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Twizzles in Singles/Pairs

I remember Polina Edmunds. I did not find competition but I remember when she was at Finlandia Trophy and I liked her style. She has quite many twizzle videos from practice. There is plenty of in her ig and I found also one youtube video.

 
This is only supposed to be about Singles and Pairs, not ID. What kind of twizzles variations do we usually see in Singles/Pairs?

I'll start us off.



Also, did you notice anyone who's noticeably weaker in one direction or one foot than the other?

Personally, I'm just relieved twizzles didn't creep into pairs while we were still competing, as neither my partner nor I do them well at all, although a few pairs would include some in a program even in the 70s and 80s. Today, if we're coaxed to do a few by a choreographer, they're only counter-clockwise, and usually on the left foot which is my stronger side. Just one more element for pairs to learn and practise these days.
 
This is the first singles step sequence I noticed twizzles in -- the easiest one, but more than most ice dancers were doing at the time

Thanks for sharing this! I always thought Plushenko was a more interesting and creative skater in his younger days (especially before IJS came around).
 
Sit position twizzles by Hanyu in the second half of that series. I appreciate the difficulty attempted there.
He started Sit Twizzles very early! This was an attempt, at just 13:


Can we say that the ultimate was during the Beijing Olympic Gala practices, where he skated all or part of a number of his past programs, including this White Legend with, after three series of Upright Twizzles, a 13-revolution Sit Twizzle (ending maybe in what we could call Sit Spin, for the two last?)


Actually I'm trying to find a repertory of all Yuzuru Hanyu's types of Twizzles because he's really the Twizzle King, at least among Single Skaters and has some everywhere, so I don't think I could enumerate them all and not be wrong in many?

Alexandra Stepanova and Ivan Bukin were known to have had Sit Twizzle before ditching them because they weren't rewarded (I wouldn't say that Yuzuru Hanyu's were rewarded either but he hung on), and I've read a report that British Free Skater and Solo Ice Dancer Alana Pang had Sit Twizzles too.
 
Alexandra Stepanova and Ivan Bukin were known to have had Sit Twizzle before ditching them because they weren't rewarded (I wouldn't say that Yuzuru Hanyu's were rewarded either but he hung on), and I've read a report that British Free Skater and Solo Ice Dancer Alana Pang had Sit Twizzles too.
For your collection, then.

 
I was watching a video (which I don't know how to share here) on Facebook of Roberta Sasso, world women's solo dance champion in artistic roller skating, and her dance partner Gherardo Altieri Degrassi, men's solo dance world champion himself, competing in the couples' event in May. They were doing all kinds of twizzles in all directions and positions, which is much more difficult on quad wheels on a wooden floor than blades on ice, and if you didn't look at their feet you'd think they were skating on ice. I felt very fumble-footed just watching :cry2:.
 
I came upon this little instructional video on YouTube exlpaining what a twizzle actually is using bits of young Yuzu footage.



.. and here's a series of absolutely gorgeous twizzles opening the last year's music video of Yuzuru Hanyu and Kenshi Yonezu to the title song of the Medallist, a Disney+ skating anime hit series, skated by Yuzuru while written and sang by Kenshi. Some more twizzling can be found further in the program, too :rock:

 
As far as sit twizzles go, Stepanova/Bukin were the standard, they actually achieve a very low position which is not only very difficult to do, but hard to keep in unison, let alone control just enough that it's a twizzle and not a spin. Carol Lane called them, quite rightly, the "coolest twizzles in ice dancing". A real shame it was often marked down causing them to have to abandon it when it really was quite innovative (and worked well with the program too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTF_h7SbxIY#t=25s
 
As far as sit twizzles go, Stepanova/Bukin were the standard, they actually achieve a very low position which is not only very difficult to do, but hard to keep in unison, let alone control just enough that it's a twizzle and not a spin. Carol Lane called them, quite rightly, the "coolest twizzles in ice dancing". A real shame it was often marked down causing them to have to abandon it when it really was quite innovative (and worked well with the program too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTF_h7SbxIY#t=25s
the issue is that their twizzles had barely any ice coverage so they were indeed marked down, and rightfully so in my opinion
 
the issue is that their twizzles had barely any ice coverage so they were indeed marked down, and rightfully so in my opinion
It was moreso that they didn't get the levels/base value. I also think those twizzles would be exceedingly difficult to get great ice coverage compared to a plain twizzle, and the difficulty of position more than makes up for the lack of ice coverage if I were a judge.
 
It was moreso that they didn't get the levels/base value. I also think those twizzles would be exceedingly difficult to get great ice coverage compared to a plain twizzle, and the difficulty of position more than makes up for the lack of ice coverage if I were a judge.
yeah but the definition of a twizzles for the sake of ice dancers is that they are moving across the ice...not turning in one spot just like lifts need to cover ice in pairs. Or just like a stat lift in dance cannot travel or else, BASE :)
So it doesn't matter that these positions are cooler and harder, they do not match the requirements and so they were dinged.
 
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