2014 Cup of China Free Dance 11/08

[alebi]

Not to be shallow but I never noticed Guillaume in tights before and let's just say that I had to turn down the heat in my house while watching their FD as a result. [blush]

AHAHAHAH

Guillaume is the solution for many heat problems! I'm going to save money during this winter

 

[WeakAnkles]

I recall the same sort of stary was with Tessa's and Scott's Pink Floyd Great Gig in The Sky in 2008/2009 season - so undermarked and unappreciated from judges - same was last season with Woodkid FD from Frenchies. Now, after all the rough times let's hope they'll be scored right

The judges need to take a stick out of a pertinent part of their anatomy and realize dance includes lotsa things, why even moves created after 1959. Yes, yes, they did a hip hop SD for juniors, but you don't see them doing it for seniors do you? Pah, what can you expect from a sport which calls women "Ladies."

 

[Alchamei]

The Shibs received a level 2 on one of the lifts... I guess that's why the lost.

 

[apple123]

COC is the best in terms of judging. No home cooking, rightful winners all around. It's brilliant so far!

 

[thoakun]

I turned on the stream right at the scene when Luca sported a cunning smile as he slides his hand down Anna's front body

 

[anyanka]

AHAHAHAH

Guillaume is the solution for many heat problems! I'm going to save money during this winter

I feel very dirty. Between this and the Fifty Shades of Grey, my internal body temperature may fool me into believing I'm in the tropics even though I live in the northern hemisphere.

 

[elif]

Ilinykh/Zhiganshin only team in here who got level3 for both steps. Now Ilinykh get rid of Katsalapov's twizzle and edge problem, that result level3's even in early season. A little bit clean work it will be level4. Too bad they lost spin and lift level.

I want to know Ilinykh/Zhiganshin's 3rd judge. That twizzle didn't even got negative GOE on short dance and it was more messy.

 

[wordsworthgirl]

If there are different winners for the remaining events. Let's say:

RUS: Bukin/Stepnova
FRA: Cappellini/Lanotte
JPN: Coomes/Buckland

Than the Shibs would be out because each of the winners would have a first place and/or second/or third which would beat two silvers.

But that is an unlikely scenario, since Weaver/Poje look good to win NHK.

I don't understand, Mrs. P. Coomes and Buckland haven't competed yet so they'd have to win gold and a silver/bronze in another as yet unheld event, right?

and the scenario is even more unlikely because Chock and Bates are likely to win in Russia and the two other Russian teams may well beat Bukin/Stepnova.

Also, are you sure gold and bronze beats two silvers necessarily? Isn't it partly dependent on scores?

 

[NoNameFace]

The judges need to take a stick out of a pertinent part of their anatomy and realize dance includes lotsa things, why even moves created after 1959. Yes, yes, they did a hip hop SD for juniors, but you don't see them doing it for seniors do you? Pah, what can you expect from a sport which calls women "Ladies."

I would probably chocked on my own saliva if all spec and ISU gave a hip-hop sd theme for seniors...Imagine world wih no Carmen, Four Seasons, POTO, Giselle and all that classical thing using all around

 

[draqq]

Disappointed that the Shibs have actually gone down as the season has progressed. They received 100 at Nebala, 96 at Skate America, and 92 here.

 

[tulosai]

I don't understand, Mrs. P. Coomes and Buckland haven't competed yet so they'd have to win gold and a silver/bronze in another as yet unheld event, right?

and the scenario is even more unlikely because Chock and Bates are likely to win in Russia and the two other Russian teams may well beat Bukin/Stepnova.

Also, are you sure gold and bronze beats two silvers necessarily? Isn't it partly dependent on scores?

No Mrs P is right. Gold + Bronze ALWAYS beats two silvers since highest placement is an earlier tiebreaker than scores (which is a different, later tiebreaker).

 

[draqq]

I don't understand, Mrs. P. Coomes and Buckland haven't competed yet so they'd have to win gold and a silver/bronze in another as yet unheld event, right?

and the scenario is even more unlikely because Chock and Bates are likely to win in Russia and the two other Russian teams may well beat Bukin/Stepnova.

Also, are you sure gold and bronze beats two silvers necessarily? Isn't it partly dependent on scores?

A gold and a bronze beats two silvers because the first tiebreaker is what the highest place you received at a Grand Prix event was.

 

[Mrs. P]

I don't understand, Mrs. P. Coomes and Buckland haven't competed yet so they'd have to win gold and a silver/bronze in another as yet unheld event, right?

and the scenario is even more unlikely because Chock and Bates are likely to win in Russia and the two other Russian teams may well beat Bukin/Stepnova.

Also, are you sure gold and bronze beats two silvers necessarily? Isn't it partly dependent on scores

As I said it's an extreme example and I don't see it happening. This is what happened in JGP this season. THE JGP finalists all won at least one gold medal..

Gold + Bronze equal the same amount of points as two silvers (26). But the team with gold would win in the initial tiebreaker because of having the gold medal (i.e. highest placement is the tiebreaker).

 

[Barb]

Very dissapointing FD, P/C were the only ones salvable.
Happy Shibs probably get GPF but that program

And Anna and Luca obviously are having other problems, injury or personal things, that was simply disastrous. They are not like that.

 

[wordsworthgirl]

No Mrs P is right. Gold + Bronze ALWAYS beats two silvers since highest placement is an earlier tiebreaker than scores (which is a different, later tiebreaker).

Thanks to you and Draqq for confirming!

However, my other points still stand, no?

Coomes and Buckland haven't competed yet so they'd have to win gold and a silver/bronze in another as yet unheld event, right?

and the scenario is even more unlikely because Chock and Bates are likely to win in Russia and the two other Russian teams may well beat Bukin/Stepnova.

 

[gold12345]

Great win for P/C. Level issues for the Shibs. Program is really soft and seems to need a bit more spark and oomph.

 

[ice coverage]

... Also, are you sure gold and bronze beats two silvers necessarily? Isn't it partly dependent on scores?

Per the first tie-breaker, gold and bronze beat two silvers.

Scores don't come into play until the second tie-breaker.

The chart of GP dance standings, in case anyone wants to take a look.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2014/gpsdance.htm​

 

[Mrs. P]

Thanks to you and Draqq for confirming!

However, my other points still stand, no?

Coomes and Buckland haven't competed yet so they'd have to win gold and a silver/bronze in another as yet unheld event, right?

and the scenario is even more unlikely because Chock and Bates are likely to win in Russia and the two other Russian teams may well beat Bukin/Stepnova.

Cooms and Buckland compete in Russia next week. They have a shot of medaling given the level of competition. They have a good shot at NHK too. I don't see them winning actually, but just use them in my scenario.

 

[alebi]

I/Z were the best in step sequences, they lost something in couple's elements which is justifiable

 

[WeakAnkles]

Very dissapointing FD, P/C were the only ones salvable.
Happy Shibs probably get GPF but that program

And Anna and Luca obviously are having other problems, injury or personal things, that was simply disastrous. They are not like that.

The Shibs's program is not bad. A waltz is an excellent choice for them stylistically. What seems to be the problem is Zoueva needs to get herself better tech coaches. I think it's been pretty clear since the Igor/Marina meltdown that Igor gave the teams technical proficiency, and Marina provided the polishing. The Shibs lost on LEVELS. That's very telling. Three level 2s for components. That SHOULD be a wakeup call to team Zoueva that they are in desperate need of better tech coaching.