2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[Amei]

We all are very worried. I remember the Fed said they'd do daily test in Krasnoyarsk. But what are they going to do if someone gets positive result? Yegor Bazin and coach Denis Samokhin tested positive, what about his partner Elizaveta Khudaiberdiyeva, who must be in close contact with Yegor and the coach? Such a difficult situation they are all in.

Eteri team (including Sofia A and Adelia P) will be flying to Krasnoyarsk on Jan 26. Hope they take every precaution to protect the girls and the coaches.

Apparently there was not a bubble in Krasnoyarsk. Any skaters not there yet should quarantine elsewhere

 

[flanker]

We all are very worried. I remember the Fed said they'd do daily test in Krasnoyarsk. But what are they going to do if someone gets positive result? Yegor Bazin and coach Denis Samokhin tested positive, what about his partner Elizaveta Khudaiberdiyeva, who must be in close contact with Yegor and the coach? Such a difficult situation they are all in.

Eteri team (including Sofia A and Adelia P) will be flying to Krasnoyarsk on Jan 26. Hope they take every precaution to protect the girls and the coaches.

Khudaiberdieva just got married, maybe she has other matters to do now.

 

[brakes]

In the vid you can see there were more groups of athletes present at the videoconference. I presume the rooms were distributed according to the size of particular groups.

This is "Khrustalnyi" dance practice room with chairs inside. Location is inscribed at the bottom of the screen.

 

[lopsilceci]

Ow so Anna fell and it wasn't an interruption and Muravieva's step out was? That makes total sense xD



I am afraid that this one is subjective, I think that Muravieva is the best performer amongst current juniors and you will say that she is not, and we will never agree
She also jumped 3A and we know that the ultra-C element usually affects the PCS, Samo jumped it as well but for me she is till quite rough around the edges comparing to Mura.

You're talking about completely different competitions here. Can't compare Anna to Sofya M.
Muravyova got the same PCS as clean Akatyeva. How is that not overscored?

For me, I see Muravyova, Samodelkina and Petrosyan at pretty much the same level PCS wise.

 

[Paulipau]

You're talking about completely different competitions here. Can't compare Anna to Sofya M.
Muravyova got the same PCS as clean Akatyeva. How is that not overscored?

I wasn't comparing them, and I already said Mura was overscored.
I was merely reacting to the statement that fall doesn't interrupt the program but stepout does.

 

[lariko]

Muravyova got the same PCS as clean Akatyeva. How is that not overscored?

On national level, PCS is not capped based on any visible errors. Even on the international level, the visible error definition is rather nebulous. It doesn't say fall or pop, or imperfect landing. It just says something that detracts from the performance. The judges have a leeway. The judges see live performance that is often different. If they believe that Murav'eva's PCS is better, that's how they scored it. You can study the protocols to see if a particular judge appeared bias or have anomalous marks. If yes, you can point it out. If not, and the marks are ballpark the same among all the judges, then it's not a case of corruption, but the marks applied in a judged sport by a collegial decision.

 

[Ktriplelutz]

The difference between the PCS Russians receive in Russia, and the PCS Russians receive everywhere else is comical

 

[Jontor]

On national level, PCS is not capped based on any visible errors. Even on the international level, the visible error definition is rather nebulous. It doesn't say fall or pop, or imperfect landing. It just says something that detracts from the performance. The judges have a leeway. The judges see live performance that is often different. If they believe that Murav'eva's PCS is better, that's how they scored it. You can study the protocols to see if a particular judge appeared bias or have anomalous marks. If yes, you can point it out. If not, and the marks are ballpark the same among all the judges, then it's not a case of corruption, but the marks applied in a judged sport by a collegial decision.

And I say what I am always saying, the judges use the PCS just like they did in the 6.0 era.

 

[vorravorra]

Since when are PCS only about performance anyway? They have components which are not performance-dependent. If a skater has good skating skills and transitions, they have them even on a bad day.

Khudaiberdieva just got married, maybe she has other matters to do now.

Not married, just engaged.

 

[Scott512]

There are days I really like plants. People are just... not good.

I am now a fan of orchids and I love to see them come back to life after the buds die off.
Staying home a lot more since coronavirus
Started almost 2 years ago has given me a greener thumb that I used to have.

Samo has learned a very valuable lesson at a very young age. No doubt she means no harm in anything she says. I've said this for a few years I wish there were some kind of media training for these kids whether they make it big or not. They know how to escape they don't know how to deal with the media and journalists trying to pull information out of them that will make headlines.

Those that are going on this girl's Instagram page to leave nasty messages need to look at themselves in the mirror.

 

[Scott512]

Sofa Samodelkina is receiving threats because of her recent interview.

Threats? Or criticism?? If its threats you need to get the authorities involved.

Sofia deserves neither for obvious reasons. Hopefully when she activates her Instagram page to the public again there won't be these problems.

Skaters know how to skate coaches know how to coach. Parents know how to pare t. I think. I wish there were people there to train these kids and coaches on the media and how do best answer questions.

 

[lariko]

And I say what I am always saying, the judges use the PCS just like they did in the 6.0 era.

Yes, but there is a difference between a collegial decision of the judges with which a non-pro fan disagrees, and a judge who deliberately fudges the numbers—out of love or for reimbursement—and it is obvious in a protocol. Figure skating judging cannot be fair, but fair-ish… maybe? To me, Murav’yeva’s skating is more engaging, so in this case I agree with the judges, since nobody is penalized for anything short of a complete disaster on a national level.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

Are there any updates on Alena K? Is she back to training or pretty much done with skating?

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

I understand the strategy of Eteri for Alexandra Trusova with the triple axel in the short program. Some people may say : hey why she is putting triple axel because she fall on every attempt in the SP ? It's true.

But, Alexandra Trusova know and Eteri know that if she want to challenge Kamila Valieva and beat Kamila Valieva in the FS. Trusova need that triple axel if she want her score to be close to Kamila Valieva after the SP.

If Alexandra Trusova successfull land her first triple axel in the SP at the Olympic, she will probably not win the SP but she will be close to the SP score of Kamila.

I agree that it's a good risk. If she hits it, she's contending for gold. If she misses it, or does a 2A, she's contending for silver. Sasha could make up a small deficit in the LP, but even with 5 quads it will be hard to make up 10+ points when Kamila does 3 plus a 3A (with everything else she does great).

 

[Jontor]

Are there any updates on Alena K? Is she back to training or pretty much done with skating?

Nothing new what I know of. She did say a few weeks back that she would continue. I suspect that won't happen though...

 

[Dawn825]

For me, I see Muravyova, Samodelkina and Petrosyan at pretty much the same level PCS wise.

I dont see any reason for Akatyeva to be above them. Literally none of them were performing, they were all just trying not to fall. Understandable, of course. But so far none of these junior girls have taken my breath away the way Kostornaia or Medvedeva did the first time I saw them. I don't see anything special about Akatyeva yet compared to the Russian ladies that came before her. In my opinion she's got a long way to go before we need to hold her up as a PCS queen.

 

[JazzUp]

Threats? Or criticism?? If its threats you need to get the authorities involved.

there were no threats, and no criticism either - just people ridiculing her for the silly remarks that made her coach look like a complete idiot that doesn't know how to count points for the programmes

 

[Fluture]

there were no threats, and no criticism either - just people ridiculing her for the silly remarks that made her coach look like a complete idiot that doesn't know how to count points for the programmes

Ah, yes, of course. A 14-year old child made some "silly remarks", which completely justifies grown adults ridiculing/bullying her to the point where she feels she has to close her instagram account. That what you were trying to say?

 

[Scott512]

Are there any updates on Alena K? Is she back to training or pretty much done with skating?

She has a tricky hand finger type injuries and fractures. We have to let it heal fully and then she can come back spring or summer and hopefully make it to test skates. I think I saw a picture of Aliona recently with the cast off her right hand.

 

[Scott512]

Are the covid problems at the training camp in the Siberian city great enough to just send the TT girld and other negative testing olympic Russian skaters onto the Beijing bubble now?

Also for those Russian skaters and all athletes heading to the Olympics that test positive but are asymptomatic shouldn't they just quarantine for 5 days and then resume their athletic activities?

In America we have a famous lady skier test positive for Coronavirus the other day. I am sure she is going to the Olympics to compete unless she has major symptoms.