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Patrick looked very displeased with that bronze during the ceremony
2012 GPF Men's Free Skate LP
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Javi only gets the PCS he does because he is so good at quads. Kozuka is a much better skater. Javi's TES is great and his jumps are allowing him to close the gap on PCS, but don't you guys remember just a couple seasons ago, before Javi started landings all these quads, how his PCS scores were in the 6s? His skating has improved but not that much and the FS in particular is not that great. If anyone was robbed it was Kozuka, the scores, PCS and TSS, were all very generous for Tak, Hanyu, and Chan considering what they did. Javi wasn't robbed and doesn't deserve higher PCS, more like the top 3 were held up and deserve lower.
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If you've been winning (almost) everything in sight for the past two years, wouldn't you?
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I missed the event and haven't watched the videos yet but I have to congratulate Daisuke for winning this event and for being the first Japanese to do so. He is indeed a pioneer Japanese male skater with all his accomplishments!
And congrats too to Yuzuru, Patrick, and Fernandez.
I hope Patrick will exorcise Oda out of himself.
And congrats too to Yuzuru, Patrick, and Fernandez.
I hope Patrick will exorcise Oda out of himself.
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I think Yuzuru was just as if not more 'clean' than the other skaters today. Have any of these men skated a totally clean FS yet this season? These top guys have so much content and difficulty in their programs, it'd be pretty amazing if they did go 100% clean.
Yes--Yuzuru did, at the Finlandia Trophy.
If anything, his PCS has dropped. Even when he's had multiple falls, his PCS scores were nearly all in the 9s, and mid 9s at that. Now they're mostly in the low 9s with some high 8s. He needs a technical coach, and fast.
As for Kathy Johnson, I thought his purpose in bringing her on was to increase his connection with the audience (which is the hallmark of a great skater). He's still skating pretty much for himself, and dancy moves have replaced some of his usual transitions.
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If you've been winning (almost) everything in sight for the past two years, wouldn't you?
Maybe he'll realize he won't be handed World gold or Olympic gold on a silver platter! Karmic payback for his disrespectful statements re Plushenko ("36 or 37 year old landing quads" - arrogant!)
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If you've been winning (almost) everything in sight for the past two years, wouldn't you?
This would mean he truly thought he deserved every single win of his
I have no doubt he'll come back stronger than ever after today but he needs this reality check.
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Although...its not clear what Lysacek would be most afraid of, Hanyu's 2S, Takahashi's 4T(fall), Chan's 4T(fall) Kozuka's 4T(fall) or Machida's 4T<<.
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Although...its not clear what Lysacek would be most afraid of, Hanyu's 2S, Takahashi's 4T(fall), Chan's 4T(fall) Kozuka's 4T(fall) or Machida's 4T<<.
(on a more serious note, BASE VALUES. I'm not convinced Lysacek can do a quad right now when his last successful attempt at one took place 5 years ago)
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I have a feeling Chan will be gradually phased out by judges, which is good for the sport. Judges seem to have found a new pet in men's skating.
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Although...its not clear what Lysacek would be most afraid of, Hanyu's 2S, Takahashi's 4T(fall), Chan's 4T(fall) Kozuka's 4T(fall) or Machida's 4T<<.
Lysacek would probably beat them all with his superior arm-flailing anyway.
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This should not be just a wakeup call for Chan, it should be a wakeup sledgehammer: hie thee hence to a real tech coach as fast as your clever feet can take you.
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Chan received the highest PCS despite skating quite poorly. Frankly, his new programs are great and the judges are rewarding him well for it. The real problem is that Chan has not been landing his jumps; Zayakking and getting the +SEQ penalty on quads will kill anyone's score.
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If that's the case, Dai and PChiddy better step their game up and flail harder or exhibit some extreme windmill motions! Forget clean edges and flirting with the crowd, freestyling and backstoking in the air is where it's at!
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And a happy Koninkrijksdag to you! (It's next Saturday, 15 December
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I haven't watched the programs yet, but apparently Patrick's didn't go very well. Are you putting him down for being disappointed? I don't get the impression that Patrick feels "entitled" to get a certain placement if he doesn't skate well. Ultimately, results are out of the skaters' hands anyway. I think it's more like he's disappointed with the skate (i.e. he didn't meet whatever goals he set for that FS).
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