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Yes, but the quality of her skating and jumps have improved since then. I am sure she would score higher with a clean 4 quad program now. The issue is that anything over 3 Quads is extremely difficult for anyone other than Nathan Chen. It takes so much stamina. Sasha has been injured and I don't know if she will have the stamina.
Well, Yuzuru Hanyu routinely skates 4-quad programs (with 2 3A, so 6 ultra-C jumps, just like a Nathan Chen's 5-quad program). Stamina-wise, his Origin program was exhausting in itself. His new program, Heaven and Earth, doesn't seem so heavy in this respect. And Shoma Uno does too, though at Nationals for instance, he somehow bombed his 4T combo. (I don't enter the question of his technique.) Yuma Kagiyama had "only" 3, as several other Men have.
But not only is she a Lady, she's also only 16. Of course she's more "grown up" than a 16-year-old Man, but still. She had serious growth spurts lately, she's injured...
 

Not judging, but the US has a rule where the whole team can not travel together... how common it is for the whole Russian team to travel to an event together? Going from my faulty memory it feels like the events in east asia seem to have most the team together on the same plane.
Now that’s a great flight to be on. Imagine traveling with the whole Russian ladies team.
 
Not sure if this is the right thread to bring it up in, but can anyone tell me how (I saw this on Instagram and Twitter) Eteri, Sergei, and Daniil can all go to worlds? I thought the ISU said it was only one coach per skater... and Eteri only has two people:scratch2: So...
 
Not sure if this is the right thread to bring it up in, but can anyone tell me how (I saw this on Instagram and Twitter) Eteri, Sergei, and Daniil can all go to worlds? I thought the ISU said it was only one coach per skater... and Eteri only has two people:scratch2: So...
Thanks to Mishin. He goes to worlds with three skaters and only one assistant.
 
I would think that Sasha might go for 4 quads, and land at least 3 of them cleanly (obviously depending on the state of her injury).
At cup stages, she first went for 3 quads, landed 2, on the following stage she went for 4 and landed 3. So having room for error might be able to help her psychologically. Seeing how she attempted 3 at 1TV cup, I would think she’s preparing for skating either that content or upgrading with 1 more quad.

Anna is a question mark for me, I would think they will go for a safe option of 2 quads and bet on consistency.
 
I would think that Sasha might go for 4 quads, and land at least 3 of them cleanly (obviously depending on the state of her injury).
At cup stages, she first went for 3 quads, landed 2, on the following stage she went for 4 and landed 3. So having room for error might be able to help her psychologically. Seeing how she attempted 3 at 1TV cup, I would think she’s preparing for skating either that content or upgrading with 1 more quad.

Anna is a question mark for me, I would think they will go for a safe option of 2 quads and bet on consistency.
As for Anna's consistency, I believe more in three clean quads than both clean 3Lz+3Lo combos in SP and FS :)
 
I would think that Sasha might go for 4 quads, and land at least 3 of them cleanly (obviously depending on the state of her injury).
At cup stages, she first went for 3 quads, landed 2, on the following stage she went for 4 and landed 3. So having room for error might be able to help her psychologically. Seeing how she attempted 3 at 1TV cup, I would think she’s preparing for skating either that content or upgrading with 1 more quad.

Anna is a question mark for me, I would think they will go for a safe option of 2 quads and bet on consistency.
Anna did plan to go for three by Rostelecom or at the latest RusNats. (The only reason she didn't was because she got pneumonia and didn't do any runthroughs at all leading to RusNats.) And she was upset that she "only" did two at RusNats. (So was Sasha.) So, I kinda think Anna's plan is probably 3. (We also know she's learned a 4F-3T that she didn't have last year.)

As for Sasha, I think I think she'll do at least 3 (maybe 4 depending on how the 4S or 4F is.) I also think she'll try for the 3A in the SP (which she actually needs more than she needs another quad.) If Anna does 3 quads in the FS, she needs either a 3A in the SP and three quads in the FS or four quads in the FS. (But four quads in one skate is riskier..so I think the decision will be whichever one is more stable - the 3A or the 4th quad.) (Especially as even with only 3 quads, Anna's BV will be close to hers.)
 
As for Sasha, I think I think she'll do at least 3 (maybe 4 depending on how the 4S or 4F is.) I also think she'll try for the 3A in the SP (which she actually needs more than she needs another quad.) If Anna does 3 quads in the FS, she needs either a 3A in the SP and three quads in the FS or four quads in the FS. (But four quads in one skate is riskier..so I think the decision will be whichever one is more stable - the 3A or the 4th quad.) (Especially as even with only 3 quads, Anna's BV will be close to hers.)
Anna is definitely going for three quads. Doing two puts her too close to Rika and behind Trusova. Trusova will have to do four in the FS; otherwise, she's lying down and taking that L. Also, she needs to do four quads regardless if she hits the 3A in the short or not. This is because a clean Anna could score in the high 70s in the SP and it’s not necessarily a guarantee that Trusova could top that even if she lands a clean 3A. You know, lost spin & step levels, lower PCS, etc. Hitting the 3A won’t neutralize any lead a clean Anna would possibly have. That’s actually for the girl who has the 3A in the SP.
 
Anna is definitely going for three quads. Doing two puts her too close to Rika and behind Trusova. Trusova will have to do four in the FS; otherwise, she's lying down and taking that L. Also, she needs to do four quads regardless if she hits the 3A in the short or not. This is because a clean Anna could score in the high 70s in the SP and it’s not necessarily a guarantee that Trusova could top that even if she lands a clean 3A. You know, lost spin & step levels, lower PCS, etc. Hitting the 3A won’t neutralize any lead a clean Anna would possibly have. That’s actually for the girl who has the 3A in the SP.
I also think Anna's going for 3.

Hmm, not necessarily. If Sasha's also capable of hitting in the middle (at the lowest) to high 70s in the SP even with her 2A. If Sasha lands a clean 3A she definitely tops that - assuming she's clean everywhere else. She doesn't tend to lose that many levels in spins and steps (if clean she's going to get at least 3 - and she actually does tend to get level 4's.) And while her PCS are lower than Anna's, they're not THAT much lower. There was less than a point in difference in PCS at Euros in the SP (farther away in the FS but while Anna wasn't clean Sasha was much less), and in the SP Anna was perfect while Sasha had a much less than ideal 2A.

And while Anna will now be Russia's #1, Sasha will also now be Russia's #2. Now only will they want them to go gold, silver they'll also want Sasha to be well positioned to get gold if Anna falters.
 
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I also think Anna's going for 3.

Hmm, not necessarily. If Sasha's also capable of hitting in the middle (at the lowest) to high 70s in the SP even with her 2A.
High 70s? Trusova has yet to break 75 in an SP in international competition. Anna, however, has. To be fair, I think her SP is better than what she had last year and I do think it could score around 77 if clean with a 2A. But that wasn't my point. My point was this: If clean Anna scores a 78 in the SP and Trusova manages an 82 (with a clean skate with a 3A), Trusova would still need four quads in the FS as four points is a negligible lead against Anna.
 
High 70s? Trusova has yet to break 75 in an SP in international competition. Anna, however, has. To be fair, I think her SP is better than what she had last year and I do think it could score around 77 if clean with a 2A. But that wasn't my point. My point was this: If clean Anna scores a 78 in the SP and Trusova manages an 82 (with a clean skate with a 3A), Trusova would still need four quads in the FS as four points is a negligible lead against Anna.
No, but that 75 was with a bad 2A. (A clean 2A from Sasha scores about a 4.5 (and she had a 3 there.)) She actually was less than 1.5 points lower than Anna everywhere else, and that's with a 3Lz+3T and not a 3Lz+3Lo. (Which Anna actually hasn't been overly consistent on this year - although neither has Sasha.) That 4.7 change in BV is not inconsequential. So, I actually think an 82+ is actually more than reasonable with higher PCS and a clean skate with a 3A.

While I think Sasha will go for 4 quads if she can - interestingly I think it's less about Anna and more about her just loving to jump and wanting to prove she can, she actually doesn't need to. She'll have a higher BV than Anna even without doing a 4 quad skate FS.

This is partially because Sasha runs the risk of less consistency the more difficult her content is (naturally) and we don't know how her 4S or her 4F is following injury. (Or her 3A for that matter.) (And it's not just Anna she has to watch out for. She can't have a Rostelecom or even a Euros skate.)

And also because Anna if she goes for her 3 quad program (which I think she will) has never attempted it this season. So it's not like Anna's guaranteed to be clean either. (If she goes for the 4F+3T, she's never even attempted that in competition at all and only learned it this season. And she's been seriously ill this season.)
 
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Were there any rules saying that a team could send extra coaches if another team didn’t fully fill their spots?
I think that one of the Mishin's skaters just formally puts one of the "trio" as his accompaniment and no one cares who is from which team as long as there are as many skaters as coaches.
 
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I would think that Sasha might go for 4 quads, and land at least 3 of them cleanly (obviously depending on the state of her injury).
At cup stages, she first went for 3 quads, landed 2, on the following stage she went for 4 and landed 3. So having room for error might be able to help her psychologically. Seeing how she attempted 3 at 1TV cup, I would think she’s preparing for skating either that content or upgrading with 1 more quad.

Anna is a question mark for me, I would think they will go for a safe option of 2 quads and bet on consistency.
If Sasha goes for four quads and lands 3 watch out! Her friendship with Anna will be tested. :)
 
Were there any rules saying that a team could send extra coaches if another team didn’t fully fill their spots?
I feel like the RusFed probably made a lot of the arrangements and probably does all takes care of most of the registrations anyway. And it was more just make sure everyone was registered and the ISU doesn't actually care as long as there is a 1-1 skater coach ratio and each skater has a coach named.

I mean in the past there was one competition where Eteri had a literal army because there were so many of her skaters registered (so it's not exactly new to not bring your actual coach haha.)

And besides I think RusFed is going to go with a best for everyone policy.
 
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