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2025 Skate to Milano Women's Short Program

ANY Disney music is just not my favorite...maybe for junior programs for younger skaters. You are skating with the big girls (boys, pairs) now, so let the music reflect that! Ice resurfacing, so bathroom and coffee break!
 
It's a bit of a funny idea to skate to lyrics: "I don't know how... Watch and you'll see, some day I'll be part of your world". Kinda makes you think: I thought you already were. Skate clean, that's how...
 
Indeed. I was just under the impression +5s on jumps are generally reserved for ultra-c. If you consider some of the women's 3As we have seen. I think 2A by its essence shouldn't be hitting maximums. Anyways, I guess I don't fault the judges too much for favouring Kaori. I understand the high GOEs she is a legend internationally. Its standard sports practice. Ignoring calls gets frustrating no matter who it is though.
Why should it be reserved for Ultra-Cs? A well-executed jump is a well-executed jump regardless of number of rotations and should be scored accordingly. The BV and resulting GOE multiplier already reward the higher-value jump more.

A huge 2A is not undeserving of a +5 just because someone else (or even the skater themselves) can also jump a huge 3A. Daiwei Dai's 3T+3T, for example. is no less good than his 4T+3T (when he hits it).
 
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Why did I just think of TAT...?

CaroLiza_fan
Oh my gosh, uncanny!
 
Why should it be reserved for Ultra-Cs? A well-executed jump is a well-executed jump regardless of number of rotations and should be scored accordingly. The BV and resulting GOE multiplier already reward the higher-value jump more.

A huge 2A is not undeserving of a +5 just because someone else (or even the skater themselves) can also jump a huge 3A. Daiwei Dai's 3T+3T, for example. is no less good than his 4T+3T (when he hits it).
I mean if a perfect triple is executed with the exact same qualities and attributes as a perfect quad its theoretically fine to me but, I don't know if I see that happening. I'm searching past tournaments I'm familiar with and I'm not finding 5s or even 4s on non-ultra c for skaters I know have flawless execution. To continue this discussion I'd have to start comparing scores between skaters and I don't want to bring up certain names here, its contentious enough and perhaps not the place. Its not an issue I feel that strongly about anyways.
 
Why should it be reserved for Ultra-Cs? A well-executed jump is a well-executed jump regardless of number of rotations and should be scored accordingly. The BV and resulting GOE multiplier already reward the higher-value jump more.

A huge 2A is not undeserving of a +5 just because someone else (or even the skater themselves) can also jump a huge 3A. Daiwei Dai's 3T+3T, for example. is no less good than his 4T+3T (when he hits it).
Exactly. Kaori's 2 axel makes a bigger impression than some 3 axels. It's huge, it's crazy fast in and out. I've seen quite a lot triple axels from s junior girls recently but some of them are actually very small with not much air time. They can be done because the girls have very slim pre-puberty shillouettes and rotate fast but if somebody wouldn't write on paper that it is a triple axel I wouldn't even notice it's ultra-C element.
 
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