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This! It's the only thing that makes sense. They won their medals fair and square so give it to them, give them the ceremony they deserve. The potential upgrade can arrive by post later and at least this way they won't be robbed of their Olympic moment.I hope both the USA and Japan get their team medals at the Olympics. If the medals do get upgraded, I'm sure both teams will be happy to send them back to be upgraded!!
I thought about this too.I don't imagine it has been done before (or is even allowed?!), but I think only the Silver and Bronze team medals should be awarded. Those athletes shouldn't be deprived of their Olympic moment because the top finishers didn't play by the rules. I'm sure it won't happen, just wishful thinking on my part.
You know, the ROC athletes, apart from Kamila, could argue they also deserve theirs because it's not even sure what would happen here... as a matter of fact, don't the USA request to get their silver? What does that imply? We will take this now and wait in case it's upgraded?I thought about this too.
Don't penalize those who are not under review and don't reward those who still are.
That's why I like DonnaR's solution above.I disagree. I understand the athletes want to have the ceremony at the Olympics, but do the Americans really want to give the Gold medal to Russians? Especially sice Russia might get DQ? And in that case, if Russia gets their medals now, they will never return it. Czech female biathlon relay finisbed fourth at Sochi. But then the Silver Russian really got DQ due to doping years later, so The Czech Republic would get Bronze. They still don't have it. Russia refuses to return the medals and the standings were not upgraded.
I'm sorry, but was it "Americans" who put years of work to be at Olympics or Athletes? The decision was made by people who won it, not some people who sit in front of TV and think they have right to decide what's best for athletes and that's how it should be.I disagree. I understand the athletes want to have the ceremony at the Olympics, but do the Americans really want to give the Gold medal to Russians? Especially sice Russia might get DQ? And in that case, if Russia gets their medals now, they will never return it. Czech female biathlon relay finisbed fourth at Sochi. But then the Silver Russian really got DQ due to doping years later, so The Czech Republic would get Bronze. They still don't have it. Russia refuses to return the medals and the standings were not upgraded.
I think the fact that this happened in the team event matters.You know, the ROC athletes, apart from Kamila, could argue they also deserve theirs because it's not even sure what would happen here... as a matter of fact, don't the USA request to get their silver? What does that imply? We will take this now and wait in case it's upgraded?
Debbi Wilkes event was in 1964, she had to wait until 1987...Her partner had already died in 1981.I have the feeling the IOC will want to do this ceremony ONLY once, when it's right, with a full, definitive podium no upgrading later. Right now, it's putting pressure on making a decision they cannot make about the results of the team event. I don't think that's fair honestly...I still sympathize for the athletes...
yup i know... i posted extensively in the doping thread about athletes shortchanged of their olympic moment. I totally am sympathetic about it... There are many cases like that. I feel for the athletes as I said, at the same time, there is enough scandal around it and I don't think we need an incomplete podium on top of it... Does the ISU even have a rule about DQ in the team event if ONE athlete is caught? Anyways, I am going to bedDebbi Wilkes event was in 1964, she had to wait until 1987...Her partner had already died in 1981.
i haven't slept to watch the pairs, maybe I will "get" things differently after a few hours of rest.It's a tough situation. I appreciate us having a calm discussion about it. Have a good sleep.yup i know... i posted extensively in the doping thread about athletes shortchanged of their olympic moment. I totally am sympathetic about it... There are many cases like that. I feel for the athletes as I said, at the same time, there is enough scandal around it and I don't think we need an incomplete podium on top of it... Does the ISU even have a rule about DQ in the team event if ONE athlete is caught? Anyways, I am going to bedi haven't slept to watch the pairs, maybe I will "get" things differently after a few hours of rest.