2017 CS Finlandia Ladies SP
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Polina looks gorgeous. She only needs to be more confident in her jumps. And let's not forget, that jumps for tall people are more difficult, than for smaller sizes. Maria S is also quite tall. Because of that, her 3Lz3T was huge. In my book Maria should lead the pack by a long margin over Carolina.
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Woe to them in that case. Dealing with being written about in the press, social media, and etc. is difficult enough.
| 1 | Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA | RUS | 67.82 | video |
| 2 | Maria SOTSKOVA | RUS | 67.69 | video |
| 3 | Carolina KOSTNER | ITA | 67.45 | video |
| 4 | Angela WANG | USA | 62.54 | video |
| 5 | Gabrielle DALEMAN | CAN | 60.72 | video |
| 6 | Alena LEONOVA | RUS | 56.73 | video |
| 7 | Brooklee HAN | AUS | 55.40 | video |
| 8 | Yuna SHIRAIWA | JPN | 52.98 | |
| 9 | Karly ROBERTSON | GBR | 52.21 | |
| 10 | Dabin CHOI | KOR | 52.06 | video |
| 11 | Ziquan ZHAO | CHN | 51.11 | |
| 12 | Yu Jin CHOI | KOR | 49.78 | |
| 13 | Emmi PELTONEN | FIN | 49.62 | |
| 14 | Polina EDMUNDS | USA | 49.62 | video |
| 15 | Joshi HELGESSON | SWE | 45.73 | |
| 16 | Anna LITVINENKO | GBR | 45.67 | |
| 17 | Alisson Krystle PERTICHETO | PHI | 45.57 | |
| 18 | Viveca LINDFORS | FIN | 43.12 | |
| 19 | Annely VAHI | EST | 41.83 | |
| 20 | Natalie KLOTZ | AUT | 39.45 | |
| 21 | Amelia Scarlett JACKSON | AUS | ||
| 23 | Seoyoung YOON | KOR | 36.19 | |
| 24 | Tina LEUENBERGER | SUI | 34.52 | |
| 25 | Jelizaveta LEONOVA | EST | 30.52 | |
| 26 | Marika STEWARD | AUT | 29.06 | |
| 27 | Maral-Erdene GANSUKH | MGL | 20.76 |
I think that's a little extreme. She looks like a woman instead of a little girl. I think that's an improvement. I actually like the program better than some of her previous ones. Her jumps are not there yet, however, so it's unclear if she will be competitive by Nationals. And I was disappointed to see her mother there with her. She needs a real coach.
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Agree with both of you.
Oddly (IMO) enough, I have seen at least a couple of GS members say that they actively inform skaters about fan threads for the skaters.
Although I believe the intentions of such contact are good, I am opposed to this practice.
Fan threads are not immune from criticism (small and large) of the skater(s).
And once a skater is in any GS thread, I agree that curiosity easily could lead to clicking over to threads in The Edge or competition threads.
Congratulations to Angela Wang on fourth place in the SP. Good luck in the FS :yay:.
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I'm so proud of Angela Wang. I hope she can hold it together for the Long Program. She's been so close to the Podium at Nationals and would it be HUGE for her to make the Olympic Team. As for Polina, this is about where any skater would be if they took a year off. I hope she loves the sport enough to continue on after this season. She's still quite young and if she loves the sport, I think she'll be back and better than ever. I am hoping she'll have a late season run. Better to get the kinks out here than at Nationals.
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I know the skaters are use to dealing with this and are professional in their sport to know people write whatever and mostly it has nothing to do with them. I think Polina's costume is great she looks good in a unitard. It is design that doesn't go with the music? It needed cut outs or sweeping crystals design down hips and much more sparkle I think. Just an opinion though. The color is also good. I think it will take time for her to get back so she just has to keep working but please please skaters leave your skates on in the kiss and cry. IT is not professional as an athlete to undress or remove skates in the kiss n cry. Just wait a few minutes. That said some of her choreography like the ballet turns into the back camel and the layback good! Her mind got the better of her but good first step.
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Too bad about this performance. But a fall, no combo, and 36.43 PCS?!?!?!?!Can't wait to see the 9.5/9.75's she'll be getting.
Very surprised she did no combo... with her experience you'd think she would? Still a lovely program, but judges need to score fairly. It's rather ridiculous that Liza is only 0.37 ahead of her.
Clearly she doesn't need a combo. She could probably medal at Worlds with no combo.
::where is the emoji of me rolling my eyes::
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A bone bruise caused by Polina's skates is what led to her inability to compete for a year and a half.
I imagine that taking off her skates immediately is a precautionary measure (to prevent pain and/or re-injury). And I don't blame her for doing so.
(And when I have seen other skaters take off their skates immediately after leaving the ice, I always give them the benefit of the doubt that they have a good reason for doing so. YMMV.)
:agree: The mittens :luv17: are my favorite part of Finlandia.
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http://www.figureskatingresults.fi/results/1718/CSFIN2017/CSFIN2017_Ladies_SP_Scores.pdf
Daleman had problems in all spins, step sequence lvl3, negative GOE in two jumping passes. Carolina and Gabi were only a point apart in BV.
Daleman had problems in all spins, step sequence lvl3, negative GOE in two jumping passes. Carolina and Gabi were only a point apart in BV.
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A little too close if you ask me. Lord knows I have respect for Kostner but, to give a score that big on a program with a fall and no combo is just criminal. Hopefully she'll have a better performance in the long. I don't blame her for her score and I'm sure she knows that this was not her best SP. It's the judges who need to explain why she is so close to Tuk.
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And there it is. 9.75 IN, and 9.50 PE for Kostner with a fall and no combo. And some other ridiculous things, like one judge giving Gabby a +3 on her obviously flawed combo
Judge 8 - Mr. Hans-Ulrich LÜTH - is my hero. Not a single +3 given out, and GOE/PCS was strict - even Kostner didn't get a single 9 from him. This is how judging should be. Not giving +3's just for landing a jump or executing a step sequence without stumbling (only +2 with a stumble, obvs!!
:sarcasm
, and holding skaters accountable on PCS for visible errors that mar the quality of the performance instead of trivializing them as mere "blips" or "non-disruptive" or whatever rhetoric the judging apologists seem to use.
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What interesting to me about Polina is that her style is changing, from something more purely balletic to something that has elements of the balletic but is more athletic. And I don't think she's mastered that synthesis yet (not surprising, given her time off the ice with the injury). However, even with the jumping problems, it made me hope she can continue to skate and see if she can make that synthetic style more truly her own.
This thread was a great read - thanks!
I want to add that I think it's smart from Carolina's pov to not add the combo to the loop, because she would have to sacrifice parts of her choreography (and probably spin levels) for that and that would most likely lower her PCS. I think this is the first time she hit level 4 on all of her elements. 3rd overal is justified imo.
Without the time violation Maria would lead and I would agree with that. I like that oldschool music selection for her and she looks much better overal than last season. Elizaveta is fun and engaging and if she's getting her consistency back she could be a threat.
I'm not a fan of Polina's outfit, but it's good to see her back competing, even if she isn't in best shape. She has to compete at some point and she's an athlete who I think can handle a mediocre performance (not like f.e. Gracie). So she should do that. I like her look on the ice, she seems faster and I always thought that she was a delightful spinner, so I enjoyed her performance even with all those errors.
I want to add that I think it's smart from Carolina's pov to not add the combo to the loop, because she would have to sacrifice parts of her choreography (and probably spin levels) for that and that would most likely lower her PCS. I think this is the first time she hit level 4 on all of her elements. 3rd overal is justified imo.
Without the time violation Maria would lead and I would agree with that. I like that oldschool music selection for her and she looks much better overal than last season. Elizaveta is fun and engaging and if she's getting her consistency back she could be a threat.
I'm not a fan of Polina's outfit, but it's good to see her back competing, even if she isn't in best shape. She has to compete at some point and she's an athlete who I think can handle a mediocre performance (not like f.e. Gracie). So she should do that. I like her look on the ice, she seems faster and I always thought that she was a delightful spinner, so I enjoyed her performance even with all those errors.
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I have to believe that changes that eventually may get implemented will address some of my concerns. I'm an optimist.
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