Ladies SP

[harmy18]

YuNa's Flip was just perfect this morning at COC. She has never changed the way how she jump FLIP; you must see her EDGE, not her ankle after her toe pick. Edge-jumps are all about EDGE, right?

Do you know, even Mao, well known Flutz jumper, looks like LIPPER depending on the angle of camera? If you see her edge and then you'll know she is jumpping FLIP, but on some camera, her ankle is bent outside. BUT none wants "e" on her flip because she cannot be a lipper with her flow before her flip jump.

EDGE?? I don't quite get ur point??

I always recognise mao's flutz by the moment she picked her toe up, thers's an obvious inside egde, so she flutz, but when she did flip, it's also obvious an inside edge...........
As to yuna, tonight strangely, there's a slightly outside egde of yuna's flip, it's different from what I saw in SA. I think you can refer to her COC sp. That's why I meaned her flip was worse than she did in SA.

anyway, her 3F-3T is NOT ur, I just find it hard to understand why some guys keep on criticising her powerful jumps

 

[chocola]

fiercemao reminds me of our long lost buddy Tiara.

 

[MissIzzy]

Who says there's a conspiracy here? Maybe the technical controller at this event is convinced Yu-Na lips and a few other controllers are convinced she doesn't, just like all the people here. Mind you, I don't have the eyes to even catch most underrotations, let alone edge mistakes, so I can't offer an opinion on the matter at hand, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if everyone involved was just seeing what they wanted to see when they looked at Yu-Na's flip.
But hey, maybe when technical controllers all meet for a drink, they get into angry arguments about whether Yu-Na lips or not. And then maybe they grab laptops and go grumbling to YouTube to argue the matter(and then grumble some more because all the videos have been pulled because of the copyright)

 

[bekalc]

Who says there's a conspiracy here? Maybe the technical controller at this event is convinced Yu-Na lips and a few other controllers are convinced she doesn't, just like all the people here. Mind you, I don't have the eyes to even catch most underrotations, let alone edge mistakes, so I can't offer an opinion on the matter at hand, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if everyone involved was just seeing what they wanted to see when they looked at Yu-Na's flip.
But hey, maybe when technical controllers all meet for a drink, they get into angry arguments about whether Yu-Na lips or not. And then maybe they grab laptops and go grumbling to YouTube to argue the matter(and then grumble some more because all the videos have been pulled because of the copyright)

LOL!!!! I think a lot of us are well not necessarily the ones to judge this matter because we are biased. Myself included

 

[Love_Skate]

(and then grumble some more because all the videos have been pulled because of the copyright)

And they came to watch nothing but malicously fabricated clips because they are really User-Created-Contents not against copyright and finally survived.

 

[Wrlmy]

Who says there's a conspiracy here? Maybe the technical controller at this event is convinced Yu-Na lips and a few other controllers are convinced she doesn't, just like all the people here. Mind you, I don't have the eyes to even catch most underrotations, let alone edge mistakes, so I can't offer an opinion on the matter at hand, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if everyone involved was just seeing what they wanted to see when they looked at Yu-Na's flip.
But hey, maybe when technical controllers all meet for a drink, they get into angry arguments about whether Yu-Na lips or not. And then maybe they grab laptops and go grumbling to YouTube to argue the matter(and then grumble some more because all the videos have been pulled because of the copyright)

 

[HCOSurfer]

Who says there's a conspiracy here? Maybe the technical controller at this event is convinced Yu-Na lips and a few other controllers are convinced she doesn't, just like all the people here. Mind you, I don't have the eyes to even catch most underrotations, let alone edge mistakes, so I can't offer an opinion on the matter at hand, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if everyone involved was just seeing what they wanted to see when they looked at Yu-Na's flip.
But hey, maybe when technical controllers all meet for a drink, they get into angry arguments about whether Yu-Na lips or not. And then maybe they grab laptops and go grumbling to YouTube to argue the matter(and then grumble some more because all the videos have been pulled because of the copyright)

Best post in this thread

 

[bekalc]

Yeah I'm trying to find if the Yu-na fans were so willing to scream unfairness when Mao (for example) got her 3/3 downgraded at the GPF (could it have cost her the GPF title)...

I'm willing to let the technical panel decide these matters because I'm no expert.

 

[fiercemao]

anyway, her 3F-3T is NOT ur, I just find it hard to understand why some guys keep on criticising her powerful jumps

No. I am not saying her 3f+3t at this event was URed. I am saying her 3f+3t at Skate America was very suspicious.

 

[bekalc]

No. I am not saying her 3f+3t at this event was URed. I am saying her 3f+3t at Skate America was very suspicious.

Scott replayed it and said she was just barely around... But yeah.. Hopefully this is just under training.

 

[harmy18]

Yeah I'm trying to find if the Yu-na fans were so willing to scream unfairness when Mao (for example) got her 3/3 downgraded at the GPF (could it have cost her the GPF title)...

I'm willing to let the technical panel decide these matters because I'm no expert.

I think they might probably cheer for the fairness of the technical panel, whilst mao's fans were crying for unfairness

then comes another 'battle' on YT

 

[bekalc]

I think they might probably cheer for the fairness of the technical panel, whilst mao's fans were crying for unfairness

then comes another 'battle' on YT

Oh and we will have the fun of everyone analayzing Mao's new improved lutz...

 

[harmy18]

Oh and we will have the fun of everyone analayzing Mao's new improved lutz...

:chorus: sounds really intersting next week

 

[HCOSurfer]

Did anyone else think that Ashley's spiral and layback were SO much better than they were last season?

 

[Love_Skate]

No. I am not saying her 3f+3t at this event was URed. I am saying her 3f+3t at Skate America was very suspicious.

I finally conclude that you have no intention to continue the argument with me. Ok, FIERCEmao, next time, I hope you be more FIERCE than now in debate as you are in bashing Yuna.

And, I will consider you as who I said I will have to do. Sad.. really sad.

 

[R.D.]

Who says there's a conspiracy here? Maybe the technical controller at this event is convinced Yu-Na lips and a few other controllers are convinced she doesn't, just like all the people here. Mind you, I don't have the eyes to even catch most underrotations, let alone edge mistakes, so I can't offer an opinion on the matter at hand, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if everyone involved was just seeing what they wanted to see when they looked at Yu-Na's flip.
But hey, maybe when technical controllers all meet for a drink, they get into angry arguments about whether Yu-Na lips or not. And then maybe they grab laptops and go grumbling to YouTube to argue the matter(and then grumble some more because all the videos have been pulled because of the copyright)

Does nothing to eliminate the BIAS though.

 

[ks777]

Did anyone else think that Ashley's spiral and layback were SO much better than they were last season?

I can't find Ashley's SP, where did you see it? I so want to see!!

 

[fiercemao]

Scott replayed it and said she was just barely around... But yeah.. Hopefully this is just under training.

I don't believe this has anything to do with 'under training'. The height of her jumps is amazing, however, she's slow to get the blade around even her body position has finished rotating 3 times. So she will be prone to UR even if strictly speaking, the completion of her rotations in air is far better than many female skaters.

I'm not an expert, but it sounds awfully like Mirai Nagashu's technique.

 

[HCOSurfer]

I can't find Ashley's SP, where did you see it? I so want to see!!

You can see it on icenetwork if you have an account. Hopefully it'll be uploaded onto youtube soon.

 

[bekalc]

I don't believe this has anything to do with 'under training'. The height of her jumps is amazing, however, she's slow to get the blade around even her body position has finished rotating 3 times. So she will be prone to UR even if strictly speaking, the completion of her rotations in air is far better than many female skaters.

I'm not an expert, but it sounds awfully like Mirai Nagashu's technique.

Maybe your "no expert" statement means you shouldn't be commenting at all. At least on if something should be downgraded.