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Team USA files Appeal to receive medal prior to Closing Ceremony

I hope both the USA and Japan get their team medals at the Olympics. If the medals do get upgraded, I'm sure both teams will be happy to send them back to be upgraded!!
This! It's the only thing that makes sense. They won their medals fair and square so give it to them, give them the ceremony they deserve. The potential upgrade can arrive by post later and at least this way they won't be robbed of their Olympic moment.
 
The issue here is that the IOC does not want to give out the medals because it doesn't want to give ROC their medals. There is a strong negative narrative in rewarding a team that includes an athlete positive for doping. I feel for the USA and the Japanese athletes but I doubt it will happen, unless the IOC decides not to award the gold medals at this point... The Canadian 4X100 relay team just got the news of an upgrade on their bronze to silver due to a positive test in Tokyo from a GBR athlete... this sucks but it will take time ...
 
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I don't imagine it has been done before (or is even allowed?!), but I think only the Silver and Bronze team medals should be awarded. Those athletes shouldn't be deprived of their Olympic moment because the top finishers didn't play by the rules. I'm sure it won't happen, just wishful thinking on my part.
 
I don't imagine it has been done before (or is even allowed?!), but I think only the Silver and Bronze team medals should be awarded. Those athletes shouldn't be deprived of their Olympic moment because the top finishers didn't play by the rules. I'm sure it won't happen, just wishful thinking on my part.
I thought about this too.
Don't penalize those who are not under review and don't reward those who still are.
 
I'd love to hear from Debbi Wilkes of Canada on this as she went through this situation many years ago in the Olympic Pairs final of 1964. You may know Debbi from her commentary on CBC & CTV.

"The two originally won the bronze medal after Marika Kilius and Hans-Jürgen Bäumler were disqualified and the medals were redistributed. In 1987, Kilius and Baumler's disqualification was overturned on appeal but the medals were not redistributed again instead Kilius/Baumler and Wilkes/Revell are considered co-silver medalists. "
per Olympics Wiki
 
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I disagree. I understand the athletes want to have the ceremony at the Olympics, but do the Americans really want to give the Gold medal to Russians? Especially sice Russia might get DQ? And in that case, if Russia gets their medals now, they will never return it. Czech female biathlon relay finisbed fourth at Sochi. But then the Silver Russian really got DQ due to doping years later, so The Czech Republic would get Bronze. They still don't have it. Russia refuses to return the medals and the standings were not upgraded.
 
I thought about this too.
Don't penalize those who are not under review and don't reward those who still are.
You know, the ROC athletes, apart from Kamila, could argue they also deserve theirs because it's not even sure what would happen here... as a matter of fact, don't the USA request to get their silver? What does that imply? We will take this now and wait in case it's upgraded?
 
I disagree. I understand the athletes want to have the ceremony at the Olympics, but do the Americans really want to give the Gold medal to Russians? Especially sice Russia might get DQ? And in that case, if Russia gets their medals now, they will never return it. Czech female biathlon relay finisbed fourth at Sochi. But then the Silver Russian really got DQ due to doping years later, so The Czech Republic would get Bronze. They still don't have it. Russia refuses to return the medals and the standings were not upgraded.
That's why I like DonnaR's solution above.
 
I disagree. I understand the athletes want to have the ceremony at the Olympics, but do the Americans really want to give the Gold medal to Russians? Especially sice Russia might get DQ? And in that case, if Russia gets their medals now, they will never return it. Czech female biathlon relay finisbed fourth at Sochi. But then the Silver Russian really got DQ due to doping years later, so The Czech Republic would get Bronze. They still don't have it. Russia refuses to return the medals and the standings were not upgraded.
I'm sorry, but was it "Americans" who put years of work to be at Olympics or Athletes? The decision was made by people who won it, not some people who sit in front of TV and think they have right to decide what's best for athletes and that's how it should be.
 
I have the feeling the IOC will want to do this ceremony ONLY once, when it's right, with a full, definitive podium no upgrading later. Right now, it's putting pressure on making a decision they cannot make about the results of the team event. I don't think that's fair honestly... :) I still sympathize for the athletes...
 
You know, the ROC athletes, apart from Kamila, could argue they also deserve theirs because it's not even sure what would happen here... as a matter of fact, don't the USA request to get their silver? What does that imply? We will take this now and wait in case it's upgraded?
I think the fact that this happened in the team event matters.
Also a bird in the hand is worth more than a bird in the bush...
 
I have the feeling the IOC will want to do this ceremony ONLY once, when it's right, with a full, definitive podium no upgrading later. Right now, it's putting pressure on making a decision they cannot make about the results of the team event. I don't think that's fair honestly... :) I still sympathize for the athletes...
Debbi Wilkes event was in 1964, she had to wait until 1987...Her partner had already died in 1981.
 
Debbi Wilkes event was in 1964, she had to wait until 1987...Her partner had already died in 1981.
yup i know... i posted extensively in the doping thread about athletes shortchanged of their olympic moment. I totally am sympathetic about it... There are many cases like that. I feel for the athletes as I said, at the same time, there is enough scandal around it and I don't think we need an incomplete podium on top of it... Does the ISU even have a rule about DQ in the team event if ONE athlete is caught? Anyways, I am going to bed ;) i haven't slept to watch the pairs, maybe I will "get" things differently after a few hours of rest.
 
yup i know... i posted extensively in the doping thread about athletes shortchanged of their olympic moment. I totally am sympathetic about it... There are many cases like that. I feel for the athletes as I said, at the same time, there is enough scandal around it and I don't think we need an incomplete podium on top of it... Does the ISU even have a rule about DQ in the team event if ONE athlete is caught? Anyways, I am going to bed ;) i haven't slept to watch the pairs, maybe I will "get" things differently after a few hours of rest.
It's a tough situation. I appreciate us having a calm discussion about it. Have a good sleep.
 
It's not going to happen, because of Kamilagate. A final decision re her punishment has to happen before medals are given out. As other posters have said, once Russia gets its hands on the gold medals, they won't return them.
 
Honestly, I think it's a gambit to get the gold medal here and now.

And it's not a bad play. I don't think it will be successful, but it's worth a shot, especially since Bach seems determined that Valieva never even touch a medal.
 
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