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South Korean federation's complaint to the ISU about judging

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This is the second time I've seen this idiotic suggestion in this thread, and the second time I've laughed and known immediately that the person actually has no idea how a tech panel works, if you think the replay operator was part of some huge conspiracy.
 

cuon_alpinus

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Are Lakernik and Alla FAMILY of Adelina?:rolleye:


As many have pointed out, the head of the KSU was a judge at Vancouver where Yuna won OGM, yet nobody raised a stink about conflict of interest then?

The case of the KSU and Yuna's fans can be summarized as follows:

1) Yuna didn't win Olympic Gold, so there MUST be corruption and fraud
2) Since there MUST be fraud so WHO are the ones most likely to have committed them?
3) They MUST be the Russians or ex Soviet nationals.
4) A Russian judge hugged Adelina, so she MUST have committed fraud.
5) Tech Controller is Russian, so therefore MUST have committed fraud.
6) Those who gave POSITIVE GOEs to Adelina MUST have committed fraud.
7) Those who DIDN'T award Yuna Level 4s and POSITIVE GOEs MUST have committed fraud.

Therefore the Sochi results are FRAUDULENT.

Yuna didn't win = Corruption.

Note to this date, there's no concrete evidence of fraud, just staunch and emotional opinions.

If the rules are examined, Adelina receiving -0.9 for her stumble in her combination jump is correct, as it was an over rotated jump and the other jumps in the combination were fine. So she was penalized for that last small jump and -0.9 is correct UNDER THE RULES.

Yet Yuna's fans' logic is : There was a stumble, Adelina's performance wasn't perfect, so Yuna should win because she skated more perfectly and there wasn't an obvious flaw in her performance!

Again, as many of us pointed out, Adelina gamed the CoP better than Yuna, she did win fair and square. This has nothing to do with whom is the better skater, etc., it was a sports competition, with specific rules, whom ever played by the rules on that evening to score higher, won.

If Mao hadn't fallen during SP, she would have gamed Sochi and won over Yuna. Yuna didn't bring her A game to Sochi, and with one of the lowest BV among the top tier, left the door opened for Mao, as well as Adelina, Julia and Caro, IF they were to skate relatively clean. I can understand her strategy - her opponents have shown very little consistency in the lead up to Sochi. At GPs, Nationals, Euro, etc., Mao, Adelina and Caro all couldn't skate clean, Mao even lost to Akiko in Japan, and Julia, though more consistent than the others, still looks like a mere slip of a girl. Playing slow and steady could win over more ambitious programs which were highly likely to result in a splatfest, like the Men's. Mao indeed failed to deliver her SP, however, the other two, Caro and Adelina, surprisingly skated their cleanest, and became a threat because of their higher BV.

I guess there are too much "Yuna's fans" out there saying that the judging was unfair. :biggrin:

A high-ranking Olympic figure skating official, who spoke to USA TODAY sports on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the topic, said the geographic makeup of the judging panel "was clearly slanted towards (Olympic gold medalist) Adelina Sotnikova," adding "this is what they can do." "How the hell were Yuna and Sotnikova so close in the components, I just don't get it?" exclaimed Canadian great Kurt Browning. four-time world champion "Yuna Kim outskated her, full stop,” Browning said. “I'm shocked. What, suddenly, she just became a better skater overnight? I don't know what happened. I'm still trying to figure it out."

Dick Button, skating legend - Sotnikova has no dance ability no performance level but great sense of not wilting. Sotnikova was energetic, strong, commendable, but not a complete skater. Sotnikova: Great effect, ugly catch-foot, wild enthusiasm, truly competitive, fun to watch and certainly needs refinement. At one point, I had doubts regarding Yu-Na Kim - not after today. She was superb, elegant, charming. Never a wilt. Dear Yu-Na, you are a true champion. When I criticize, I believe in recognizing changes. You were a different skater today. Congratulations! Yuna charming here subjective elements in the component scores ( the artistry) were outstanding ...... David Wilson was extraordinary choice to choreograph. He understood her weaknesses as well as her strengths. This was a change for her.

Katarina Witt, the former East German glamour queen of the ice, "I am stunned by this result, I don't understand the scoring," German TV from her commentators' booth at the Iceberg Skating Palace.

British Robin Cousins olympic gold medalist - BBC commentator I put my commentator hat down, and I was an Olympic skater and a performer watching, and Yuna Kim was as good as over and I went, ladies and gentlemen there you have it the gold medal. I bit my tongue a little bit, I thought you should never say that before it's actually there in black and white, and then seeing the replay and seeing the reaction I thought, oh okay, oh maybe I'm, maybe it was something I was feeling, but after the result was up, and I have to be honest I looked across at a couple of other, Kurt Browning, umm Katarina Witt I know was apparently in the studio, and I looked at the German commentator and he went, how did they do that how did that happen. And he said Katarina's over in the screaming in the studio that she thinks it's wrong. And Kurt said I just you know I thought, and they also did what I did, they called it before Yuna had finished, so, umm I thought they were both brilliant and it's very similar to the ice dance with the Canadians and the Americans, which camp are you in, but Yuna has such a supreme quality over every single move. Sotnika was though vivacious and it was aggressive and it was a one-off moment that happened in front of a home crowd.

Alex Goldberger, Olympics researcher at US broadcaster NBC said “Adelina Sotnikova was excellent tonight, but Yuna Kim was robbed”.


Three-time U.S. national champion Michael Weiss - But, couldn't disagree more that Yuna &Sotnikova had basically same Component marks?..in Both short & long? Home field inflation "If Adelina was not from Russia, she would never get those marks," Dave Lease, of Skating Lesson, a blog focused on the intricacies and nuances of figure skating disciplines and competitions. "There's no way to justify Sotnikova's marks,"

Jamie Sale Canadian Gold Medal Winning Skater: -Ok I'm not a judge but I just watched the #womansfigureskating again + I STRONGLY disagree w results like MANY others. #ISU now what? -I would have had Yuna 1, Carolina 2 and Adelina 3 -nothing against ANY skaters, Adeline was gr8 but not at the level of Yuna or Carolina. CNN Interview - I guess we'll never really know until somebody does speak, and like they did in Salt Lake City, but it is very suspicious. We're all very frustrated this whole you know, every time there's a scandal there's Russians involved, but you've got two judges the on panel on this panel, one is a judge one suspended in 1998 for trying to fix the dance event. And the other is the wife of the Russian Federation President.

Brian Boitano - I don't think that Yuna Kim should have been as close to Sotnikova after the short program, and I think that is the gap that should not have been bridged so that Yuna Kim would have been a two-time Olympic Champion. http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2...ano-sochi-figure-skating-controversy.cnn.html

Naomi Nari Nam, the 1999 silver medalist at the U.S. national championships, watched the competition and came away with feelings similar to Lease's. She says that she felt like Kim, not Sotnikova, was her pick to win gold. "I definitely think it was home court advantage [for Sotnikova]," she told The Wire. "It was very inflated."

American skater Ryan Bradley After the SP -You can not tell me that Ashley being in 5th makes any sense. There is a girl (LIPNITSKAYA Yulia) back there with ice burn on her face ahead of her After Carolina's FS -I feel like the panel just kind of took a crap on Carolina right there -Let's not forget the mandatory "Skating while not being Russian" deduction After Yuna's FS skate: -Any other country in the world and this isn't even close. -You have got to be Kidding me. I can't handle them justifying this -Are we just going to ignore that she (Adelina) botched the landing of her 3 jump and pretend she was perfect? -This post event wrap up is making my blood boil

American World Champion skater Todd Eldredge - After Yuna's SP #YunaKim = Skating perfection! #Sochi2014 #Olympics
After the FS -Apparently panel felt Sotnikova had better skating skills than Kostner & almost same as Kim
#Sochi2014” Emphatically disagree!
My favorite thing is Sotnikova gets a 9.50 for choreography but Kostner gets a 9.21” Shame on judges!
Foolishness!

American World Champion Skater Tai Babilonia After Adelina's FS score was announced -the fix is in :{ #sochi #joke After Yuna's FS score announced -this is why people laugh at it :{ #figureskating #mysport #corrupt

American skater Douglas Razzano After Yulia's FS -AHEAD OF MAO?!?!? Here we go... #No #Sochi2014 After Carolina's FS -FORZA, Carolina!!!! Ahhhh! Stunning! #Sochi2014 Before Adelina's FS -@RyanSBradley FOR SURE. Lakernik is calling! Can't forget that! After Yuna's FS -@SkatingLesson I'm angry. -@SkatingLesson @Adaripp If the Russian girls don't get called for flutzes, Mirai should never be called on an under-rotation call EVER.

Bill Plaschke (American Sports Journalist) -Sochi Olympics: Yuna Kim's flawless performance cuts no ice in a Russian arena -Russians needed a champion after last night's hockey debacle, they got one..at expense of Korea...How can leader skate perfect and lose?. -Kim didn't win...unbelievable...scandal written all over this...Russian Sotnikova wins, fans going crazy, Kim disappears, wrong, wrong, -Queen Yuna Kim was unbelievable.nearly perfect. better than Sotnikova...if she is not Olympic champion in about 5 minutes, a huge scandal

ESPN Official Website News Article titled "Home Cooking", "Home-Ice Advantage"

El Mundo - "Sotnikova da a Rusia el oro más polémico" Los medios extranjeros buscan una explicación 'racional' a la nota de Adelina http://www.elmundo.es/deportes/2014/02/20/5306824422601dc45e8b4582.html

Jesse Helms - That's why the ISU judges began to award a pile of GOE on the young skaters' poor quality jump in the Grand Prix as long as they managed to land them. You don't have to be an expert. Adelina Sotnikova or Julia Lipnitskaia for that matter didn't change much or only improve mildly from their junior performances. In the 2013 Worlds Adelina Sotnikova's perfect short program which is an almost exact replica of hers in Sochi earned barely 60. Now nearly 75? Are you kidding? If judged correctly, Sotnikova should have scored 65 or less in short and 135 in free, which gives her less than 200

LA Times reporter John Cherwa's interview of Chicago Tribune reporter Phillip Hersh - My biggest problem with this whole controversy today is that the federation that governs this sport, the International Skating Union provides nobody with any explanations for anything. For instance, why did they allow conflicts of interests like having the wife of a Russian Federation official on the panel. Why did they let an ex-cheater be on the panel. Why did the levels that Yuna Kim receive for a couple of her elements which were lower, why were those deductions made. I mean, they expect us to swallow these results whole, yet we're in the 21st century, and they're operating as if they were in the Middle Ages when they would disseminate information which would wander around the earth and get back to us in a month. The biggest problem I have with all of this is the intractability and intransigence and obfuscation provided by the International Federation, which is I say might have good reasons for why the scores were what they were, but by not telling us they're only fueling this feeling that it's all fixed

American reporter for USAToday Christine Brennan - Many in skating questioning gold medalist, other placements -- and ridiculously high marks for Russians throughout the Olympics

"That's not fair to see Carolina and Yuna, who have great skating skills and had great skating tonight -- good jumps, nice presence on the ice, maturity, expression -- could be six points behind somebody who has tremendous skill but is just coming out of juniors," said Gwendal Peizerat, the 2002 ice dancing gold medalist from France, "Compared to Carolina, compared to Yuna, something has happened."

Paul Wylie, the 1992 Olympic silver medalist -
I asked Wylie how he would explain Sotnikova’s sudden improvement to the casual fan. He paused, and couldn’t come up with an answer.
“It’s figure skating at its finest, right?” he said.
Everyone around him laughed.

Sky Italia's reaction http://vimeo.com/89457478
 

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my mistake on the first one, but that's why I later stated that Olga Baranova and Alexander Lakernik can overrule Technical Specialist.

Again, why are you excluding Gusmeroli in all this? Why are you accusing Baranova? Based on which evidence? How do you know who made the decisions? You can't even answer this question.

She is, why would she say something that contradicts her own writing?

She is not, and she is not contradicting her own writing at all. Basically she is saying that by all accounts Baranova is good at her job, so she does not have an issue with her, as other media seemed to have by including her name in the mix. Shamefully I must say.
She does have an issue with Alla, Lakernik and Balkov. So that's not a contradiction at all.


Why is the fact that those judges made mistake not relevant on what we are discussing? We are talking about the qualification of those judges.

No, me and you were talking about why Alla should quit her job, why Lakernik should be banned, and why Baranova is corrupt, all according to you.
Basically we were talking about conflict of interest, and not slow-motion video replay system, and qualification of the judges.

So you are the one who thinks that those judges are adroit!! Even though they missed Sotnikova's under-rotation and wrong edges???

I'm the one who thinks judges are better equipped and have more expertise than you and I put together, yes.
Are they infallible? No. Was the result questionable? Yes. Was it rigged? I don't know. I have no evidence to support that.
I will wait and see if there is an investigation or a response to the KSU official complain. I will give my judgment accordingly.

Lol you should tell me more korean and canadian judges.

Educate yourself. The information is available for all out there, just don't be selective. Easy.

They are just one, while in this Sochi scandal, it's more than that.

Oh right. No problem then. :laugh:

Free Skating – Panel of Judges : Home Cooking System : Technical Controller : Lakernik Alexander (Russia : Russian federation's former vice-president), Assistant Technical Specialist : Baranova Olga (Russian naturalized : Finland, have coached in Russia), Judges : Zanna Kulik(estonian-soviet union), Yuri Balkov(no need to mention ;)), Shekhovtseva Alla(wife of russian federation general director) , Replay Operator: Alexander Kuznetsov(russian)

All these people are corrupted because...you say so?

Okay let's just assume that these judges may have judged without bias and with honesty.
Then would you like to explain why these statistical analysis indicates that the judging was clearly biased? :popcorn:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q5f5ycxtb4w3g4u/SochiStatAnalysis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/3g8cai3hcbsovlt/SochiStatAnalysis_v2.pdf

It's very easy to explain. This is what I would call seghe mentali (Mental masturbation would be in english?). :popcorn::laugh:
Sorry but it's pathetic really. A statistical analysis for a "possibility of a bias", made by someone who maybe watches FS once in 4 years and "Obviously, I’m not qualified to comment the results" as per his own words, and have no idea who gave what?!

I don't agree with the final result, but I don't have to engage myself in statistical data which proves absolutely nothing.
But good luck to you, if you're aiming to study statistics. I will continue to not consider FS as a statistical sport.
 

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This is the second time I've seen this idiotic suggestion in this thread, and the second time I've laughed and known immediately that the person actually has no idea how a tech panel works, if you think the replay operator was part of some huge conspiracy.

Maybe or maybe not. ;) If you keep keep repeating something endlessly, no matter what, it becomes true, a fact.
This is how it works if you want to manipulate some news. Baranova becomes corrupt because she has russian origins. Keep repeating that and it will become a fact that she is corrupt. There is no need for proof. Sad, but true.
 

cuon_alpinus

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Alba, I would kindly accept some of your previous replies.

All these people are corrupted because...you say so?

Not I say so, but many people say so. and are being suspicious of that panel. Just look at those panels. I am not saying that they definitely contributed to the scandal. But it definitely looks questionable and suspicious, concerning that the results were unfair. :) You said that you don't agree with the final result, which also can be interpreted as you don't agree with those judges' decision.

It's very easy to explain. This is what I would call seghe mentali (Mental masturbation would be in english?). :popcorn::laugh:
Sorry but it's pathetic really. A statistical analysis for a "possibility of a bias", made by someone who maybe watches FS once in 4 years and "Obviously, I’m not qualified to comment the results" as per his own words, and have no idea who gave what?! I don't agree with the final result, but I don't have to engage myself in statistical data which proves absolutely nothing.

Of course that Italian Physicist(member of CERN) didn't watch FS very often. He even stated in his powerpoint that he is not very knowledgeable in FS on a technical part. :biggrin: But he can definitely study how scoring system works and make statistical analysis out of it. The analysis was written under the notion that the judges have scored without bias. Statistics just confirms what everybody already knows. :yes: And it is an unbiased information I should say.
 

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This thread no longer has anything to do with South Korea filing (or not filing) any complaint.

It's now simply the "controversy" thread, yet again.

The same tired, old, pointless, Olympic conspiracy theories and their counters. Opinions presented as fact or "proof" of conspiracy... statistics presented as "proof" of conspiracy (lol). No actual evidence or proof presented for anything. Pointless. Going nowhere. Just like the original "controversy" thread and everything that got merged into it.

Life goes on. Try it.
 

cuon_alpinus

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This thread no longer has anything to do with South Korea filing (or not filing) any complaint.

It's now simply the "controversy" thread, yet again.

The same tired, old, pointless, Olympic conspiracy theories and their counters. Opinions presented as fact or "proof" of conspiracy... statistics presented as "proof" of conspiracy (lol). No actual evidence or proof presented for anything. Pointless. Going nowhere. Just like the original "controversy" thread and everything that got merged into it.

Life goes on. Try it.

No offense, but
In fact we were just discussing what KSU/KOC might have complaint about, since we still don't know what their content would be.
But it is clear that KSU couldn't have complained about the scores itself, but the judges only, according to those absurd ISU rule.
 

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Not I say so, but many people say so. and are being suspicious of that panel. Just look at those panels. I am not saying that they definitely contributed to the scandal. But it definitely looks questionable and suspicious, concerning that the results were unfair. :) You said that you don't agree with the final result, which also can be interpreted as you don't agree with those judges' decision.

No I don't agree, and yes it is questionable from my point of view, personal judgement.
It doesn' mean I'm right, and it certainly don't give me the right to accuse those people for corruption, without a shred of evidence.
That many people say so it doesn't make it a fact, a proof. I don't mind people expressing their opinions, like some of the figure skaters you mentioned.
I do mind though when they present their opinion as a fact, and I do mind very much when some jounalist (like Brennan who never bothered to actually learn something about FS, and I mean skating) are lazy at best, or biased. Love the gossip, love the controversy and cannot live without that.
I'm disappointed even with V&M whom I adore as FS and think they should've won. When asked about the fixed result between the USA and Russia (yeah right, it's a fact now just becase a newspaper said so) their response was: "well this is figure skating and we knew what we were up for when decided to do this profession." I mean really? This is their answer? I suppose D&W felt the same way in Vancouver, right?!
Who is right and who's wrong here?! All I'm hearing it's accusation, sarcasm, partisanship etc., and really it's becoming a farce.

Of course that Italian Physicist(member of CERN) didn't watch FS very often. He even stated in his powerpoint that he is not very knowledgeable in FS on a technical part. :biggrin: But he can definitely study how scoring system works and make statistical analysis out of it. The analysis was written under the notion that the judges have scored without bias. Statistics just confirms what everybody already knows. :yes: And it is an unbiased information I should say

I'm sorry but if the analysis was written under the notion that the judges have scored without bias, as he says, how the result it's not correct?
This is what I
 

cuon_alpinus

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I'm sorry but if the analysis was written under the notion that the judges have scored without bias, as he says, how the result it's not correct?
This is what I

He analyzed on the notion that judges have scored without bias, but after finishing analyzing through statistics, he found out that the judging was unfair as you can see those RMS. I hope this makes sense.
 

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He analyzed on the notion that judges have scored without bias, but after finishing analyzing through statistics, he found out that the judging was unfair as you can see those RMS. I hope this makes sense.

Yes I saw them but it doesn't make sense to me.:laugh: It's my fault probably, I'm not too keen in statistics.
They often use it in Football and they absolutely means nothing if you have not seen the match. Like when Barcellona has ball possession like 70%, and in theory it's a good thing. Well it doesn't mean you win the game though.
One team may have 10 shots on target and not score a goal, the opposite team has just one shot and score the goal and win.
Statistics may help to illustrate some of the aspects, it doesn't tell the story.
 

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Well, it made sense for Mathman :)
I guess that's how it's meant, to make sense for people who have the respective background.
 

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Well, it made sense for Mathman :)
I guess that's how it's meant, to make sense for people who have the respective background.

And that means what exactly? This is what I'm trying to understand. Are you telling me we have a document which proves that the judging was rigged? Because if this is the case, I hope KSU have sent these documents to the ISU as a prove, but most importantly people will be happy and we can all move on.
 

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And that means what exactly? This is what I'm trying to understand. Are you telling me we have a document which proves that the judging was rigged? Because if this is the case, I hope KSU have sent these documents to the ISU as a prove, but most importantly people will be happy and we can all move on.


I'm no mathwoman but I'm afraid it is not that simple. Numbers only indicate greater bias in case of both Russian girls but they say nothing about purpose or motive. So, it's still up to the human beings to decide and endure the sufferings of not agreeing upon something :)
 

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I'm afraid it is not that simple.

That much I understood. :laugh:

Numbers only indicate greater bias in case of both Russian girls but they say nothing about purpose or motive.

Of course they do, what else? Nespresso. :popcorn:

So, it's still up to the human beings to decide and endure the sufferings of not agreeing upon something :)

I really do hope we can continue to keep that privilege. :biggrin:
 

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And hopefully award kim with gold medal like they did in 2002 salt lake.
Actually I was hoping for that secretly from Day 1- to have one more Jamie Sale the Loser. What a shame it won't happen. Okay, I will deal with Yuna as just with the athlete who can't lose with grace.
it seems to me that Adelina is making disrespectful comments about specific country
We all forgot that Yuna is the only one who has the right to give disrespectful cooments about specific country: "Japanese girls ruined my practice. Mao Japanese fans put sunflower on ice." Blah-blah. :laugh:
 

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Just scanned through few articles and readers’ comments in Russian media still discussing the yesterday’s announcement. You know I wouldn’t be surprised if Adelina as a result actually may gain in popularity which has not been on par with Julia’s so far, OGM or not. But now she becomes somewhat of a martyr and in Russia, martyrdom is universally more liked than success… But that if she is smart enough to play it right which I doubt.
Meanwhile various FS officials dismissed the complaint saying that everything on judging front was above board and that Korea has no hope of overturing the results (i kind of agree with the latter)
 

Rubirosa

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If they want absolutely clean judging - they must remember how good was Kostnes at OWG, Yuna may be not first on this reason.
I agree that the only one who was robbed in Sochi was Caro. Her silver was gifted to Yuna who was worse in all accounts. If Caro got deserved silver, then Yuna fans would be whining about Italian consipracy because Cinquanta is Italian. THERE IS ALWAYS CONSPIRACY WHEN YUNA DOESN'T WIN!!!!!!

Pathetic.

And degrade female and pair skating dramatically.
Russia now is the only country which has 3 spots in all the 4 disciplines at JrWorlds, also it has 3 spots in 3 disciplines and 2 spots in one (Men) at Worlds.
I didn't word myself well enough. It should not be "shall not be a member of ISU" but "should not be a member of ISU" (if it is the right wording). I mean to object the presence of Russia in panel is possible only if Russia was not a member of ISU in Sochi and therefore couldn't be on panel in the first place. Of course it's not the case. Yuna fans are now playing racists card. Actually they were doing that from Day 1. Like with Estonian's Kulik or Finnland's Baranova. If there were called Kuusik or Wirkkala, they wouldn't be on Yuna fans' black list. :laugh:

The procedure of changing judges for LP was followed by protocol and all the rest is not within DC or CAS jurisdiction. Case will be dismissed. Adelina will be touring around cities and countries :rock:, Yuna fans will be whining rivers :cry:, all of use will have to deal with their multi-pages multi-threads nonsence :bang: occasionally finding it amusing :popcorn:.

Life is going one.
 

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I fully agree with you, but this discussion has turned out to be not about the content of that KOC/KSU complaint but the content of our complains. :slink:

unfortunately.. but you can actually smell trolls just simply trolling this thread.. thank god for ignore list..
 

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That’s what I’m saying! Samsung could do this easily ;)
Even if technology can’t replace judges –it can’t happen instantly anyway, it’s just common sense; the system has to be developed and tested first - it would be a valuable source of data, statistics, and trivia that both public and media like.

I doubt that Russian skaters will agree to use chips made by Samsung :)
 
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