2023 World Figure Skating Championships Men's Free Skate

[CoyoteChris]

Wow...so much negativity and sour grapes....
I am so glad I am into the performance art.
Jason, you are the best...you are what the art of figure skating is all about....

 

[kan01]

Don't want to be mean, but Malinin's face (and his dad's) when the points were showed was something. Almost like, ”Wait, I won't be champion? But, but I landed a 4A and a gazillion of quads..."
It must be sad to work so hard in figure skating and then seeing bronze medal as a failure, no joy after all the work...And then the fans complaining instead of congratulating or feeling joy. Many skaters who only reach, say, top 10 appear happier with their careers than some of these quad gods and goddesses.
And I blame the inflated hype about the most revolutions always and only gold counts (the toxic competitiveness culture)-when a casual viewer doesn't even distinguish between a tripe and a quadruple...
At least that's how I've seen it and see it.
At the end of the day not many people will remember, "Oh, this skater got this many medals, this many gold, this many this, this many that", but skaters like Jason Brown will forever be iconic and superstars in whichever rink they set foot in and seeing Jason so happy so many times competition after competition when the points were announced is really exciting.
(Sorry for my English)

 

[el henry]

To continue the story of gratitude for good skates, regardless of medals:

Two skaters very happy with their long program (and neither won a medal) congratulate each other.

I am here for the Jason-Kévin friendship of this worlds (and Kazuki is a sportsman too)

 

[yesterday]

If the schedule is correct, I will be rewatching 1.5 hours of Mens FS in about 15 min on German Eurosport. This will be totally different from watching an ISU world feed (and ofc it's not live and I know the results, have seen the skates..).
The two guys there are .. special and often a bit exhausting to listen to.

But I'm curious how many / which skaters they will show and how the two react to certain judging

 

[snd]

That was a good skate for Selevko the Younger. He kept the pops to a minimum.

his speed and musicality were on point, too. should've gotten slightly higher PCS

 

[Jeanie19]

To continue the story of gratitude for good skates, regardless of medals:

Two skaters very happy with their long program (and neither won a medal) congratulate each other.

I am here for the Jason-Kévin friendship of this worlds (and Kazuki is a sportsman too)

I just watched this like ten times in a row.

 

[Jeanie19]

his speed and musicality were on point, too. should've gotten slightly higher PCS

I saw him live at Skate America and Mihhail has good speed, spins and musicality. He deserves higher pc's.

 

[Spiralgraph]

Ilia wasn't robbed of anything. The sport is not ice jumping, it is figure skating. Ilia has the basics, I have seen him skate live, he is fast, he is energetic, (the All American boy ) his spins are now actually good.

But he has ignored his performance and skating aspects at his peril. He was not equal to the other skaters in PCS today because his skills were not up to the task at hand. He admits in his post skate interview he has ignored his performance in favor of jumps. I hope he, and more importantly his team, learn from this.

Uno and Cha were the better skaters today. No questions asked.

Agree completely. In a strange way Malinin and his team are thinking like Plushenko and his team, that multiple quads alone can surpass anything else.

Ilya has a ways to go to become a complete skater not just a very talented jumping bean. Nathan Chen transformed himself and developed into a sensational skater. With hard work, better choreography and a little more maturity Ilya can become a well rounded skater who can be a world champion too. I hope healthy competition with other US skaters like Camden, Andrew, Maxim et al., prompts Ilya to keep improving his "artistic" side.

 

[Jeanie19]

Incredible coincidence? Nah...

Morisi was, to put it bluntly, difficult to watch. Uninspired, dull, just no "there" there. Of course, he suffered in my eyes by skating after my beloved Andrew Torgashev, whose artistry and passion shine through even in a bad skate.

Daniel is not putting it together at all this year. He did not put it together in this comp. Daniel is best when his passion matches his admittedly odd jumping technique. I didn't see that today. Many other skaters outshone him.

I haven't watched Livintsiev, so I can't speak to him.

You need to watch Livintsiev, both his short and long, he was really good. One thing that really stands out.. Good posture.

 

[yesterday]

If the schedule is correct, I will be rewatching 1.5 hours of Mens FS in about 15 min on German Eurosport. This will be totally different from watching an ISU world feed (and ofc it's not live and I know the results, have seen the skates..).
The two guys there are .. special and often a bit exhausting to listen to.

But I'm curious how many / which skaters they will show and how the two react to certain judging

lol. Jinxed it. They chose to show Judo now

 

[snd]

malinin looks so disappointed with his score but he got better PCS than selevko, litvintsev, the israeli lad, sota yamamoto and a number of other gents who should be way, way ahead of him in PCS

just sayin'

 

[cailuj365]

Don't want to be mean, but Malinin's face (and his dad's) when the points were showed was something. Almost like, ”Wait, I won't be champion? But, but I landed a 4A and a gazillion of quads..."
It must be sad to work so hard in figure skating and then seeing bronze medal as a failure, no joy after all the work...And then the fans complaining instead of congratulating or feeling joy. Many skaters who only reach, say, top 10 appear happier with their careers than some of these quad gods and goddesses.
And I blame the inflated hype about the most revolutions always and only gold counts (the toxic competitiveness culture)-when a casual viewer doesn't even distinguish between a tripe and a quadruple...
At least that's how I've seen it and see it.
At the end of the day not many people will remember, "Oh, this skater got this many medals, this many gold, this many this, this many that", but skaters like Jason Brown will forever be iconic and superstars in whichever rink they set foot in and seeing Jason so happy so many times competition after competition when the points were announced is really exciting.
(Sorry for my English)

I'm not sure if Ilia thought he could be champion, but I think he knew that it was a messy performance and he was more disappointed that he wasn't able to hang on to silver. He already looked somewhat disappointed after he finished skating. I think he has had a lot to learn from this competition and how he has been scored, but he seemed positive and had the right mindset of what he needs to work on for next season during the press conference.

I really hope Malinin can really take his skating to the next level over the next few years. The potential is all there, but he has to have the right people and programs to guide him there. He also has to have the technical content that he can feel confident about hitting consistently and cleanly with high GOE rather than what he did today.

 

[DancingCactus]

As many others have written, thus must have been the best final group in Men ever of at least in a long time. No falls, one pop, a weird spin and some ugly landings by mostly one skater, but 5 out of 6 had absolutely amazing skating skills and performances. So much going on...

- Jason becoming fifth with no quads and simply otherworldly skating. I could die for that split jump.
- Keegan doing the weirdest looking mistake on a spin ever and nailing his jumps...and saying goodbye to such an amazing crowd...
- Kevin finally skating clean
- Jun finally skating this fantastic program flawlessly. I bet on him so many times this season and it never worked out. This tine I had him in 5th or something and he had the skate of his career...And stretching deeper and deeper into that Ina Bauer...
- Shoma staying calm and nailing his jumps (mostly) despite his injury and being ethereal as always
- I guess Ilia fit into the final group because of the 4A, but his jumps were ugly and his skating skills aren't up to scratch. Even his costume choices are not doing him any favors.

I'm so glad the judges rewarded skaters for what they're good at and sent a message by not handing out points just because of quads. To get fair, they duf that all season, and I hope this trend continues.

I have to download this whole event from YouTube somehow to rewatch whenever I want.

 

[liv]

Malinin better than Cha? Not today. Cha was amazing in every respect and if he had ended up winning I would have been very fine with that too. His performance was the skate of the night for me. Give me a swooping, gorgeous 4s landed on the musical highlight over a scratchy 4lz any day.

Neither Grassl nor Malinin have outstanding skating skills.. there is no ease of movement. It looks hard when they skate. How you get from jump to jump should be important, not just the jump. These things take time, but can be done.

The emphasis the last few years seemed to be quads and quads, less reward for skating and mastery of edges... but this comp was a reaffirmation that figure skating is not just jumping. Top skaters should master all the skills on the blade.

 

[yesterday]

.And stretching deeper and deeper into that Ina Bauer...

I was thinking if Jun had hair like Deniss he could swipe the ice there

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

You need to watch Livintsiev, both his short and long, he was really good. One thing that really stands out.. Good posture.

Litvintsev did great. He was a bit of a victim of circumstance this season and had to miss opportunities to show himself in front of the judges. His PCS will come along again when he gets more exposure. So it has always been in figure skating, and so it will be for the foreseeable future - no conspiracy theory needed.
I for my part look forward to seeing more of him next season - not least because I'm a huge fan of the work of his coach Vika Volchkova, four-time European bronze medallist for those who didn't know her.

 

[Jeanie19]

Litvintsev did great. He was a bit of a victim of circumstance this season and had to miss opportunities to show himself in front of the judges. His PCS will come along again when he gets more exposure. So it has always been in figure skating, and so it will be for the foreseeable future - no conspiracy theory needed.
I for my part look forward to seeing more of him next season - not least because I'm a huge fan of the work of his coach Vika Volchkova, four-time European bronze medallist for those who didn't know her.

I love his short program so much, I hope he keeps it for next year, we only saw it a couple of times.

 

[Andrea82]

Eight 10.00s:

6 to Jason Brown (Composition from the Korean judge; Presentation by Turkish, German, Spanish, Korean and Austrian judge)
1 to Aymoz (Presentation from the Spanish judge)
1 to Cha (Presentation from the Korean judge)

 

[slider11]

I thought Malinin took his scores rather well-he looked disappointed but not angry or confused. Raf looked angry but he always does unless his skaters wins.

 

[Olympic]

PCS was correct in re Malinin, but he will improve in time.