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2014 Worlds: Which Skaters are not going?

Don't feel competly sad. Tomas Verner will go to worlds.

really? Then I can cheer for Tomas and Takahiko, at least, at Mens comp in Saitama. I will cheer for them like crazy, I promise! :yay: Thanks a lot for this great news, mikiandorocks! :)
 
Adelina being listed as a substitute means she may still end up competing. If she absolutely wasn't going to compete, her name wouldn't be on the list as a substitute.
 
shin amano will be there?? lolz.. i wonder why ISU didn't put him at the olympics.. i wonder why... i wonder why... i wonder why... :think:

Maybe it was for his sake. They Olympics wants high scores and big stories. His head would have simply exploded! That would just be cruel. ;)
 
lol, Sotnikova's smarter than I thought. Yeah, outskating Mao who's competing in her home country at "likely-to-be" her farewell competition would be a piece of cake, specially for a skater of Sotnikova's caliber, right?
 
lol, Sotnikova's smarter than I thought. Yeah, outskating Mao who's competing in her home country at "likely-to-be" her farewell competition would be a piece of cake, specially for a skater of Sotnikova's caliber, right?

I think the real question is can Mao keep from falling again and more likely how many times will she fall? My god that 3a is her biggest competition. I wish she'd have let that go a while ago. What a wildcard.
 
I think the real question is can Mao keep from falling again and more likely how many times will she fall? ....

:laugh:

Really? I don't think that will be a big issue. UR on her 3A, sure, but Mao's Oly SP meltdown was not typical. She may not often be completely error-free, but at the same time she doesn't usually have epic meltdowns like Sochi SP.

The LP she laid down should put her in good shape mentally for Worlds.


ETA: slutskayafann, I agree. This post-Olympic Worlds seems especially bereft of the top contenders.
 
nice excuse..

even with all the pressure.. yuna didn't withdraw..even if she had a disastrous SP..she still went on to skate the lp... didn't back down.. and put her reputation on the line..

so nice try..

Yu-Na didn't have a choice in 2010. She had to compete b/c there was no one else to compete for Korea who had a hope of placing in the top 10 (Min-Jung Kwak was the only other competitor for Korea and she finished in 22nd place :sarcasm:). Yu-Na didn't want to go and the performances she turned in that year were pretty terrible by her standards, but she had to go to keep Korea's spots for the following season.

Adelina doesn't have to compete for Russia. Julia has a great shot at placing top 5 if not on the podium, and Anna can do enough to stay in the top 10 as well...then there's Alena and Liza T. Russia has enough depth that Adelina's presence isn't necessary for them to keep their two spots...it's possible Julia and Anna can get 3 spots back.

At first I wanted to see Adelina compete as well...but I definitely think she made the right decision by sitting this one out. It is very unlikely she will top the performances she had in Sochi. By sitting out worlds, she can end her season on a high note not only b/c she "won" in Sochi but b/c she delivered two excellent performances.

Of course, people who hate her are going to find fault w/ her skipping worlds this year by saying she's scared and whatnot, but the truth of the matter is it's a smart decision. Showing up unprepared would be suicide. Better to enjoy the success of her win and come back fresh next season.
 
It's official. Adelina Sotnikova won't compete for the 2014 Worlds. She's listed as a 3rd sub. Pogo and Lip get to go. Good for Adelina. She does need a rest from this lengthy & stressful season and there's always a next year for that world's gold medal.

Link: http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat00028068.htm

I believe the subs are listed alphabetically so she isn't necessarily 3rd in line according to this list. IIRC Irina wanted to compete at 2006 Worlds but couldn't because she was neither assigned or even a sub, so I think having Adelina there means she is likely not going to compete but is leaving the option open. Hopefully Anna can place high enough to secure 3 spots with Julia, as Julia should medal with Yuna and (presumably) Adelina out so Anna really only needs to finish in the top 10 which is doable for her.
 
shin amano will be there?? lolz.. i wonder why ISU didn't put him at the olympics.. i wonder why... i wonder why... i wonder why... :think:
This may come as a surprise, but Shin Amano said that the UR calls on Mao in Sochi were "very strict." Another tidbit from him was that he felt Mao's 3A in her GPF SP was rotated. Yet the Assistant Technical Specialist (whose name and nationality I will not mention) called to review it and it was given the <. Very interesting, given the way she started missing Axels in practice the very next day and didn't sort out her 3A in competition until her Olympic LP.
 
I believe the subs are listed alphabetically so she isn't necessarily 3rd in line according to this list. IIRC Irina wanted to compete at 2006 Worlds but couldn't because she was neither assigned or even a sub, so I think having Adelina there means she is likely not going to compete but is leaving the option open. Hopefully Anna can place high enough to secure 3 spots with Julia, as Julia should medal with Yuna and (presumably) Adelina out so Anna really only needs to finish in the top 10 which is doable for her.

Agreed. I think Julia has a great shot at the podium and Anna, while not on par with the other ladies in terms of PCS, has enough firepower to keep her in the top 10 if she can nail her jumps. She's been pretty consistent this season and after missing the Olympics I'm thinking she'll be motivated to make her mark for Russia the way Julia and Adelina did.

I feel good about their chances of getting that 3rd spot back...
 
This may come as a surprise, but Shin Amano said that the UR calls on Mao in Sochi were "very strict." Another interesting thing from him was that he felt Mao's 3A in her GPF SP was rotated. Yet the Assistant Technical Specialist (whose name and nationality I will not mention) called to review it and it was given the <. Very interesting, given the way she started missing Axels in practice the very next day and didn't sort out her 3A in competition until her Olympic LP.

If Mao can replicate that program at Worlds it will set a world record for sure. She will get the "e" call on the lutz but the marginal "<" is never called for the home skaters anywhere.
 
Adelina doesn't have to compete for Russia. Julia has a great shot at placing top 5 if not on the podium, and Anna can do enough to stay in the top 10 as well...then there's Alena and Liza T. Russia has enough depth that Adelina's presence isn't necessary for them to keep their two spots...it's possible Julia and Anna can get 3 spots back.

Will be interesting If Julia finishes around 4th, Anna P. in tenth, and Russia loses their 3 spots for second consecutive year because their "Olympic gold medalist" doesn't show up.
 
Yu-Na didn't have a choice in 2010. She had to compete b/c there was no one else to compete for Korea who had a hope of placing in the top 10 (Min-Jung Kwak was the only other competitor for Korea and she finished in 22nd place :sarcasm:). Yu-Na didn't want to go and the performances she turned in that year were pretty terrible by her standards, but she had to go to keep Korea's spots for the following season.

Yu-Na had a choice in 2010. She had voluntarily committed to going to 2010 Worlds at the beginning of the season, though, and didn't change her mind even though mentally she obviously wasn't in the right mindset. It had nothing to do with keeping spots for Korea, though, because if so, that same reasoning would mean she's competing at 2014 Worlds.

As for Adelina, first, she's still listed as a substitute, so who knows what will happen. Second, it will never be easier for her to win a world medal than right now. Gotta strike when the iron's hot. Third, while it is possible for Yulia and Anna to get 3 spots for Russia, it would be more likely with Yulia and Adelina. So Adelina not competing does hurt Russia's chances of securing spots, though it is possible Yulia and Anna can get it done without her.

This may come as a surprise, but Shin Amano said that the UR calls on Mao in Sochi were "very strict." Another tidbit from him was that he felt Mao's 3A in her GPF SP was rotated. Yet the Assistant Technical Specialist (whose name and nationality I will not mention) called to review it and it was given the <. Very interesting, given the way she started missing Axels in practice the very next day and didn't sort out her 3A in competition until her Olympic LP.

You know that the technical panel has to agree on the call after a review, right? The Assistant Technical Specialist can't give a UR call by themselves if not even one other person agrees.
 
Where's leonova????

At home, I'd assume. After her stronger showing at Euros I would have thought they may have given her the spot but I guess the Russian federation is taking the same approach the USFSA went with when they named Polina Edmunds to the Olympics and world teams. Alena has been disappointing in all but her last two competitions. She was 7th at one GP and withdrew from the other, did slightly better at nationals (5th) and placed 4th at Euros. It seems like she's trending upward but rather than take a chance on her, the federation is giving Anna some much needed experience.

It'd have been nice to give Alena a chance to redeem herself after her 13th place finish last year, but we're moving into a new quad which means the younger skaters are being pushed to the front and all of the holdovers will either have to step it up or get out of the way.
 
Yu-Na didn't have a choice in 2010. She had to compete b/c there was no one else to compete for Korea who had a hope of placing in the top 10 (Min-Jung Kwak was the only other competitor for Korea and she finished in 22nd place :sarcasm:). Yu-Na didn't want to go and the performances she turned in that year were pretty terrible by her standards, but she had to go to keep Korea's spots for the following season.

nope.. yuna had a choice... true there was pressure for her to compete.. but she still showed up..honored her commitment when she said before vancouver that she will skate in the world championship.. and didn't withdraw even with a disaster sp..
 
At home, I'd assume. After her stronger showing at Euros I would have thought they may have given her the spot but I guess the Russian federation is taking the same approach the USFSA went with when they named Polina Edmunds to the Olympics and world teams. Alena has been disappointing in all but her last two competitions. She was 7th at one GP and withdrew from the other, did slightly better at nationals (5th) and placed 4th at Euros. It seems like she's trending upward but rather than take a chance on her, the federation is giving Anna some much needed experience.

It'd have been nice to give Alena a chance to redeem herself after her 13th place finish last year, but we're moving into a new quad which means the younger skaters are being pushed to the front and all of the holdovers will either have to step it up or get out of the way.

Leonova did do her part and step it up and she crushed pogorilaya!! But now no double axel pogorilaya is being sent? I guess they tested her and she has a double axel again? Because leonova did step it up and she can't go to worlds. Now she's a more unfortunate sokolova. Sokolova wasn't doing as well as leonova before she was basically banned. Now leonovas been banned? That's not right. She did so well at euros. I don't even know what pogorilaya has been doing. Her double axel got so weak that she couldn't do well last season. It went AWOL. Now she should have to prove she's worthy of worlds moreso than leonova. I see pogorilaya did beat leonova in the fs at Russian nationals by a point but leonova beat her by 8 points. And then leonova has her euros Performance which was much better. Maybe pogorilaya might do well. It just seems weird because leonova earned it. Unless the Russian federation knows something about leonova at this point that I don't. Like she officially stopped training but pogorilaya kept it up? Sure pogorilaya won a gp event but then didn't keep it up and lost her double axel. How is she going to do worlds with no double axel? So Russia will likely not have 3 spots for 2015.
 
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