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This is only supposed to be about Singles and Pairs, not ID. What kind of twizzles variations do we usually see in Singles/Pairs?
I'll start us off.
Also, did you notice anyone who's noticeably weaker in one direction or one foot than the other?
Thanks for sharing this! I always thought Plushenko was a more interesting and creative skater in his younger days (especially before IJS came around).This is the first singles step sequence I noticed twizzles in -- the easiest one, but more than most ice dancers were doing at the time
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He started Sit Twizzles very early! This was an attempt, at just 13:Sit position twizzles by Hanyu in the second half of that series. I appreciate the difficulty attempted there.
Sit position twizzles by Hanyu in the second half of that series. I appreciate the difficulty attempted there.
For your collection, then.Alexandra Stepanova and Ivan Bukin were known to have had Sit Twizzle before ditching them because they weren't rewarded (I wouldn't say that Yuzuru Hanyu's were rewarded either but he hung on), and I've read a report that British Free Skater and Solo Ice Dancer Alana Pang had Sit Twizzles too.
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the issue is that their twizzles had barely any ice coverage so they were indeed marked down, and rightfully so in my opinionAs far as sit twizzles go, Stepanova/Bukin were the standard, they actually achieve a very low position which is not only very difficult to do, but hard to keep in unison, let alone control just enough that it's a twizzle and not a spin. Carol Lane called them, quite rightly, the "coolest twizzles in ice dancing". A real shame it was often marked down causing them to have to abandon it when it really was quite innovative (and worked well with the program too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTF_h7SbxIY#t=25s
You mean when my sit spin travels I can claim I was actually doing super-hard twizzles?the issue is that their twizzles had barely any ice coverage so they were indeed marked down, and rightfully so in my opinion

It was moreso that they didn't get the levels/base value. I also think those twizzles would be exceedingly difficult to get great ice coverage compared to a plain twizzle, and the difficulty of position more than makes up for the lack of ice coverage if I were a judge.the issue is that their twizzles had barely any ice coverage so they were indeed marked down, and rightfully so in my opinion
yeah but the definition of a twizzles for the sake of ice dancers is that they are moving across the ice...not turning in one spot just like lifts need to cover ice in pairs. Or just like a stat lift in dance cannot travel or else, BASEIt was moreso that they didn't get the levels/base value. I also think those twizzles would be exceedingly difficult to get great ice coverage compared to a plain twizzle, and the difficulty of position more than makes up for the lack of ice coverage if I were a judge.