I agree with you. I am really happy he won. I'm a big fan of his.
Grand Prix Final: Mens LP
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I agree with you. I am really happy he won. I'm a big fan of his.
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Lol it's not just the men.
Seriously, the scores at GPF have been nuts. Super inflation across all the disciplines! Ridiculous.
Abbott peaked too early in the season last time. He seems to be right on track for the Olympics! With a little more polish and practice, if he lands that quad, wow. Same for Daisuke and Oda!
The placements are right imo. Even though I think Evan's PCS is absurdly high.
OUCH Dai got 2 downgrades (4T and 2A) and his last two spins didn't count.
Too many combo spins.
Seriously, the scores at GPF have been nuts. Super inflation across all the disciplines! Ridiculous.
Abbott peaked too early in the season last time. He seems to be right on track for the Olympics! With a little more polish and practice, if he lands that quad, wow. Same for Daisuke and Oda!
The placements are right imo. Even though I think Evan's PCS is absurdly high.
OUCH Dai got 2 downgrades (4T and 2A) and his last two spins didn't count.
Too many combo spins.
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Evan's marks are ridiculous across the board.
His 3Axel, with crappy technique and a small bobble on the landing, received a +1 mark from almost every judge (for a total of +.8 points).
His tiny 3Sal received +1.
His good, but hardly amazing, footwork sequences both got an average of +2 and the final footwork sequence got a mark of +3 from three judges??!?!
His 3Axel, with crappy technique and a small bobble on the landing, received a +1 mark from almost every judge (for a total of +.8 points).
His tiny 3Sal received +1.
His good, but hardly amazing, footwork sequences both got an average of +2 and the final footwork sequence got a mark of +3 from three judges??!?!
You're welcome. Sometimes reading some of the comments here is like being in junior high with a bunch of 13 year old girls.
Sorry, I'm just irritated because some fans can't let others enjoy a moment for their favorites...ever. We all stayed up all night to watch this. It would be nice if some would show a little maturity.
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Well last I checked the opinions of the judges do count. Whether we agree or not. The placements were correct tonight. No matter who your favorite was.
Off to the ladies.
Off to the ladies.
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Congratulations Evan!
The bashers should go peel a lemon and suck on it for a while
I drank a soda, I m ok now
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The judging of this competition is just a comedy :chorus::chorus:
Oda and Takahashi didn't get any fluz call and Evan.. hail to the PCS king?
What a joke GPF before Olympics... I don't know what to say
Oda and Takahashi didn't get any fluz call and Evan.. hail to the PCS king?
What a joke GPF before Olympics... I don't know what to say
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That's fine, you're welcome to being happy about this win.
We are discussing the objectiveness in the scoring, though.
Do you feel that Evan just gave the best performance you have ever seen?
He broke the World Record for PCS with a performance that isn't even HIS best, let alone the best we've ever seen from anybody under CoP.
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I drank a soda, I m ok now
Good girl.:yes:
Don't be like the others.
Evan won and all Greeks should be happy
This looks for sure like Evan will be on the Olympic podium. Just wonder what color his medal will be?
IMO, taking the results of SP and LP Evan should have won, but not with THAT PCS score. Ok, here, it did not influance the placement, but there can be more important competitions (Olys) that his boosted PCS will deprive someone from medalling (I dont want to be too negative before it even happens, but....). He is good. But NOT that good to receive +3 GOE for the step sequence, just for example.
The scores, especially PCS, were rather high for every skater, in my opinion. Anyway, the placements felt right, in my opinion.
I´m glad that Evan won this competition and also for Weir´s medal. I thought that Abbott would have been the second best US skater here. And I´m also glad that Evan did not skate a faultless freeskate programme, yet. For that the Olympics is the right time. I hope very much that Evan will not put way too much effort to win at the Nationals, he only needs to skate well enough to be among those who get selected to the Olympics. Such a pity in that year he wanted so much to win his first Nationals title and was not able to skate as well at the Worlds.... I don´t want that mistake to happen again as it is the Olympic season.
I´m glad that Evan won this competition and also for Weir´s medal. I thought that Abbott would have been the second best US skater here. And I´m also glad that Evan did not skate a faultless freeskate programme, yet. For that the Olympics is the right time. I hope very much that Evan will not put way too much effort to win at the Nationals, he only needs to skate well enough to be among those who get selected to the Olympics. Such a pity in that year he wanted so much to win his first Nationals title and was not able to skate as well at the Worlds.... I don´t want that mistake to happen again as it is the Olympic season.
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Good girl.:yes:
Don't be like the others.
Evan won and all Greeks should be happy
This looks for sure like Evan will be on the Olympic podium. Just wonder what color his medal will be?
Gold unless Plushy can stop him with significantly higher TES.
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There will also be Joubert and Chan at Olympics.
Off to the Ladies and the real bitching
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Evan won and all Greeks should be happy
Oh ok, I m happy then.... But in Olympics I will be more happy if Russians are happy
I dont care what greeks would feel
Please - where did you see the interview?
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There will also be Joubert and Chan at Olympics.
Off to the Ladies and the real bitching
I think the judges made it pretty clear they only consider Plush as a real contender against Evan, definetely not Joubert or Oda. Chan I don't know yet, he has to skate more to see how high the judges wanna place him.
Ladies have been not terrorized with such ridiculous PCS and scoring, I don't see a need for real bitching there (from the SP).. The only issue will be the DG on 3T again but it's nothing like the men's.. Anyway we'll see..
As has been said many times, you can't accurately compare scores across competition, particularly PCS.
Unlike TES, there is not codified standard for what constitutes an 8.00 versus a 9.00.
If the ISU had a chart somewhere I'd give you more credit for your argument.
The same was true under 6.0 as well. At least PCS is more explicit in what it's looking for than 6.0 artistic impression/presentation was.
This was field of the fall's top finishers. It should be expected that this would be treated like a final group at Worlds or Olympics where PCS would be similarly high.
BTW, despite not being able to fairly compare one panel's scores to another, my personal opinion is that Evan's program and performance were better than some of the other 80 plus PCS scores I've seen (Joubert and Plushenko in particular).
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