2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[McBibus]

Well if someone wanted her to feel like shit, he failed.
I’m happy and relieved that it doesn’t work and she still training like nothing happened

It's never like nothing happened.
It was the perfect time bomb.
Too late to substitute the skater in the team event and consequently on the individual.
Not to late to let her compete with a free mind even if it will prove to be fried air.
I do not believe in coincidences.

 

[Briananing]

Channel One video with Kami from today training



Hmmm, it seems like it dont allowed to play other then on YouTube

Also here Channel One video from yesterday training with Anya and Sasha - link

It s geoblock for me. Is it russia exclusive ?

 

[Scott512]

Well if someone wanted her to feel like shit, he failed.
I’m happy and relieved that it doesn’t work and she still training like nothing happened

But the situation is not over it's not resolved one way or the other it's just paused. All KV can do is prepare for the ladies event. But things are better for her today apparently than they were yesterday. But that can obviously change in a second.

 

[Lechat]

It's never like nothing happened.
It was the perfect time bomb.
Too late to substitute the skater in the team event and consequently on the individual.
Not to late to let her compete with a free mind even if it will prove to be fried air.
I do not believe in coincidences.

I think the same
why choosing the biggest event of a lifetime ?

 

[Lechat]

But the situation is not over it's not resolved one way or the other it's just paused. All KV can do is prepare for the ladies event. But things are better for her today apparently than they were yesterday. But that can obviously change in a second.

Yes it’s like walking on eggshells, everything can still change and I’m glad that she keeps training like nothing happened despite having a Damocles sword above the head

 

[Alex Fedorov]

It s geoblock for me. Is it russia exclusive ?

in any case, there is nothing special about the video. Just a practice session.

 

[macy]

apologies if this isn't supposed to be asked, but there's still no news? i thought a decision/statement was supposed to be made hours ago

 

[lariko]

It s geoblock for me. Is it russia exclusive ?

Yes, their internal content is always GB

 

[lariko]

apologies if this isn't supposed to be asked, but there's still no news? i thought a decision/statement was supposed to be made hours ago

The banner is still up on this website, so I assume that no official statement had been made. I think it will be difficult to miss.

 

[Scott512]

Yes it’s like walking on eggshells, everything can still change and I’m glad that she keeps training like nothing happened despite having a Damocles sword above the head

That some sword.

She needs another normal practice day tomorrow and then it's down to the wire for the ladies event. I wonder if there will be another interruption right before the event

 

[Scott512]

Just quickly for the posters on here wishing for Kamila to be disqualified so Liza can take her place (which she actually can't) or saying that Liza must be fuming back home:

Tuktamysheva just posted her support for Kamila on her Instagram:

"Hold on my dear, everything will be ok! ❤

Why isn't she in Beijing with the possibility of testing positive for coronavirus they would need an alternate and Liza is the alternate?
I guess they could always change Nastya from GEO to ROC if one of the girls caught covid.

Good luck heading to the ladies event. I hope you all stay healthy.

 

[Scott512]

Does anyone know the actual rules as far as handling a minor athlete by the ioc who has tested positive for something versus the handling and potential banning and removing the medals of an adult who has tested positive for a band substance?

I am under the impression that 15 year old KV will be treated much easier than if she was a 25 year old woman. I think I've even heard people say you cannot hold a minor to the same standard of penalty that you do and adult athlete.

 

[skatespin]

Does anyone know the actual rules as far as handling a minor athlete by the ioc who has tested positive for something versus the handling and potential banning and removing the medals of an adult who has tested positive for a band substance?

I am under the impression that 15 year old KV will be treated much easier than if she was a 25 year old woman. I think I've even heard people say you cannot hold a minor to the same standard of penalty that you do and adult athlete.

I would be interested to know if there if there is a difference in treatment too. However, regardless of the age of athlete, doping is unfair to competitors so it seems like some action would have to be taken?

 

[McBibus]

Why isn't she in Beijing with the possibility of testing positive for coronavirus they would need an alternate and Liza is the alternate?
I guess they could always change Nastya from GEO to ROC if one of the girls caught covid.

Good luck heading to the ladies event. I hope you all stay healthy.

Since accomodation are the big logistic problem in olympics substitute are not allowed on site.
They are usually just called if needed.
Anyway I don't think a substitution will be possibile since Kamila already skated in the team event and the total number or ROC skaters will be 4

 

[karina17]

The articles I've read seem to agree that her age just means the IOC will be less harsh on her with regards to sanction durations, plus her privacy is supposed to be more protected during the investigation, so they'll be reporting less.

I haven't found anything that suggests she might get any other leniency beyond that.

The IOC retroactively disqualified a minor athlete in the Youth Olympics in 2014 for testing positive for furosemide. No name given, even the gender wasn't specified, just that the sport was taekwondo. And that they were "sanctioned", but it wasn't even stated for how long.

The fact that Kamila is so young but so accomplished makes things complicated for them. If she weren't already famous, we wouldn't have heard of it and we certainly wouldn't know her name, and we wouldn't know her punishment either. They only confirmed it was her because the whole team event medal ceremony fiasco tied their hands. I don't know enough about sports in general to know if this really is the first time for such an accomplished person under 16 to test positive for doping, but it looks like we won't be able to find many precedent cases that would indicate her punishment since all the information is supposed to be hidden for minors. We just won't know.

 

[Amei]

Practice notes per Jackie, note practice was at 6:30am.

• Shcherbakova: 1Lz, 3Lz runthru (2A, 3F, 3Lz3T), 3Lo, 3F(turn), 3Lz(turn), 3Lz(e?turn), 3Lz3Lo, 3F3Lo, 3F1Eu3S, 3Lz3T, 3Lz, 3F, 2A, 3Lz3T
• Trusova: 3F(turn), 3F1Lo, 3F3Lo, 1A, 4T, runthru (3A(fall), 3F3T, 3Lz3T), 3A(fall), 1A, 1A, 3A(fall), 3A(turn), 4F, 2S, 4F, 4S(fall), 4F, 4S, 4T3T
• Valieva: 3S, 3S, 3T, 3Lo, 3Lo, 3Lz(ur,hangs on), 3Lz3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 2A, 2A, 2A, 2A, 3T, 4T1Eu3S, 4T(step)3S, 4T(step,hand), 4T3T, 3A, 4S

 

[Scott512]

Since accomodation are the big logistic problem in olympics substitute are not allowed on site.
They are usually just called if needed.
Anyway I don't think a substitution will be possibile since Kamila already skated in the team event and the total

You make a good point but it is a pandemic and you need to have alternates ready to go.

Hopefully they get the ladies competition in with no problems and then everybody can go home.

 

[Scott512]

Practice notes per Jackie, note practice was at 6:30am.

• Shcherbakova: 1Lz, 3Lz runthru (2A, 3F, 3Lz3T), 3Lo, 3F(turn), 3Lz(turn), 3Lz(e?turn), 3Lz3Lo, 3F3Lo, 3F1Eu3S, 3Lz3T, 3Lz, 3F, 2A, 3Lz3T
• Trusova: 3F(turn), 3F1Lo, 3F3Lo, 1A, 4T, runthru (3A(fall), 3F3T, 3Lz3T), 3A(fall), 1A, 1A, 3A(fall), 3A(turn), 4F, 2S, 4F, 4S(fall), 4F, 4S, 4T3T
• Valieva: 3S, 3S, 3T, 3Lo, 3Lo, 3Lz(ur,hangs on), 3Lz3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 2A, 2A, 2A, 2A, 3T, 4T1Eu3S, 4T(step)3S, 4T(step,hand), 4T3T, 3A, 4S

What is it with these crazy times I mean they never skate at that early in the morning do they?

Well it's about 10:40 a.m. Beijing time are all TT girls there again practicing?

 

[Amei]

What is it with these crazy times I mean they never skate at that early in the morning do they?

Well it's about 10:40 a.m. Beijing time are all TT girls there again practicing?

My guess is they have to limit the number of participants on the ice for covid reasons.

 

[karina17]

What is it with these crazy times I mean they never skate at that early in the morning do they?

Well it's about 10:40 a.m. Beijing time are all TT girls there again practicing?

They made most of the event timings early so that NBC could get their prime time on the other side of the globe. Practice times had to follow. Same issue in Pyeongchang 2018, athletes complained that the early timings were messing with them and causing them to perform badly, but I guess money always triumphs.

The Olympics coloured schedule says the next practice for them is 1:05pm (the Russian women are group 4), which means they should be in practice right now.