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liv said:
I didnt catch what Ilia said, but if it's true that he said not going to Beijing was the reason why he failed? Nope. Not buying it. Many athletes have won gold in their first Olympics... and some, like Kurt Browning, didn't win after having gone previously. It's a reasonable excuse, but not guaranteed to be THE reason. Winning everything for years in between should season you, but the Olympics are different. Many world champions, across many disciplines, with loads of experience, have still faltered at the Olympics.
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And it was Shaidorov's first Olympics too - he didn't have prior Olympic experience either
 
I admit I played with the idea at the beginning of the season that Misha was actually the one who could successfully challenge Malinin for Olympic gold as he was one of the few who had enough goods in TES. But then he did not really have a great season so I did not think much of it anymore. Until yesterday night as it was becoming more and more real!!!
Anyway, congrats to the winner and the medallists!! :)
 
Azikin said:
"Eteri Tutberidze's coach, Daniil Gleikhengauz, believes that Petr Gumennik should have won a prize in the individual competition at the 2026 Olympics.
Gumennik performed five quadruple jumps in his routine. The Russian finished sixth overall, with a score of 271.21 points for both routines. He earned 184.49 points for his free routine.
The victory was won by Kazakhstani Mikhail Shaidorov (291.58 points).
"I promised myself I wouldn't say anything, but I can't. My personal opinion: given Petya's situation, without a rating, without anything, he should have finished third today. Given his rating, and if we hadn't been suspended, he should have finished second at the very least.
What we see in his printout doesn't correspond to reality. I can say that for sure. We looked at all the participants. The number of "q's" and "checks" he got, we forgave the others.
Plus, he received 80 component scores for a flawless performance. He had no deductions or step-outs—he received 80 component scores. Great athletes Ilya Malinin and Adam Xiao Him Fa received higher component scores than Petya for their completely disrupted free skates. This isn't entirely accurate.
"It shouldn't work like this. It's a shame. For me, Petya at least deserves a medal," Gleikhengauz said on Okko."

Amen to that.
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Not really, his FS was decent and he is decent skater, but that's all. He doesn't have jumps like Misha or skating skills like many many others, his low 8 PCS were fine and tech score was fine. He was in the middle of first 10, exactly where he should be with better skaters having sisater skates, but if they'd skate what they can, 10 was his ceilling. BTW performance wasn't flawless, but I guess for them qs and "transparent", unemotional skating aren't a flaw :shrug:
 
Lol at blaming schedule and no prior Olympic experience. As if for others it was different.
If Malinin won with multi quads, that would be great. Another guy wins- suddenly it's a disaster. Ban quads! Okay, I'll give you the reason- not quads, not schedule or whatever is at blame. It's just karma who is a known b*tch. The US got Team gold that they didn't deserve. Now they lost the most expected gold. They ban Russians and here we are. The Russian speaking Slav in ethnicity, studied in Russia, trained by Russians wins OGM.
 
Skatingcat said:
Yes, I heard and saw Elia say that if he had been in Beijing four years ago, he would've skated better. I feel for him, I really do. It must've been a crushing skate for him. But I don't think it's necessarily true. And it's not like we have a time machine or anything.

I do hope he talks to Nathan, Chen or Kurt, Browning.

I wonder if Ilia will stick around for another four years. Other than this Event, he's pretty much won everything
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I sort of suspected Ilia was struggling this season: My take watching Ilia perform this year I was struck by the physical changes in him from previous years, likely not evident to the casual observer. I think he has had a growth spurt this year no one was counting on which his parents and coaches hoped would level off and may have resulted in his frustration in the K&C today. His physique has broadened considerably, especially shoulders and arms, though not really super evident. Even his costumes look a bit small for him. Comparing photos of him 1, 2, 3 years ago to those today is striking. My point is the change in physique must affect his rotation ability, speed, jump performance etc. The added muscle weight (just enough) could possibly throw his normal training routine out of sync especially if it occurred quickly. In 2022 he had a youngster’s frame compared to this year and his training routine worked well for his younger self. If this is the case then he and his coaches need to regroup and recalibrate his aerodynamics to accommodate as his body settles into its final form, a challenge given the ultra elements he does but totally doable I suspect. I particularly noticed it this year because I’ve watched the young men in my own family change physically in a short space of time especially if there is a lapse of time - say months where i had not seen them .. then they give bear hugs! 🤗 when you say: My Goodness! How you’ve grown!
 
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Perhaps to the fact that Gumennik had his first 3 quads, 4F, 4Lz, 4Lo all scored as cleanly delivered. That alone would have put anyone else well ahead. That is super strange how Kagiyama didn't get a single call despite multiple botched landings, when Gumennik was called 4 times on q when he landed. There were shenanigans with his scoring, though maybe not as huge as Gleihausen makes it.

It was very obvious that Kagiyama was proped and if he wasn't, Sato would have worn silver, and the bronze would have been decided between three non-Japanese skaters who delivered far better free than Kagiyama. Gogolev of those three delivered the best.
 
DancingCactus said:
Gumennik can be glad he was allowed to compete at all and if they are surprised he wasn't as overscored as he probably is at home, then that's on them. He was decent, but nothing to write home about.
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I think this is unfair to say that he should be glad to be allowed to compete and as a result of this accept any score. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter what D.G. or anyone says in the aftermath. Traditionally, there is a lot of untruth and manipulation in what people say. Important is who gets what.
 
lariko said:
Perhaps to the fact that Gumennik had his first 3 quads, 4F, 4Lz, 4Lo all scored as cleanly delivered. That alone would have put anyone else well ahead. That is super strange how Kagiyama didn't get a single call despite multiple botched landings, when Gumennik was called 4 times on q when he landed. There were shenanigans with his scoring, though maybe not as huge as Gleihausen makes it.

It was very obvious that Kagiyama was proped and if he wasn't, Sato would have worn silver, and the bronze would have been decided between three non-Japanese skaters who delivered far better free than Kagiyama. Gogolev of those three delivered the best.
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botched landings doesn't always mean under-rotation. Sometimes, it's even over-rotation (not saying it was Yuma's case). Yuma's salchow was fine. His flip was also fine. At least, to me in real time. Petr's first jumps were good and received good GOE considering they are not coming out of much choreography at all and don't have much speed at landing. But his two salchows I saw as short in real time. So I don't think his jumps were overly scrutinized. The last 3 jumping passes : he was gassed ... and I am not surprised they were also short.

This being said, I wonder really if Yuma was propped. His PCS were lower than usual, lower than Cha's.

I think Shun had a more solid skate obviously except for his spins and his final lutz. He doesn't have Yuma's interpretation skills though.

Would I have liked Gogo to medal ? Yes. He had the cleanest skate out there aside from Misha. But that's life... going in as "unknown" didn't help him. His SP PCS should have been slightly higher.
 
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crazydreamer said:
What a horribly dissatisfying event. In other circumstances I would feel bad for Ilia, Yuma, Adam, Kevin, etc., but for ALL of them to implode like that? It’s frankly embarrassing for all of them and for the sport. Like I honestly think everyone involved in men’s skating should be ashamed of themselves. It makes me think there is something seriously wrong with scoring system—it is not incentivizing good skating, it is incentivizing luck of the splatfest. There needs to be some serious soul searching among male skaters, coaches, judges, and regulators.
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Welcome to the wonderful wonders of the quad rat race :palmf: :cry:
 
4everchan said:
botched landings doesn't mean under-rotation. Sometimes, it's even over-rotation (not saying it was Yuma's case). Yuma's salchow was fine. His flip was also fine. At least, to me in real time. Petr's first jumps were good and received good GOE considering they are not coming out of much choreography at all and don't have much speed at landing. But his two salchows I saw as short in real time. So I don't think his jumps were overly scrutinized. The last 3 jumping passes : he was gassed ... and I am not surprised they were also short.
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I don't believe this is true.
 
I was sure Malinin was not going for the 4A - he was so slow going into it. Overall I got the impression he is approaching the jumps more slowly than before, nearly trying to do some of them from a standstill. The loop is a tricky quad, even for him, so it's understandable that this was an issue. Overall his skating/jumping seems different from what he showed in the first part of the season. Setting up edge jumps seems to be a great problem, even the Salchow was affected for the very first time. At US Nationals he had no problems doing some triple jumps and playing it save :wonder2: ... given these circumstances it's even more impressive what he was able to do for the team.
 
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