2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Edwin]

Krasnoyarsk has won a stage of the Junior Grand Prix 2021/2022!

September 18-19 in Platinum Arena.

Красноярск примет этап серии Гран-при по фигурному катанию среди юн...

Although Krasnoyarsk, deep in Siberia, is already in Asia, no Japan or Korea stages, nor Australia.

Gorshkov is pleased:

"Krasnoyarsk has established itself very well in connection with the holding of major competitions, including the World Winter Universiade, last year's Russian figure skating championship, everything was at the highest level. That is why we decided to offer the stage of the Junior Grand Prix to Krasnoyarsk. The most important thing for us is another opportunity to popularize our sport, not only in the central part of our country, but also in the very heart of Siberia "

Горшков: этап Гран-при в Красноярске поможет популяризировать фигурное катание в Сибири - ТАСС

Во вторник стало известно, что Красноярск примет этап Гран-при среди юниоров в сезоне-2021/22

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[TripleAxelQueens3]

Krasnoyarsk has won a stage of the Junior Grand Prix 2021/2022!

September 18-19 in Platinum Arena.

Красноярск примет этап серии Гран-при по фигурному катанию среди юн...

Although Krasnoyarsk, deep in Siberia, is already in Asia, no Japan or Korea stages, nor Australia.

But at least Russia gets one more spot!
(Still crying for all the juniors this year, especially Samodelkina and Muravyeva.)

 

[plushyfan]

Oh, I wouldn't know much about that. I must admit I do not hold Zheleznyakov in high regard after his comments after Sasha left so I may be biased here (but who's not? : biggrin. Still, as for his classes, even when you look at this video you can see everyone is on a different level and comes accross differently. It is not like a group of proffessional dancers when you can say everyone is able to keep the same standard. And still they go through the same practice routines under the same dancing coach. So I think Anna really shines so brightly due mainly to her natural "ballerina" set of skills. Honestly, she would probably shine under any dancing coach of an acceptable standard.
Sasha is a different case and probably more appropriate for dancing coaches assessment as she is not such a natural dancing talent as Anna (I love her, but I am not blind). Therefore, watching how she is doing with different dancing coaches actually tells much more about the coach and his coaching skills. And everyone seems to agree that she is visibly doing much better in this department now when compared to when she was training with Zheleznyahov. So, it seems, he is not really that sublime when compared to other dancing coaches... sorry to say

For me, Kamila is the best dancer

 

[flanker]

Krasnoyarsk has won a stage of the Junior Grand Prix 2021/2022!

September 18-19 in Platinum Arena.

Красноярск примет этап серии Гран-при по фигурному катанию среди юн...

Although Krasnoyarsk, deep in Siberia, is already in Asia, no Japan or Korea stages, nor Australia.

When I think that I have to wait for the JGP series for another year...

 

[lopsilceci]

2 more open spots left after Shcherbakova, Tuktamysheva, Samodurova, Gulyakova, Usachyova, Konstantinova, Nugumanova, Molchanova, Sarnovskaya, Sabora,

I thought TT would send Maia Khromykh again with Anna.

 

[Edwin]

Is it true that Medvyedeva and Zagitova train more than the guys? How to keep jumping in puberty? Why Shoma Uno could not held his own at Tutberidze's?

Interesting interview with Sergey Dobrin, expererienced physical exercise trainer and consultant for many decades in figure skating.

Topics:

How do skaters stay on the ice for so long? Hockey players are usually changed every 30-40 seconds

How do skaters prepare off the ice?

Rotation is an element that requires both a good vestibular apparatus and coordination. How do the skaters continue their program after so many turns?

Why were the jump bonuses canceled in the second half of the program? Just because of imbalance?

Which takes more effort - quadruple jumps or difficult sequences and connections?

Skaters manage to show emotions during difficult routines. Is this brought forth automaticity or do athletes really live through every skating run?

There is a trend, especially in women, that the second score rises with the advent of ultra-si. Why bother with difficult entrances and sequences then?

How different is the amount of work for boys and girls?

How does puberty and weight affect fitness?

When Shoma Uno trained with Tutberidze, he was surprised by the importance of general physical training, warm-up and cool down. Is this an exception to the rule or the norm for foreigners?

 

[Edwin]

I thought TT would send Maia Khromykh again with Anna.

Nothing definite yet, some skaters were seen in training today.

FFKKR still hasn't updated its 2020/21 roster even.

 

[Edwin]

There has also been an interview with Tat'yana Mishina, from Novogorsk, where the Sankt Peterburg skaters are now training, but I cannot find the whole of it.

And certain excerpts sounded strange to me without knowing the context.

 

[Edwin]

Menus for Skaters

fun blog post with skaters and their presumed favourite foods.

Lots of nice pictures and yummie food.

 

[Edwin]

Ad Astra

very nice three part series of blog postings on the three top performances from the 2nd Stage of Russian Cup:

Dar'ya Usachyova: beauty is beautiful
The TeamTutberidze junior girls were as beautiful as two graces, etched into images. But each had her own picture. Dasha's chaste and at the same time sensual palette and Kamila's sky-blue, airy water color.

Enigma: Kamila Valiyeva's Bolero
It will be a magnetic dance, subtly thought out, almost mathematically calculated, like in real snake attacks. This beautiful, mysterious snake inexorably and skillfully draws you into its only known plan, beckons and does not let go, checks and holds.

The phenomenon of Team Tutberidze. Before and after. Girl of the present on the move
Now we have been shown the lyrics and new artistry in a highly controversial choreographic cut. Since the artistic component of figure skating is a matter of taste, I will not argue with those who see a " new " Sasha. I think she was dressed up as a princess on a chamomile (insert any adjective) field too early - she's still trying to race against time.
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I've interpreted the Valiyeva piece in her own thread already since it was so well written I couldn't resist. The other two might not pass the censorship of this board.

 

[Flying Feijoa]

I'm alright with ballet, contemporary, tap, hip hop, folk dance, lyrical jazz (and would say that all of these have broader applicability to skating in terms of both physical training and developing musicality). But commercial dance (referring to the genre) has this confrontational stare and manic movement which makes me a bit queasy

I'll happily credit Eteri, Danny G and Sergei D for their skaters' success, but I don't think Zhelezhnyakov is particularly instrumental in it (although he seems to think so...)

 

[Edwin]

I'm alright with ballet, contemporary, tap, hip hop, folk dance, lyrical jazz (and would say that all of these have broader applicability to skating in terms of both physical training and developing musicality). But commercial dance (referring to the genre) has this confrontational stare and manic movement which makes me a bit queasy

I'll happily credit Eteri, Danny G and Sergei D for their skaters' success, but I don't think Zhelezhnyakov is particularly instrumental in it (although he seems to think so...)

You are mistaking it as a dance performance.
This is Zheleznyakov (and since he is an integral part of) #TeamTurberidzeForProgess' idea of physical development of athletes through intensive dance. Read more about this here: "To find the middle ground" On the role of choreography in the development of figure skaters, by Alexey Zheleznyakov

 

[Edwin]

On the subject of physical development through dance, the competing rink, which owner proclaimed has no time for streaming, does daily live streams. Watch some of their dance lessons for comparison. A copy much worse compared to the (probably expensive) original.

But before that, you shouldn't forget Zheleznyakov owns and operates a commercial dance academy, so he is sort of preaching his own gospel. However, I think the results of this particular approach show in every Khrustalniy skater.

And come to think of it, doing these live streams opens up infinite possibilities for online trolling, so we'll see how long they lasts.

 

[esteticlove]

I'll happily credit Eteri, Danny G and Sergei D for their skaters' success, but I don't think Zhelezhnyakov is particularly instrumental in it (although he seems to think so...)

As far as I know, those dances are particularly made to be "weird" with a lot of strange body movements, in order to develop coordination and flexibility. It trains the muscles + stamina, since it is a physical activity, and also helps the skaters to memorize easily different types of choreographies in a short time. There was a special video with Evgenia where she was explaining in detail why they are doing it (probably from the 2016 season). For students like Anna and Kamila, who are naturally gifted, it might look like they don't need such kind of a training, but I can definitely see Zheleznyakov's contribution in skaters that were originally more stiff. Also, some of his dancing moves have been introduced into Daniil's choreos.

So, generally the idea is not to produce a team dance. Everyone is working on their own progress, they just happen to be together and can make it more enjoyable. Zheleznyakov knows that people like those videos, and lately seems to be putting more thoughts on the "group" choreography, like for example one part does one thing and the other something different.

 

[Jontor]

I worry if there will be a World Championships in Stockholm.

If not, it will be devastating for the strongest Russian ladies team ever, who had the chance to sweap the podium. And it was not only once but twice. Many ladies skaters have their peak in 1-2 years and then they're gone. If this is the case for Shcherbakova, Kostornaia and Trusova remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that they have been very unlucky with their careers.

Back in March, the Swedish 'Folkhälsomyndigheten' banned public gatherings of more than 50+ people. That means that sports arenas, theatres, concert halls etc had to cancel their events. This ban was expected to expire 1 oct, but it didn't. It still stands. The motivation for this strategy was not the arenas itself, but the public transports to, and the queueing in and out of the arenas.

So, as I see it, if this 50+ people ban is still in force in March 2021, the only way for Stockholm to arrange the Championships is without audience. Is that even economically possible?

The Swedish FS Federation will meet 24-25 october, hopefully we will get more information after that.

 

[plushyfan]

-Я не Джульетта, не Джульетта я. Я злой рок! - I am not Juliet, I am not Juliet. I am evil (?)! What it means "рок"

 

[gehirn]

- I am not Juliet, I am not Juliet. I am evil (?)! What it means "рок"

Cruel fate or doom

 

[Edwin]

I worry if there will be a World Championships in Stockholm.

If not, it will be devastating for the strongest Russian ladies team ever, who had the chance to sweap the podium. And it was not only once but twice. Many ladies skaters have their peak in 1-2 years and then they're gone. If this is the case for Shcherbakova, Kostornaia and Trusova remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that they have been very unlucky with their careers.

Back in March, the Swedish 'Folkhälsomyndigheten' banned public gatherings of more than 50+ people. That means that sports arenas, theatres, concert halls etc had to cancel their events. This ban was expected to expire 1 oct, but it didn't. It still stands. The motivation for this strategy was not the arenas itself, but the public transports to, and the queueing in and out of the arenas.

So, as I see it, if this 50+ people ban is still in force in March 2021, the only way for Stockholm to arrange the Championships is without audience. Is that even economically possible?

The Swedish FS Federation will meet 24-25 october, hopefully we will get more information after that.

If your sponsors are willing to pay up the deficit from lost ticket sales, everything is possible. Including commercial streaming behind a paywall.

 

[Lechat]

I worry if there will be a World Championships in Stockholm.

If not, it will be devastating for the strongest Russian ladies team ever, who had the chance to sweap the podium. And it was not only once but twice. Many ladies skaters have their peak in 1-2 years and then they're gone. If this is the case for Shcherbakova, Kostornaia and Trusova remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that they have been very unlucky with their careers.

Back in March, the Swedish 'Folkhälsomyndigheten' banned public gatherings of more than 50+ people. That means that sports arenas, theatres, concert halls etc had to cancel their events. This ban was expected to expire 1 oct, but it didn't. It still stands. The motivation for this strategy was not the arenas itself, but the public transports to, and the queueing in and out of the arenas.

So, as I see it, if this 50+ people ban is still in force in March 2021, the only way for Stockholm to arrange the Championships is without audience. Is that even economically possible?

The Swedish FS Federation will meet 24-25 october, hopefully we will get more information after that.

well skate canada is cancelled, idem for GPF France, I don’t know for Skate America and the other events but I doubt there will be a GPF final this year so I would not be surprised if the europeans and worlds are also canceled.

yeah it’s a pity for all the top skaters who are working so hard to stay in shape but I can’t see how international competitions could provide security for all the skaters and people involved and it would be weird without spectators.

 

[flanker]

"Princess Anna" and "empress Elizaveta" in a teaser for the third stage of the Cup: