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I agree that ice is slippery, but I think a lot of skaters would have to skate less than ideal for the US to get a third spot (along with the US ladies having to skate well—rotating almost everything). It’s not impossible but I honestly think there’s like a 10% or lower chance 😬
We don’t even know who would come if there was a Worlds. Much depends on who is ill. Hopefully no one but that is unlikely.
 
We don’t even know who would come if there was a Worlds. Much depends on who is ill. Hopefully no one but that is unlikely.
Yeah that’s true and I also hope that no more skaters get sick. One thing that could be a benefit of the US ladies is that they have a lot more competition experience heading into worlds (if it happens), which isn’t really fair but it could be an advantage for them. I do still think that the chances of a third spot are still extremely unlikely, even with other competitors having less experience this season.
 
Yeah that’s true and I also hope that no more skaters get sick. One thing that could be a benefit of the US ladies is that they have a lot more competition experience heading into worlds (if it happens), which isn’t really fair but it could be an advantage for them. I do still think that the chances of a third spot are still extremely unlikely, even with other competitors having less experience this season.
Karen inproved so much between Skate America and Nationals that I could see her doing well at Worlds. She was rotating her 3/3 at Nationals practice; she might surprise us and rotate everything at Worlds (assuming it hsppens).
 
Karen inproved so much between Skate America and Nationals that I could see her doing well at Worlds. She was rotating her 3/3 at Nationals practice; she might surprise us and rotate everything at Worlds (assuming it hsppens).
That would be great, but it is extremely unlikely. If she rotates all her jumps (which she has never done before in any senior competition), she would definitely score well. Karen is a beautiful skater. However, the more likely scenario where Karen will score better is if there is generous technical calling. 2019 Worlds had a very lax technical caller, if Worlds happens this year and the technical panel doesn't do their jobs properly that would definitely benefit Karen. However, it would also benefit Anna S., Satoko, Young You, and several other skaters. So, I am not sure it would be a net benefit for the US in their search for 3 spots.

Anyway, I just hope this whole thing motivates Amber to do even better next year. Right now, Bradie and Alysa are the definite favorites for the 2 spots that the USA is likely to have next year. However, if Amber can continue her improvement and she begins landing her 3A in competition, she could play spoiler. She has a lot of the same qualities that make Kaori S. such a popular skater. Speed jumps that seem effortless and full of abandon. But, she is more musical than Kaori and has better upper-body control. She could really score well if she learns control in competition and gets a 3A. I hope Mariah and Karen are also motivated to keep improving.
 
I forgot the olympic qualifications rules. So, in order for a country to gain 2 spots, the top skater must finish in the top 10 at the previous world championships? In order to gain 1 spot, the skater must..... I don't know, make the free skate at the previous worlds?
 
I forgot the olympic qualifications rules. So, in order for a country to gain 2 spots, the top skater must finish in the top 10 at the previous world championships? In order to gain 1 spot, the skater must..... I don't know, make the free skate at the previous worlds?
for 3 spots their placements have to add up to 13 or less at the previous worlds, but i'm not sure about 2 or 1 spots.
 
I forgot the olympic qualifications rules. So, in order for a country to gain 2 spots, the top skater must finish in the top 10 at the previous world championships? In order to gain 1 spot, the skater must..... I don't know, make the free skate at the previous worlds?

for 3 spots their placements have to add up to 13 or less at the previous worlds, but i'm not sure about 2 or 1 spots.

From 1 to 2 spots: A skater must finish up to 10th place.
From 1 to 3 spots: A skater must finish 1st or 2nd (like Lilbet at 2019 worlds).
Preserveing 2 spots (or from 3 to 2 spots): the sum of the placements of the two (best) skaters must give 28 or less (while all placements from 16th place further count as 16).
From 2 to 3 spots (and preserving 3 spots): the sum of the placements of the best two skaters must give 13 or less.
 
That would be great, but it is extremely unlikely. If she rotates all her jumps (which she has never done before in any senior competition), she would definitely score well. Karen is a beautiful skater. However, the more likely scenario where Karen will score better is if there is generous technical calling. 2019 Worlds had a very lax technical caller, if Worlds happens this year and the technical panel doesn't do their jobs properly that would definitely benefit Karen. However, it would also benefit Anna S., Satoko, Young You, and several other skaters. So, I am not sure it would be a net benefit for the US in their search for 3 spots.

Anyway, I just hope this whole thing motivates Amber to do even better next year. Right now, Bradie and Alysa are the definite favorites for the 2 spots that the USA is likely to have next year. However, if Amber can continue her improvement and she begins landing her 3A in competition, she could play spoiler. She has a lot of the same qualities that make Kaori S. such a popular skater. Speed jumps that seem effortless and full of abandon. But, she is more musical than Kaori and has better upper-body control. She could really score well if she learns control in competition and gets a 3A. I hope Mariah and Karen are also motivated to keep improving.
I agree 100%. I was actually hoping they'd send Amber this year! She would have been a wild card at Worlds, but with her 3a potential, the US would probably have had a better chance at three spots.
 
From 1 to 2 spots: A skater must finish up to 10th place.
From 1 to 3 spots: A skater must finish 1st or 2nd (like Lilbet at 2019 worlds).
Preserveing 2 spots (or from 3 to 2 spots): the sum of the placements of the two (best) skaters must give 28 or less (while all placements from 16th place further count as 16).
From 2 to 3 spots (and preserving 3 spots): the sum of the placements of the best two skaters must give 13 or less.
Thanks for the info. So, if a skater from, say, New Zealand (which never really has any skaters at Worlds) had a wunderkind who finished in the top 10 at this year's Worlds, would NZ have 1 spot or 2?
 
Thanks for the info. So, if a skater from, say, New Zealand (which never really has any skaters at Worlds) had a wunderkind who finished in the top 10 at this year's Worlds, would NZ have 1 spot or 2?
If the placement would be 3-10, NZ would receive 2 spots for the 2022 worlds (and olympics :) ). Of course there is still individual requirement that a skater must fulfill (minimal technical score at ISU event) and if a country doesn't have more skaters with minimal score, the entry expires.
 
Karen inproved so much between Skate America and Nationals that I could see her doing well at Worlds. She was rotating her 3/3 at Nationals practice; she might surprise us and rotate everything at Worlds (assuming it hsppens).
Yeah, in practice Karen generally seems to look more promising than in competitions. For example at nationals this year, even though she was landing nice jumps in practice, in the short she ended up not rotating every triple in the short. And internationally, she would get way more punished than she was here. It’s just hard to imagine Karen rotating everything because it has never happened, and since this is the worlds that as of right now decides the Olympic spots, there’s extra pressure. And I know Karen did well in 2017, but it was a completely different skating world back then and 129 now wouldn’t be top 10.
 
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I forgot the olympic qualifications rules. ...

Thanks for the info. So, if a skater from, say, New Zealand (which never really has any skaters at Worlds) had a wunderkind who finished in the top 10 at this year's Worlds, would NZ have 1 spot or 2?

If the placement would be 3-10, NZ would receive 2 spots for the 2022 worlds (and olympics :) ). Of course there is still individual requirement that a skater must fulfill (minimal technical score at ISU event) and if a country doesn't have more skaters with minimal score, the entry expires.

Guys, you are forgetting that 2022 Olympic qualification has a new wrinkle (added after 2018 OWG):

For example:

If Country XYZ were entitled to only one entry in ladies at 2021 Worlds, and this lady (Lady ABC) placed in the top ten at 2021 Worlds, what she would earn for Country XYZ in terms of 2022 Olympics is:
- one slot at 2022 Olympics
- PLUS the opportunity for a different lady (not Lady ABC) to compete at 2021 Nebelhorn with hopes of earning there a second 2022 Olympics slot for Country XYZ​

In other words:
The number of 2022 Olympic spots that a country is allowed to earn *outright* at 2021 Worlds is limited to the number of entries who qualify for the FS at 2021 Worlds.​



Good luck to all the Junior Ladies at Nats this week.

(Go, Kate Wang, Tamnhi Huynh, Kanon Smith, Jessica Lin, and everyone!)
 
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I definitely see Bradie finishing in the top 8 and that will keep us with 2 spots going into the Olympic season. If Karen skates clean, I could see them both in the top 10 as Karen has potential due to her Component Scores. It will be very interesting to see what happens.
 
it would be nice if they gave 3 spots if you have both your skaters in the top 10, i think that is deserving enough. there are still not many countries that would manage that.
 
Was 2006 that last time we had 3 Ladies at the Olympics? Sasha, Kimmie, and Emily Hughes.
 
Happy to see that Tamnhi Huynh is the subject of a new article today.

Tamnhi impressed many of us at 2020 Nats, where she placed sixth in Junior Ladies.
She had qualified for 2020 Nats by placing second in Novice Ladies at sectionals.




Is there any way to watch juniors?

Peacock Premium will stream junior competition from Nats.
 
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