Tommy James and the Shondells, 1967. Who is this Tiffany person and why did she cover it?
I do think the Tiffany/Tiffany connection is cute.
Future dialoge in ID:
"So, you're basically skating to four seasons? No. Can't choose that."
"But it was recorded in the 80s, it's an 80s cover?!"
i wasn't seriously saying anyone should skate on 80s cover of baroque greatest hits. In any case, at this point, one could just ask Artificial intelligence to create the 4 seasons in any style they wish .. and voilà
damn it @CaroLiza_fan ! now i have to explain twice that i was just joking.
And anyway, Vivaldi and his seasons are such an old warhorse it would really be a kindness to put the whole year's worth out to pasture. The Bezics skated to Autumn back at the beginning of the 70s (speaking as someone who once drew to skate right after them the year they used it. Don't remember what competition it was, but do remember the music and wishing we'd chosen it.)damn it @CaroLiza_fan ! now i have to explain twice that i was just joking.
I've still failed to find where the ISU dictates the pattern dance element for Juniors. I'm thinking Rocker Foxtrot but ...
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Brilliant! Thank you. I'm sure Ashlie and Atl have this covered - or at least I hope their coaches do! All I have to worry about is the costuming...Yep, it's the Rocker Foxtrot.
It's in the PDF I linked to a few posts ago, in the first row of the table directly below the paragraph I quoted.
https://www.isu.org/inside-isu/isu-communications/communications/31243-isu-communication-2560/file (top of page 2)
Hope this helps (or, should I say, I hope this helps Ashlie and Atl!
CaroLiza_fan
Tommy James and the Shondells, 1967. Who is this Tiffany person and why did she cover it?
So, I'm interpreting this as yes, you can't do '80s covers of songs released before the '80s. But for music released in the '80s, re-mastering of source material is allowed.The videos I linked to are only recently recorded (I don't know about the one you linked to). But, it started me thinking "does it have to be music released in the 80's, or can it be music done in the style of the 80's?" So, I checked the ISU Announcement, and this is what it said:
"The theme selected for the Rhythm Dances for both Junior and Senior for the season 2023/24 is “Music and Feeling of the Eighties”. Any music is possible provided it was originally released in the decade of the 1980s. The couple should demonstrate through dance the culture and feeling/essence of this decade. The selected music may be remastered. The Rhythm Dance should NOT be skated in the style of a Free Dance. The couple must use dance movements and dance holds to interpret the chosen music from this decade."Source: https://www.isu.org/inside-isu/isu-communications/communications/31243-isu-communication-2560/file (top of page 2)
So, recently recorded synthesiser versions of warhorses release before the 80's or since would not be allowed.
The "originally released" part does raise alarm bells. To me, that sounds like they are not allowing 80's covers of earlier songs. So, for example, Tiffany's cover of "I Think We're Alone Now" that @labgoat suggested yesterday, would not get through.
But, the mention of remastered versions may mean that my suggestion of the 2005 accoustic version of "Hier Kommt Alex" by Die Toten Hosen may be allowed after all.
Oh, I wish the ISU could make things clearer when they write the rules!
CaroLiza_fan
the rules may not please all but they make sense. If the possibilities are too large, you can no longer really "control" the theme imposed to skaters. Just the joke I gave about Vivaldi's "cover". Sure, one can hear the 80s but you cannot really remove the baroque from it. It's there. I hear it. I still hear classical music. 80s original music wouldn't sound like that. I mean, they were generous enough already : I would have only allowed original music composed in the 80s.
the rules may not please all but they make sense. If the possibilities are too large, you can no longer really "control" the theme imposed to skaters. Just the joke I gave about Vivaldi's "cover". Sure, one can hear the 80s but you cannot really remove the baroque from it. It's there. I hear it. I still hear classical music. 80s original music wouldn't sound like that. I mean, they were generous enough already : I would have only allowed original music composed in the 80s.
On a side note, everyone complains all the time about the covers, and now people complain because some of them are not allowed?
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Well that is too bad, could have been fun. I guess I am just hoping to see Jon & Tiff surface again with their fantastic energy and her fabulous hair. The 80s theme seems like a great fit for them.
Anothe rule is that It also must be depicting the 80s (so Grease for example wouldn't be allowed, as it doesn't depict the 80s era).
