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Alena Kostornaia

I also think it depends whether or not Eteri still wants to keep her... If they kick her out, I can't see another coach in Russia taking her instead given her reputation as being difficult and lazy (thanks Daniil :palmf: ), and I don't think she and her family have the resources for her to train abroad.

But a lot will depend on what Aliona wants to do. It seems like she's quite serious about going to medical school, but if she finishes her other degree at the sports university (?) first, then presumably she could skate competitively for a few more seasons. As a fan, I do hope that's what she will do! (y)
Coaches would take her for sure in Russia and abroad one even in Toronto. The professor would take her Nastya G's coach Rukavicin would take her. He has no ladies who can score 230 points. Davydov would take her. I think she has choices. If she stays at TT fine if she leaves I'm good with that too because the stress may be too much for her in that facility.
 
Coaches would take her for sure in Russia and abroad one even in Toronto. The professor would take her Nastya G's coach Rukavicin would take her. He has no ladies who can score 230 points. Davydov would take her. I think she has choices. If she stays at TT fine if she leaves I'm good with that too because the stress may be too much for her in that facility.
I do think several Russian coaches may accept her but then I'm not sure she would be best trained with them.
I'm not sure either she would want to leave Moscow for St Petersburg.
Abroad would maybe not be a matter of being accepted (I do think too Brian Orser would like to train her) but of finance. I got the impression that the Federation viewed Evguenia Medvedeva's training in Toronto as uselessly expensive, now they have many Women skaters who train with Eteri and wouldn't accept to pay more for a training abroad. Supposing she would be willing to relocate.
 
I do think several Russian coaches may accept her but then I'm not sure she would be best trained with them.
I'm not sure either she would want to leave Moscow for St Petersburg.
Abroad would maybe not be a matter of being accepted (I do think too Brian Orser would like to train her) but of finance. I got the impression that the Federation viewed Evguenia Medvedeva's training in Toronto as uselessly expensive, now they have many Women skaters who train with Eteri and wouldn't accept to pay more for a training abroad. Supposing she would be willing to relocate.
Yes she would and probably should leave Moscow for a new start. I think they took her back at TT partly to keep her away from other Russian coaches. It will be interesting to see if she stays with EG that is a possibility as well. The question is will TT bring back all these girls?
 
I do think several Russian coaches may accept her but then I'm not sure she would be best trained with them.
I'm not sure either she would want to leave Moscow for St Petersburg.
Abroad would maybe not be a matter of being accepted (I do think too Brian Orser would like to train her) but of finance. I got the impression that the Federation viewed Evguenia Medvedeva's training in Toronto as uselessly expensive, now they have many Women skaters who train with Eteri and wouldn't accept to pay more for a training abroad. Supposing she would be willing to relocate.
What about Lambiel in Switzerland. He would give her great programs. Lambiel was my first pick for Evgenia.
 
Hearing what happened with Evgenia's injury and the things Yana has been saying, makes me quite worried for Aliona. And more upset at Daniil. I hope Aliona continues to stand up for herself and listen to the doctors.
 
Hearing what happened with Evgenia's injury and the things Yana has been saying, makes me quite worried for Aliona. And more upset at Daniil. I hope Aliona continues to stand up for herself and listen to the doctors.
Are you talking about that she may have had coronavirus twice?

Aliana is a woman now so she has to stand up for herself.
 
I highly doubt it. I expect big changes after Olympics...
What kind of big changes? I sort of think so as well. There are just too many primo girls for one coach I mean we are legit talking 6 top girls plus SA and Petro.

I think the programs at TT this year were a little disappointing except for Sasha's.
 
What kind of big changes? I sort of think so as well. There are just too many primo girls for one coach I mean we are legit talking 6 top girls plus SA and Petro.

I think the programs at TT this year were a little disappointing except for Sasha's.
I rather expect Anna will wish to retire, officially or unofficially, to engage in full time higher education, and some people believe that Kamila may grow up and become really very tall, and may prefer to stop figure skating too. Also, depending on Sasha's results, I don't know if she will want to stay at Team Tutberidze.
 
What about Lambiel in Switzerland. He would give her great programs. Lambiel was my first pick for Evgenia.
There's the same financial problem as with any coaching abroad. I don't think Russian Fed will be willing to spend money for a skater to be coached abroad.
 
No, rather that Yana said she had a back injury and doctors were advising not to train on it. And we've seen this season that her back looks a lot stiffer than before.
I don't know how serious and thoughtful are Rudkovskaya's words in this case. Unfortunately, she often communicates with journalists, being not in the best mood. Let me remind you that she spoke about Kostornaya in March this year:

Alena Kostornaya did not come to Eugene. She came to "Angels Plushenko" to Sergei Alexandrovich Rozanov. At first Eugene helped, but then she began to study only with Sergei Alexandrovich between her illnesses and recoveries ... No one is interested in writing that Kostornaya left Rozanov ...

And nothing about back problems. And no other sources of information about this. It is possible that Yana, in irritation after the interview with Tarasova, confused something.

In general, I think one should not make hasty conclusions and make premature plans for a "new start". The third "new start" in less than a year and a half is too much. Alena is still not a character from a book about the gallant soldier Schweik, who started a new life every Saturday, but the next morning he invariably woke up at the police station.
 
There's the same financial problem as with any coaching abroad. I don't think Russian Fed will be willing to spend money for a skater to be coached abroad.
they could go to these costs if it promised medals - the only goal to which the federation aspires. But for the officials to believe in these future medals, Alena will have to demonstrate good results now. And if she succeeds, then why leave Tutberidze?
 
I don't know how serious and thoughtful are Rudkovskaya's words in this case. Unfortunately, she often communicates with journalists, being not in the best mood. Let me remind you that she spoke about Kostornaya in March this year:



And nothing about back problems. And no other sources of information about this. It is possible that Yana, in irritation after the interview with Tarasova, confused something.

In general, I think one should not make hasty conclusions and make premature plans for a "new start". The third "new start" in less than a year and a half is too much. Alena is still not a character from a book about the gallant soldier Schweik, who started a new life every Saturday, but the next morning he invariably woke up at the police station.
There was a mention of back problems last season but this season if I remember correctly, either Eteri Tutberidze or Daniil Gleikhengauz said her back was OK. I suppose she had to slow down on her practice last season and it fixed a good deal of the problem, but of course it didn't help with her results. I remember too, during general confinement she worked a lot on her Biellmann flexibility and I wonder if she wasn't too hard on this move. This season her Biellmanns are not as insane as last year's and that's maybe why her back is better. She has very beautiful drop-like Biellmans and I much prefer her not to injury her back! Maybe Biellmanns à la Sotnikova are OK at 15 but not at 17-18.
 
There was a mention of back problems last season but this season if I remember correctly, either Eteri Tutberidze or Daniil Gleikhengauz said her back was OK. I suppose she had to slow down on her practice last season and it fixed a good deal of the problem, but of course it didn't help with her results. I remember too, during general confinement she worked a lot on her Biellmann flexibility and I wonder if she wasn't too hard on this move. This season her Biellmanns are not as insane as last year's and that's maybe why her back is better. She has very beautiful drop-like Biellmans and I much prefer her not to injury her back! Maybe Biellmanns à la Sotnikova are OK at 15 but not at 17-18.
I watched the last season fragmentarily - I started with the Russian championship (and that is already on the record). So, of course, I could have missed the messages about her back. But still, her failure at the Russian Cup, as far as I remember, was more likely associated with a sudden change of FS (before that, there were also positive tests for covid).
 
I watched the last season fragmentarily - I started with the Russian championship (and that is already on the record). So, of course, I could have missed the messages about her back. But still, her failure at the Russian Cup, as far as I remember, was more likely associated with a sudden change of FS (before that, there were also positive tests for covid).
She did have a symptomatic CoViD (in this interview Yana Rudkovskaia mentioned another infection later, if I understand well, I don't know what sort of infection and if it's true or if she's confusing things) and was out of ice quite a long time, and it took her time to get her lung capacity back it seems. She still has a somehow reduced stamina, I don't know if it's related to these infections or to her daily schedule.
 
The talk about Aliona's back injury came up in an interview Yana gave recently. There's an English translation here:

Yana Rudkovskaya: Evgeni coached Alena for only a month and a half. And when Sasha made a demand to choose – either she or Kostornaia, my husband chose her. In principle, when athletes make such demands, I agree with Eteri Georgievna – it won’t do any good. So Sergei Rozanov worked with Alena. Both Alena and Sasha did not have a sparring partner. Evgeni came, helped, gave some advice, but Alena trained very little.

Her back hurted a lot, the doctors forbade loads, why is everyone silent about this? She had covid, a complication – viral sore throat. She practically did not train at full strength. It’s difficult to talk about a full season. Not because Seryozha Rozanov is a bad coach, but because she was ill all season. In total, she trained fully only two months. Four – was ill. She came to us without an axel, and now 10 months have passed, but so far we have not seen a clean axel at the competitions. Alena is 18 years old, not 15, not everything is as simple as everyone would like. I will be sincerely glad if she succeeds, she is a very talented girl, I am very sorry that Evgeni could not train her. Very sorry.

But I remember reading about this while Aliona was still at AoP -- I think when she first arrived Plushenko said she had some kind of injury that they needed to treat, but they did not specify what it was at the time...

I also have noticed that Aliona's back seems stiffer than before -- or that she's being very careful with her back. When she attempts an Ina Bauer, she doesn't lean back as much as before, and her donut spin/twisted donut (? like a Biellmann) looks labored compared to before. But if that helps her avoid chronic pain/permanent injury, then I'm all for her prioritizing her long-term health! (y)

As for Aliona choosing to leave Team Tut voluntarily -- I highly doubt she'd do it. I think she'd choose to retire rather than choose to leave Team Tut. I think Aliona learned her lesson when she left for AoP. I doubt she'd get the same level of PCS if she moved to a lesser-known team, and I think Aliona realized that she needs a very strict coach. Also, we all know that Aliona is super outgoing and social, and I think she really missed having a "girl gang" to train with. She won't have that elsewhere. And while I am highly skeptical about what kind of programs Daniil might choreograph for her, I do think that Eteri has made some absolutely brilliant programs for her (like Angel and Adios Nonino), and I am hopeful that Eteri could be inspired to create another masterpiece for her. :pray:

Watching Deniss Vasiljevs this season did make me wonder how Aliona would do in Stephane's group, but even if she could afford to do it, I think she would miss her family and friends in Moscow too much, and I'm not sure Stephane is enough of a disciplinarian to handle our very charming, but very emotional and willful, rebel. ;)

Separately, I wonder if Aliona still is interested in doing pairs, or if she has given that up completely... 🤔
I have to say, I really really enjoyed watching Roman Sadovsky perform at Skate Canada, and I think he and Aliona are both very expressive performers with excellent basics, so now I have this wild idea that they should do pairs together... It will never happen but I can dream! :devilish: :rofl:
 
Lena Radionova did an interview with Match TV recently (thanks again, Anastasia Panina!), and she talked about all the top Russian women.

She had nice things to say about everyone, but I especially liked her comments about our girl. ;)
GoogleTranslate:
- Alena is my great love, I can honestly say, although she has a difficult time now. She has a rebellious character, which I personally like. Such a skater is rare. We usually all have such correct, modest, docile girls. Alena is different - she is. Lively and bright. It is very interesting for me to look at her. Everyone has traumas, difficulties, a transitional age, but what Alena has - her charisma, sliding and choreography - will stay with her. For this, the audience loves her.
Yes, I completely agree with Lena! Aliona is my "great love" too, and I adore her "charisma, sliding and choreography"! :love:

I say again -- I would be thrilled if they ever got to work together on an EX program! :pray:
 
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