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2015-16 Grand Prix Final Ladies Free Skate

The way people use the efforts of these athletes (mostly teenagers) to try and make figure skating all about their own personal preferences and just to be frank their personal hang-ups is downright heart breaking to see. It's too bad because I think a lot of people see the sport as something fun to follow and find being a fan of the entire sport a fun thing. And then there are those who just complain that the sport isn't catering to their own narrow minded view. Is it really so hard to come up with a constructive viewpoint that doesn't involve taking personal shots at the girls?

I haven't seen any skating yet but just reading the comments has made me a very sad panda :(
 
Evgenia was delightful winner. She engaged with the audience and the judges. NOT a single mistake,except the ! on the Lz. She was clear and deserved winner and congratulation for winning gold at her first senior year GPF!

Satoko wins my heart. Her jumps are small. But she rotates it very fast. First Lutz in the 3-2-2 combo was insecure. Her (2) 2A+3T look spot-on in real time. Also, she did really well on other elements. Her connection to the music is out of this world; Her body movements are so fluent. Her skating is very very expressive without being loud and literal. Such a noble quality:love:.

Mao.. it wasn't her day. She landed 3Lz and 3F-2L-2L, which she popped at the NHK. She doesn't need to prove anything. It is just her and the ice. I love her.

Ashley is 3rd in the FP, deservedly. She really does well when she is an under dog. Can't argue otherwise.

Elena, did she add more voice to her music? Okay, without being silly. She has a special talent to engage the audience and keep them with you. She makes everyone her fan. I hope she doesn't lose her jumps and does not sell her skating for a cheap music. She deserves better, much better.

Gracie.. hang in there. One day, you will come out of this fear of performing. You are no less a skater. Keep trying.
 
The way people use the efforts of these athletes (mostly teenagers) to try and make figure skating all about their own personal preferences and just to be frank their personal hang-ups is downright heart breaking to see. It's too bad because I think a lot of people see the sport as something fun to follow and find being a fan of the entire sport a fun thing. And then there are those who just complain that the sport isn't catering to their own narrow minded view. Is it really so hard to come up with a constructive viewpoint that doesn't involve taking personal shots at the girls?

I haven't seen any skating yet but just reading the comments has made me a very sad panda :(

I wouldn't limit it just to the teenagers, there have been lots of people complaining about everyone in this event :sad21: Kind of a shame, since there was a lot to celebrate today minus a couple of underwhelming performances. These 6 talented skaters all made it into the GPF, and that's an accomplishment in itself.
We're only about halfway into the season too, so there's definitely time for things to shake up a little.
 
The way people use the efforts of these athletes (mostly teenagers) to try and make figure skating all about their own personal preferences and just to be frank their personal hang-ups is downright heart breaking to see. It's too bad because I think a lot of people see the sport as something fun to follow and find being a fan of the entire sport a fun thing. And then there are those who just complain that the sport isn't catering to their own narrow minded view. Is it really so hard to come up with a constructive viewpoint that doesn't involve taking personal shots at the girls?

I haven't seen any skating yet but just reading the comments has made me a very sad panda :(

I definitely agree with this statement and unfortunately, this is nothing new in figure skating. Most of you know how much I love Maria Butyrskaya and if you follow skating you know that she didn't always skate great in competition. Being from the US, I was constantly defending Maria when on the rare occasion she would beat Michelle. In 1999, Michelle skated badly and Maria skated great. In 2000 Maria had a bad LP and Michelle was great and the chips fell where they fell.

It is foolish to blame anyone other than the judging panel if scores don't go the way you think they should. All these skaters work extremely hard and skate to the best of their ability. The rest is out of their hands. They ALL deserve to be treated with respect.
 
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I was devastated to be missing both the SP and LP for this event, but now I'm rather happy. Because if I watched this live, I'd be flipping tables and my house would've been destroyed by now. :curse::ddevil:

1. Evgenia: This girl is amazing! Skating last as the 1st-place finisher is very difficult. I congratulate her on her well deserved GPF gold and her back-to-back JGPF/GPF titles. But that's it. She deserved the win here because she skated the best...BUT THESE SCORES ARE STILL OUTRAGEOUS. In the SP thread yesterday, I said this:
At this rate, they may score her 146+ for a clean FS.
Although I was shocked to see them actually score her higher than 146 (nearly 148...), I was kind of expecting this, so I was really nervous even before the warm-up. But this is just messed up. That was certainly not 8 points better than Ashley and Satoko. Her TES should've been around 73 to mid-74, not 75. And that PCS should not have even surpassed 69. Yes, there is the "clean performance bonus" for the scores. But even with that it's still way too high. And the total score of 222...3rd highest-ever total score of all time. She beat Mao and Carolina's best-ever scores, along with Yuna's 2013 Worlds and 2014 Olympics scores. These judges are out of their minds. The word "confusing" will not be enough to describe how bad the scoring was.
2. Satoko: As a new Satoko fan starting from NHK, I realized that her other fans don't have to worry about her too much because she is so consistent. Her FS is my favourite of this season (and probably one of my most favourite programs ever). But the scores she got were honestly pretty absurd as well. I was only able to watch the results page live, so when I saw Satoko get a TES of 72.89, I was like "How in the world did that happen?!" I did not have too much of a problem with the PCS (though 66 is more reasonable), but that TES was very inflated. She was better than at NHK, but I expected a clean performance from her to score about 136-137. But even so, I'm really happy for her right now!
3. Elena: TES was okay, PCS was confusing. I love Elena, but given the performance she had here, I don't think she was any better than Satoko. In fact, she did look really tired here as well. Anyways, I loved the reaction everyone in the audience gave when she once again added the 3T to another jump and landed it. And even with some mistakes, Elena showed us that she is a fighter and that she is still capable of being on the podium even through puberty. Rest well Elena, and I hope that you give it your all at Russian Nationals!
4. Ashley: I knew it was a good idea to put her 4th in my predictions. Even after seeing her bomb the SP yesterday, I knew that Ashley would never accept last place and fight through the end. Her FS was brilliant and it was good to see it so close to scoring 140. This was the performance of the night for me. Like many of you said, it seems like Ashley does well when she is the underdog. I would've put her on the podium, but I'm okay with her being 4th.
5. Gracie: I do feel really bad for her. After skating so well at SA and TEB, it was sad to see her fall apart here. Like JO, she had 3T issues today, which is not good, considering that her 3Lz-3T and 2A-3T are her money jumps. Again, the PCS was too high but I'm not surprised to see that. Hopefully, she can fix her problems in time for U.S. Nationals.
6. Mao: I'm devastated. I wonder if she completely recovered from her illness. When I saw her results on the page, I wanted to cry. :sad14: Japanese Nationals is coming up in 2 weeks, right? I hope that she recovers so that she could get on the podium.

Along with the 2014 Olympics, this event is one of the most badly-judged major events in the IJS...at least in my opinion. Still not as bad as Sochi, since the placements weren't controversial (although I would re-order 3rd and 4th if I could). If this keeps up, we'll have bogus WRs coming up in 2016. The only skater in the current field that deserves to beat (or at least be close to) Yuna's WRs is Mao right now. Also, it seems like the ISU wants their judges to score PCS extremely highly this season. I have a small analysis of last season:
Best SP PCS: Elizaveta Tuktamysheva - 33.53 at World Championships
Best FS PCS: Elizaveta Tuktamysheva - 68.47 at World Team Trophy
Prior to the 2014-2015 season, Mao, Yulia, and Adelina were the only skaters in this season's field to have beaten these scores. Yulia and Adelina (other than Mordovian Ornament - which was also a badly-scored event) have never received these scores since then (and I don't think they ever will anymore, sorry) while Mao has. But now Evgenia, who just came up from juniors, beat these scores by incredible margins. Satoko and many other skaters have also beaten either SP or FS scores by at least a small margin. Many of these skaters did in fact get more artistic, but not yet enough for so many of them to be part of the exclusive 33.50+ group and 67+ group. Something doesn't seem right.
 
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I definitely agree with this statement and unfortunately, this is nothing new in figure skating. Most of you know how much I love Maria Butyrskaya and if you follow skating you know that she didn't always skate great in competition. Being from the US, I was constantly defending Maria when on the rare occasion she would beat Michelle. In 1999, Michelle skated badly and Maria skated great. In 2000 Maria had a bad LP and Michelle was great and the chips fell where they fell.

It is foolish to blame anyone other than the judging panel if scores don't go the way you think they should. All these skaters work extremely hard and skate to the best of their ability. The rest is out of their hands. They ALL deserve to be treated with respect.

I could not agree more.

And I do recall how angry Kwan's fans could get when anyone beat Michelle. I got so tired of the Michelle/Tara fan wars that I stopped following skating for a long time. :(
 
5/6 senior men were also invited as well.... Dice and Gracie missed out :sad21:. Less Pairs/Dance teams were invited too, only 4/6
 
German Eurosport are no fans of Medvedeva it seems. That's new, considering what kind of skaters they usually prefer.
 
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