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Carolina didn't have to practice the triple axel, so less taxing on her body. I don't know if Amber's 30 year old body will be handle all the triple axels for the next 4 years. Without the triple axel it will be difficult for her to be on the podium even with a clean skate because her PCS are not as high as Alyssa and Isabeau. Isabeau had almost the same PCS as Amber in the free skate, even with the fall.
Yeah, but having a solid, reliable triple axel at the age of 26 is also almost unheard of. She could be creating a new path for womens' figure skating. And she can always abandon the 3A to focus on PCS when she feels her body can't handle that much jumping anymore.
 
Yeah, but having a solid, reliable triple axel at the age of 26 is also almost unheard of. She could be creating a new path for womens' figure skating. And she can always abandon the 3A to focus on PCS when she feels her body can't handle that much jumping anymore.
Adam Rippon asked Amber Glenn if she would try for another Olympics in 4 years and she laughed her head off and said, “That’s so cute!” It’s not in the cards for her, but I believe she should keep on going since she’s skated better these last 2 seasons than ever before in her career. There was footage I saw of her in another interview and she was excited for the upcoming World Championships next month in Prague. I wonder if she would at least consider competing through the 2028 season. It would be really exciting to see her try and rack up some World Championships hardware!
 
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Kaori is the one who was "supposed" to place that high. Judging in this sport has ALWAYS tried to align with the pre-determined hierarchy that is expected. Even without outright bribes, the culture of judging has always been to keep the favorites up in their expected spot, while others "wait their turn".
Thanks for the response. But I am still somewhat puzzled as to the "why." What benefit is it to the ISU if the champion gets a boost and wins another medal, or if the upstart challenger skates great and pulls off an upset? It seems like either way would be equally good publicity for the sport.

In fact, reputation judging always seemed to me like the judges are not confident enough in their own abilities to score what they see, like they are always looking over their shoulder saying to themselves, "This skater always gets good marks, so I'd better throw out some good marks, too, or I'll be the odd guy out."

On the other hand, there is a reason why the best skaters always get the highest marks -- it's because they re the best skaters. So there we are, I guess.
 
Thanks for the response. But I am still somewhat puzzled as to the "why." What benefit is it to the ISU if the champion gets a boost and wins another medal, or if the upstart challenger skates great and pulls off an upset? It seems like either way would be equally good publicity for the sport.

In fact, reputation judging always seemed to me like the judges are not confident enough in their own abilities to score what they see, like they are always looking over their shoulder saying to themselves, "This skater always gets good marks, so I'd better throw out some good marks, too, or I'll be the odd guy out."

On the other hand, there is a reason why the best skaters always get the highest marks -- it's because they re the best skaters. So there we are, I guess.
I'm not so sure the best skaters always get the highest marks. IMO the recent ice dance results are a case in point.
 
Reminds me of the Europeans many, many years ago that led to some restrictions on who could judge. One very old judge, whose hearing and eyesight had deteriorated considerably, didn't hear the announcement that one pair had withdrawn due to injury. He had a printed list of the order of entries, but didn't realize entry #5 or whichever was out and everyone else had moved up one number in skating order on the list. He marked all the pairs from that point on with the scores he had already decided each pair should have, except that he didn't realize he was marking the wrong skaters until they got to the end and he wondered why he still had one more placement left to give out but no one was skating.
This also has relevance to the questions surrounding the effect of the "trimmed mean." Nowadays, it hardly ever makes any difference -- if you throw out a score that was somewhat lower than average and a score that was somewhat higher than average, that doesn't do much in determining who won, and frankly is not very useful in drawing conclusions about bias, collusion, etc., either.

If I remember correctly, the original purpose of trimming was to eliminate keystroke errors. In less techy times, once in a while a judge would accidentally hit 0 instead of 9 in entering a GOE. In even less-techy times, Tim Woods lost the 1968 Olympic Gold Medal (to Wolfgang Schwarz) when a judge held up the wrong card on one of Wood's figures. (Woods went on to win the next two world championships, and Schwarz opted for a lifelong career in human trafficking.)
 
In fact, reputation judging always seemed to me like the judges are not confident enough in their own abilities to score what they see, like they are always looking over their shoulder saying to themselves, "This skater always gets good marks, so I'd better throw out some good marks, too, or I'll be the odd guy out."
I think this is partly true. Also because the judges are sitting there, needing to constantly look at the overall skating as well as the individual elements, constantly needing to write down the score for each element after it happens, I think I can't always blame the for defaulting to past memory, because it's easy to miss thing. "oh this guy usually has good steps. therefore, he must have performed them well here too. I'll play it safe and give him +3 anyway."

Just another way 6.0 was better, I guess, even if it had flaws.
 
I'm not so sure the best skaters always get the highest marks. IMO the recent ice dance results are a case in point.
Ice Dance is very interesting in that regard. It used to be that the finishing order was pretty much pre-determined before the skating began (and you could always count on Yuri Balkov to toe-tap out the order in case some of the other judges didn't get the memo.)

In the last couple of decades there has been, I think, a whole lot more movement, and quite a bit lesss "wait-your-turn."
 
This also has relevance to the questions surrounding the effect of the "trimmed mean." Nowadays, it hardly ever makes any difference -- if you throw out a score that was somewhat lower than average and a score that was somewhat higher than average, that doesn't do much in determining who won, and frankly is not very useful in drawing conclusions about bias, collusion, etc., either.

If I remember correctly, the original purpose of trimming was to eliminate keystroke errors. In less techy times, once in a while a judge would accidentally hit 0 instead of 9 in entering a GOE. In even less-techy times, Tim Woods lost the 1968 Olympic Gold Medal (to Wolfgang Schwarz) when a judge held up the wrong card on one of Wood's figures. (Woods went on to win the next two world championships, and Schwarz opted for a lifelong career in human trafficking.)
Or the times when a judge would accidentally get the cards reversed and hold up 3.5 instead of 5.3. For figures it was the judges themselves, which was a more serious error than when they used "card girls" standing out on the ice, each representing a specific judge who had told their girl what numbers to hold up. Then it was just embarrassing if she got the numbers reversed and her judge called out a correction from their seats behind the boards.
 
Confession: I've never liked MacArthur Park. Not even for Richard Harris or Donna Summer. 🤷🏻‍♀️
I always got stuck on the line about the cake. What happened to the recipe? Did you just forget which cookbook it was in? Was it a recipe cut out of the newspaper and got lost? Were you just improvising and it turned out surprisingly well? I don't think I've ever noticed any other lyrics in the whole song.
 
I always got stuck on the line about the cake. What happened to the recipe? Did you just forget which cookbook it was in? Was it a recipe cut out of the newspaper and got lost? Were you just improvising and it turned out surprisingly well? I don't think I've ever noticed any other lyrics in the whole song.
It's supposed to represent a lost relationship/love. In this Wikipedia article, there's a quote from Jimmy Webb where he says that everything in the song is real. Including the cake. Again, who knows?

 
In even less-techy times, Tim Woods lost the 1968 Olympic Gold Medal (to Wolfgang Schwarz) when a judge held up the wrong card on one of Wood's figures. (Woods went on to win the next two world championships, and Schwarz opted for a lifelong career in human trafficking.)
Were they... not allowed to change the card? This is a serious question btw, this is such strange news to me.
 
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