Replay Lounge 2026 Worlds

[el henry]

Tonia was the one who mentioned it but for the life of me, I couldn't see anything, either. Could have been a sequin or two...maybe I'll watch it again.

Honestly, cats need to learn that sometimes there are more important things than keeping their dishes filled.

You would have them starve with a 3/4 filled dish?

 

[ladyjane]

I looked away from the screen for a moment during that performance (to reassure my cat that his dish would be refilled and just hang on, please) and when I looked back they were talking about a
"costume malfunction". What happened, to whom? I thought maybe a red flower thingy had fallen off her dress, but didn't see one on the ice. Neither of them seemed to have anything torn and hanging down?

She saw something had fallen off (I didn't) and Mark confirmed it after that. But, much later, I heard the deduction was for something else (reading on Jackie Wong's X I think) but I haven't found out what. So, I don't know either - and I watched the screen continuously!

 

[ramurphy2005]

She saw something had fallen off (I didn't) and Mark confirmed it after that. But, much later, I heard the deduction was for something else (reading on Jackie Wong's X I think) but I haven't found out what. So, I don't know either - and I watched the screen continuously!

It's in the protocols as a costume failure. I didn't see it in real time, nor have I gone back to look for it.

 

[skatedreamer]

You would have them starve with a 3/4 filled dish?

Hey. When I'm watching figure skating, all bets are off!

 

[saine]

British Ice Skating is challenging the deduction Fear/Gibson received in Ice Dance:

 

[ladyjane]

They never challenged the overscoring in years gone by, did they? Sorry, I was confused and surprised as well, but to challenge? It's going a bit far.

 

[Diana Delafield]

Hey. When I'm watching figure skating, all bets are off!

I filled the dish before the event started, and checked it during every resurfacing. Doesn't matter, my eyes were not focusing on something of far greater beauty (himself) than what was on the screen (ice dancers).

 

[Diana Delafield]

Tonia was the one who mentioned it but for the life of me, I couldn't see anything, either. Could have been a sequin or two...maybe I'll watch it again.

Honestly, cats need to learn that sometimes there are more important things than keeping their dishes filled.

Oh, but then they'd lose part of their essential catness if they accepted that

 

[skatedreamer]

I filled the dish before the event started, and checked it during every resurfacing. Doesn't matter, my eyes were not focusing on something of far greater beauty (himself) than what was on the screen (ice dancers).

Such a handsome fur boy; thanks for sharing the photo!

 

[Alex D]

I looked away from the screen for a moment during that performance (to reassure my cat that his dish would be refilled and just hang on, please) and when I looked back they were talking about a
"costume malfunction". What happened, to whom? I thought maybe a red flower thingy had fallen off her dress, but didn't see one on the ice. Neither of them seemed to have anything torn and hanging down?

This happened infront of my eyes (I am an Ice Rink Volunteer) and we had to call one of the girls to pick it up. It fell off from Christinas dress and Olivia also picked a few pieces up.

I am not a fashion designer, but what the kid brought back to us, looked like rhinestones and some piece of fabric.

We also had a fan who did throw a staffed animal on ice and with it her two bracelets. But we have wonderful ice kids, they remind me so much of my own.

 

[CellarDweller]

They talk much less than Tara and Johnny. At least to me. Maybe Tania is still getting the hang of when to shut up? Shrug.

Agreed. Since I've started watching Peacock, I've really liked the commentary with Mark and Tonia over Tara and Johnny.

I've noticed periods of performances where neither is saying anything, and they keep to the topic of skating. Tara and Johnny will sometimes veer into other stuff, at least Mark and Tonia keep to skating.

 

[Diana Delafield]

This happened infront of my eyes (I am an Ice Rink Volunteer) and we had to call one of the girls to pick it up. It fell off from Christinas dress and Olivia also picked a few pieces up.

I am not a fashion designer, but what the kid brought back to us, looked like rhinestones and some piece of fabric.

We also had a fan who did throw a staffed animal on ice and with it her two bracelets. But we have wonderful ice kids, they remind me so much of my own.

I was a nanny for the flower gatherers at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver. I know what you mean.

 

[saine]

They never challenged the overscoring in years gone by, did they? Sorry, I was confused and surprised as well, but to challenge? It's going a bit far.

I don't know how far their challenge will get. Rule 123 in the Constitution and General Regulations covers protests (page 127):

4. Protest Restrictions
In line with the generally accepted international sports concept according to which “field of play decisions” are not subject to correction and/or review, the score or time achieved by a Competitor during a segment, race or qualifying round of a competition is final, as a matter of principle, once the decision(s) of the competent Official(s) is/are announced by the official announcer and/or displayed on the score board or video screen of the competition with the exception of successful protests according to the provisions below.

Consequently, the following restrictions for protests apply:
A. Figure Skating
a) No protests against evaluations by Referees, Judges and the Technical Panel (Technical Controller, Technical Specialists) of Skaters’ performances are allowed.
b) Protests against results are permitted only in the case of incorrect mathematical calculation. A wrong identification of an element or of a level of difficulty, although it results in a lower or higher score is not an incorrect mathematical calculation.
c) Authority of Referee to Correct Errors
As an exception to the aforementioned Rule(s), the Referee shall correct errors, i.e. even if no protest has been filed, if he/she learns:
i) Prior to the beginning of the award ceremony (or prior to the official announcement of results if there is no award ceremony), that a wrong
data input by the Data Operator occurred, provided the Technical Controller and both Technical Specialists agree that there was an input error. For the purpose of this Rule, the presentation of the medals for Short Program/Rhythm Dance is considered as an award ceremony.
ii) Within 24 hours after the award ceremony that an incorrect mathematical calculation occurred, provided the Technical Controller and both Technical Specialists agree that there was such an incorrect calculation. If such correction leads to changes in the final placements, the corresponding medals and/or awards shall be redistributed accordingly.
d) If a situation under paragraphs a) - c) above arises, the Referee shall make a short record in writing which in case of c) i) and ii) must be signed by all members of the Technical Panel.

It doesn't look like they can challenge the decision of the technical panel with the deduction for an illegal element they called, just grumble about the calls like everyone else.

 

[4everchan]

I don't know how far their challenge will get. Rule 123 in the Constitution and General Regulations covers protests (page 127):

It doesn't look like they can challenge the decision of the technical panel with the deduction for an illegal element they called, just grumble about the calls like everyone else.

that was my first thought..

at the same time, considering the Tech boss was Julia Rey who really likes her home teams, and considering all the talk everyone has been making about the French judge, the British judge (at the Olympics). or Shawn Restatt, I cannot blame them for raising their voices.

In the end, it just shows how badly ice dance is judged. Some fans complain about singles at time because some calls are or aren't made but if anyone dares to look at the protocols in the Free Dance, it's a hot mess.... so hot that the Arctic is melting. Seriously... I have never ever seen a world championship free dance with such a diversity of scores. I mean, it's so random it means pretty much nothing at this point.

I understand Zach Lagha to be utterly confused with the scoring and wondering what they need to do to get their share.... If I recall correctly, the Australian judge gave them 3rd place with 123 or something while the Cyprus judge (formerly French) gave them the 14th place with only 108... That's crazy. This kind of landslide scoring was noticed by many fans and coaches and skaters must be very upset with it.

 

[Arigato]

Anyone understand these rules? #2 seems to contradict #1.

Key Ice Dance Rules Regarding Lifts Above the Head:

• Arm Extension Limits: The lifting partner cannot fully extend their arms while the lifted partner is above head level.
• Time Limits: Short lifts are limited to 7 seconds, while combination lifts are limited to 12 seconds.

Are the rules current?

Mark thought he had her above his head for too long.

 

[CellarDweller]

First off, a very Happy Birthday to @dorispulaski and @Mathman

Now, onto skating!

This year the events were out of my time zone, so I missed chatting with you all! The only event I was able to chat live on was the free dance event.

Regarding the ice dancing, congrats to Piper and Paul and their silver medal! I will miss their "Supermodel" rhythm dance. Regarding Fear & Gibson, while I do enjoy seeing an American pair on the podium, I can't understand why a lift that was not an issue all season suddenly became an issue for the World Championships. I know this is being appealed. Has an appeal ever been successful? If not, I think this one should be.

For the pairs, for some reason, this discipline did not stay in my mind at all. The only thing I can recall is that the US lost a spot, and I hope that Emily Chan and Spencer Howe can put their performance and placement behind them, and move into next season in a positive headspace.

The women - Loved seeing Kaori going out on top! Congrats queen! I'm so happy for you! I am heartbroken for Amber. She really seems to be unable to put two clean programs back-to-back. Surprised to see Isabeau Levito up her tech with her combo, and congrats to her and Amber for keeping the three spots for the US. Other women who I enjoyed watching were Laura Naki Gutmann, Ekaterina Kurakova, Jia Shin, and Mone Chiba!

The men - big congrats to Ilia Malinin for his redemption from the Olympics! However, Yuma's free skate was amazing! I also loved seeing Shun Sato, Stephen Gogolev, and I really wonder what the future will hold for Donovan Carillo and Jacob Sanchez! My fave moment, seeing Kevin Aymoz deliver in the free skate, and move up from 11th to 7th! Congrats to the US men on holding up 3 spots for the US for next year!

 

[4everchan]

Anyone understand these rules? #2 seems to contradict #1.

Key Ice Dance Rules Regarding Lifts Above the Head:

• Arm Extension Limits: The lifting partner cannot fully extend their arms while the lifted partner is above head level.
• Time Limits: Short lifts are limited to 7 seconds, while combination lifts are limited to 12 seconds.

Mark thought he had her above his head for too long.

I think Mark may have meant that Lewis extended his arms too long while lifting her ? I don't know but there is no rule about how long a lifted partner can be anywhere specifically. The lift duration is because teams can choose to do 3 short lifts for 7 seconds each or 1 combo of two lifts for 12 seconds+ 1 short lift for 7 seconds.

In this case, there was no time violation so the lift was probably 12 seconds or less. The illegal move deduction would therefore be for the arm extension.

I haven't watched the replay but each time I see this lift, I am surprised by how high he takes her.
If his arms locked this time, with adrenaline or whatever, it's quite possible that it would be judged illegal this time and not other times BUT it did surprise me because they didn't get called on it all season... so why now ? Because the TP wants it ?

When Adam was doing an illegal move, he was dinged for it every single time. This is absolutely not what happened here and I guess why the British federation is pissed off.

 

[4everchan]

Also, I cannot help to think that the British federation will not get anything out of this... I mean... I have never seen a figure skating decision overturned since like... 2002.

 

[Arigato]

I think Mark may have meant that Lewis extended his arms too long while lifting her ? I don't know but there is no rule about how long a lifted partner can be anywhere specifically. The lift duration is because teams can choose to do 3 short lifts f 7 seconds each or 1 combo of two lifts for 12 seconds+ 1 short lift for 7 seconds.

In this case, there was no time violation so the lift was probably 12 seconds or less. The illegal move deduction would therefore be for the arm extension.

I haven't watched the replay but each time I see this lift, I am surprised by how high he takes her.
If his arms locked this time, with adrenaline or whatever, it's quite possible that it would be judges illegal this time and not other times BUT it did surprise me because they didn't get called on it all season... so why now ? Because the TP wants it ?

When Adam was doing an illegal move, he was dinged for it every single time. This is absolutely not what happened here and I guess why the British federation is pissed off.

Does this remind you of Finland earlier in the season? Granted, they dinged several skaters but Cizeron spoke up at the press conference and then Piper joined in. The judges hammered skaters with level 1's. How can a part of the world have different criteria for skaters? Is that even relevant here? Could they have a different set of rules for extended arms? I watched the replay for Worlds and then I replayed the Olympics. The Olympics was shorter time with his arms extended above his head. But we're only talking a couple seconds.

 

[4everchan]

Does this remind you of Finland earlier in the season? Granted, they dinged several skaters but Cizeron spoke up at the press conference and then Piper joined in. The judges hammered skaters with level 1's. How can a part of the world have different criteria for skaters? Is that even relevant here? Could they have a different set of rules for extended arms? I watched the replay here and then I replayed the Olympics. The Olympics was shorter time with his arms extended above his head. But we're only talking a couple seconds.

Yup... I mentioned Shawn Restatt earlier... skaters have no idea what's happening to them anymore.

I mean.. how did LaLa get level 2 twizzles when they have some of the best twizzles in the world and there was no apparent mistake.
Mark or was it Tonia ? was praising them for their speed and proximity... Level 4 appeared... and was reviewed to level 2... why? how?