team. The question was who would get that third spot. About Sasha, that’s a good question. She had all the hype. Angela was hot and cold. It’s hard to say what wouldn’t happened had Angela skated lights out.In all honestly, unless injury or something else bad happens, I feel like the USFSA will set to Alysa, Bradie and Mariah to the Olympics no matter what. USFSA usually like to keep the world team and who they politik/promote consistent year to year and regardless of how brilliant Ting or any other girl is I can't see them breaking that trio. Remember the USFSA official who pretty much told Tara after the 98 nationals SP "relax you're on the team already." Tonya K. joking about the media and Campbell's soup. Remember that? Does anyone really think even the skate of a lifetime by Angela would have changed the Michelle, Sasha, Sarah trio in 2002? Really? I genuinely believe the team is set regardless of how much competition we might think there is.
Besides those three who else currently has a strong international record? Nobody else comes close to those three. And we saw what happened in 2014 and 2018 so we know they will bend backwards to get the team they already got in mind no matter what. It truly sucks for Ting, Hannah and the other girls but that's how it goes. The only one who can truly spoil it, in my opinion, is a sudden miraculous back to 2014 form Gracie (and everyone knows how unlikely that is).
the pandemic has done Gracie zero favors. she is still in the process of regaining competitive form and time away from the ice will only make you regress or stall your progress. it's a different for skaters who haven't taken long breaks and completely lost form. i would imagine it's been 10x harder for Gracie than anyone else.I'm happy for Gracie that she is approaching her career with a healthier, more mature mindset. While I think she enjoys competing and loves to skate, it seems that she's lost the fire needed to get back to the top in US skating. I thought covid might have been an equalizer that might put someone like Gracie on par with skaters ahead of her since no one has been training, but it doesn't seem like she's made up any ground. I'd much prefer to see her fall attempting triples than popping jumps into singles or doubles, because at least that would show she's fighting.
But there's another factor ... US fans and USFS also Love, Love, Love to have a fire-cracking newcomer burst onto the scene, especially in the ladies' division. Mirai in 2008-2010. Polina and Gracie in 2014. Bradie in 2018.Besides those three who else currently has a strong international record? Nobody else comes close to those three. And we saw what happened in 2014 and 2018 so we know they will bend backwards to get the team they already got in mind no matter what.
Gracie said in the SH interview in May that it's really hard for her not to be physically present with the people who give her support and validation (a word she used more than once in other contexts). So I concur with your "10x" evaluation. And don't forget, until a couple of years ago, she and Carly had each other 100% of the time, being each other's biggest fan. So yeah. And just speaking of the physical, more than one skater has said the pandemic break was the longest time off ice they've ever had except for recovering from injuries. And that was qualitatively different because they were still doing rehab that kept them working with others toward their goal.the pandemic has done Gracie zero favors. she is still in the process of regaining competitive form and time away from the ice will only make you regress or stall your progress. it's a different for skaters who haven't taken long breaks and completely lost form. i would imagine it's been 10x harder for Gracie than anyone else.