2025 CS Cranberry Cup Senior Men Free Skate

[labgoat]

Kai started out strong and interesting, but often loses steam and control in the latter part of the program. I predict the last three US men will be scored as a cluster.

 

[labgoat]

Aah weird fall! Hopefully he didn't get hurt

Gave me Jeremy Abbott vibes for a second

 

[yelyoh]

Sorry but Liam does not deserve higher CO than Tomoki!!!!

 

[Kris135]

This is crazy Kai has a golden opportunity to really stand out and starting get noticed for international assignments and he blew it and the door was clearly open for him after the last 2 US skaters.

 

[elektra blue]

last group after Zamboni

 

[Lamente Ariane]

Creep is in a way like Send In The Clowns, you need that soft, unexaggerated sadness delivered with control and restraint for the song to be good, and a performance to those songs should also follow suit. Sadly so many covers and thus so many programs do not, at this rate we'll have to be happy with getting someone who can actually sing

Interesting to note with Send In The Clowns, Sondheim wrote it specifically for Glynis Johns (the original Desiree) taking into account that she had trouble with breath control and sustaining notes. Which is why it's a series of short phrases, not meant to be sustained. He wrote once that he was completely baffled that so many "first rate" singers wanted to cover it when they could've covered any number of his other ballads.

Edit: her version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DxzFXKDIg

 

[yelyoh]

Kai is often inconsistent.

Interesting to note with Send In The Clowns, Sondheim wrote it specifically for Glynis Johns (the original Desiree) taking into account that she had trouble with breath control and sustaining notes. Which is why it's a series of short phrases, not meant to be sustained. He wrote once that he was completely baffled that so many "first rate" singers wanted to cover it when they could've covered any number of his other ballads.

Yes and for her very limited range. But it's Sondheim and he wrote such good music. I love doing The Ladies Who Lunch and I'm male.

 

[Kris135]

Well we know Jacob just has to beat 201anfd change to most likely get the skate America to host spot

 

[yelyoh]

LOL someone's butt immortalized in a freeze frame.

 

[snowflake]

last group after Zamboni

exciting group

 

[labgoat]

my stream is frozen

 

[elektra blue]

the stream just died on Isabeau's back...

 

[yelyoh]

Well we know Jacob just has to beat 201anfd change to most likely get the skate America to host spot

Yeah I mean three Canadilan Jr men just did it.

 

[Lamente Ariane]

And back again (the stream, not the competition)

 

[Ichatdelune]

Interesting to note with Send In The Clowns, Sondheim wrote it specifically for Glynis Johns (the original Desiree) taking into account that she had trouble with breath control and sustaining notes. Which is why it's a series of short phrases, not meant to be sustained. He wrote once that he was completely baffled that so many "first rate" singers wanted to cover it when they could've covered any number of his other ballads.

Sondheim, bless his soul in heaven, should have known that the tightly packed melancholy and regret in those short phrases would attract performers of all kinds, if I may say so. Not the best comparison but I think it's like how Leonard Cohen's songs are almost never covered with anything similar to his original low, resigned, almost noteless tone and manner, those singers cover the songs because they're attracted to the understated emotion but want to draw the full feelings out, not realizing that the understatedness is what made the emotions so poignant

 

[moonvine]

At least I got to FF through almost the whole break.

 

[Lamente Ariane]

Sondheim, bless his soul in heaven, should have known that the tightly packed melancholy and regret in those short phrases would attract performers of all kinds, if I may say so. Not the best comparison but I think it's like how Leonard Cohen's songs are almost never covered with anything similar to his original low, resigned, almost noteless tone and manner, those singers cover the songs because they're attracted to the understated emotion but want to draw the full feelings out, not realizing that the understatedness is what made the emotions so poignant

Oh absolutely. I think in a way it's a good thing that he ended up realizing he didn't know what a pop hit sounded like/gave up trying to write songs to be popular hits and focused on making them good in context of the shows, because trying to write a hit is a surefire way not to. And he definitely had some questionable opinions on his own material sometimes (like calling Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd a successful adaptation...)

 

[moonvine]

I love you Jimmy!!!!!!!

 

[snowflake]

who is talking?

 

[Jontor]

Men are always hopeless to predict, but I knew one thing, that Gogolev wouldn't be in my top 5 because he is coming back from injury and it takes time.
So far, while most of the men are hop-less, Gogolev delivered a clean program and he might podium!!