You're hilarious.
2015-16 State of Russian Ice Dance
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I know, I even crack myself up sometimes.
EDIT: Now THIS is what you call HILARIOUS. Gennady K. "SinKats" were really fifth. Now this is how Russian Ice dance drowns itself.
http://www.stadium.ru/news/01-04-2016-gennadii-karponosov-schitayu-realnoe-mesto-sinitsinoi-i-katsalapova-na-chm-pyatoe
I never in all my life. The Russians know how to bring the DRAMA
It's in the DNA.
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They are still trying it very aggressively and that's why without B/s at worlds the last two years russia has done so poorly. Its not the only reason. Everyone can see how Russian dancers are not modern or up to date or really focus on IJS but having a federation that only supports one team is bad.
They must really be bankrupt.
Zhulin - interview about state of Russian Ice Dance
http://rsport.ru/interview/20160412/912510423.html
M/K done due to her injury.
So Khaliavin and ???
In 2014 I thought about I/Kh - not ment to be
, he seems much stronger than Zhiganshin, being able to deal with a tall partner for so long.
http://rsport.ru/interview/20160412/912510423.html
M/K done due to her injury.
So Khaliavin and ???
In 2014 I thought about I/Kh - not ment to be
, he seems much stronger than Zhiganshin, being able to deal with a tall partner for so long.
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Zhulin - interview about state of Russian Ice Dance
http://rsport.ru/interview/20160412/912510423.html
M/K done due to her injury.
So Khaliavin and ???
In 2014 I thought about I/Kh - not ment to be
Ruslan also dealt skating with a taller partner for years, so what?
I understand that the Russian Fed is disappointed, but what IZ and SK need the most right now, IMO, is a little bit of patience. They are skating together since 2 years and nobody can expect wonders from them.
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My God but she really does fade into the woodwork, doesn't she?
Someone needs to tell the Russian ID Fed, it ain't the twentieth century anymore. Wake up or get used to being a second tier team.
I know it doesn't fit into everyone's established narrative about I/Z, but the size difference is not an issue - the only time they've had a major lift problem was when Elena caught her blade on his trousers at Euros, and he still caught her and set her down safely. Meanwhile, leaving aside the first season disasters, S/K have had a lift deduction in every single free dance they did this season because he can't get the rotations in fast enough to get a level 4 within the 6 second limit.
Ruslan needs to work on posture, projection and extending his line, but they aren't a fundamentally mismatched pair as the programs last year showed. It's ridiculous how 7th for I/Z at Worlds after less than a season was perceived as a failure, & they get dumped for this year, but Zhulin talks now about how B/S would have been fighting for 5th place - wow, so impressive for former world medalists - and that everyone claims that 9th for S/K was promising after 2 years!
They all need to get over wishing for I/K back. Maybe if it was such an important partnership, Zhulin shouldn't have been slagging them off when they were still training with him, TAT shouldn't have insisted they moved away from the coach that took them to junior world champions and the best Russian senior debut in years, and the federation should never have let Morozov near a vulnerable teenage girl. The damage is done because Nikita is too proud to go back on his poor choices and Elena has realised she deserves better than someone who thinks it's OK to slam his partner into the boards when she makes a mistake in training. Even if it never turns into world or Olympic medals, it's more important to have a partner that values and respects you.
Ruslan needs to work on posture, projection and extending his line, but they aren't a fundamentally mismatched pair as the programs last year showed. It's ridiculous how 7th for I/Z at Worlds after less than a season was perceived as a failure, & they get dumped for this year, but Zhulin talks now about how B/S would have been fighting for 5th place - wow, so impressive for former world medalists - and that everyone claims that 9th for S/K was promising after 2 years!
They all need to get over wishing for I/K back. Maybe if it was such an important partnership, Zhulin shouldn't have been slagging them off when they were still training with him, TAT shouldn't have insisted they moved away from the coach that took them to junior world champions and the best Russian senior debut in years, and the federation should never have let Morozov near a vulnerable teenage girl. The damage is done because Nikita is too proud to go back on his poor choices and Elena has realised she deserves better than someone who thinks it's OK to slam his partner into the boards when she makes a mistake in training. Even if it never turns into world or Olympic medals, it's more important to have a partner that values and respects you.
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It is well known that they did have a romantic relationship of some kind when he was coaching her. She posted numerous unambiguous pictures and messages on her social media substantiating this, though they have since been removed. While obviously much younger than him, she was of legal age at the time. More is not really definitely known.
Legal in Russia, but not in New Jersey where they were based - she was 16/17 when it began, the law restricts relationships between people under 18 and those in authority positions as Morozov was in over her. The Ice House turning a blind eye to his actions for years (not just with Elena) is disgusting and the management of the rink should be ashamed, particularly as he was always preyed on students who are clearly vulnerable - Miki was very young & in a foreign country away from her usual support networks, Elena in the same situation and had just had Nikita cheating on her with other skaters behind her back, Vasilisa losing her partner and looking like she doesn't really have a career as a competitive skater. And once the girls grow up, wise up and realise that they are in an unhealthy situation and try to get away from him, he always tries to do something that will damage their career away from him.
Zhulin - interview about state of Russian Ice Dance
http://rsport.ru/interview/20160412/912510423.html
M/K done due to her injury.
So Khaliavin and ???
In 2014 I thought about I/Kh - not ment to be
I know for A FACT that it's not true. And Zhulin didn't say that.
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Well I used Google Translate, but the gist of what I think he's saying is that the whole situation with B/S is up in the air until it is known what the repercussions will be regarding the melodium. What I did find interesting is that he also said if she's banned or put on suspension, Soloviev will have to decide whether to leave with her or find another partner. Well isn't that interesting?
As far as Monko, he just said, I believe, she has recurring back pain and her future is essentially up in the air at this point.
Sorry I was more interested in what he said about Soloviev.
I do think it's interesting that he said Russia has to get its act together, because the judges are already consistently scoring their dance teams and second tier. Reminds me of North America in the pre-Belbin & Agosto era. He's 117% right. Oh and that it used to be a rule that you went with classical/conservative programs at the Olympics (Grukshuk and Platov's rock and roll program being the exception), but that dance is in a period of transition now and who knows what will work for an Olympic program. Also I think correct.
Did I screw anything up Snow? Online translators are not exactly reliable.
No, you did not. That's exactly what he said. Very interesting interview, by the way.
Everything is up in the air. With both these couples. But at least there is a light in the end of the dark tunnel for Bobrova.
Yesterday I read another interview with her where she said they're still training, trying new elements and stuff.
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This thread is juicier than any modern soap opera.... move over Empire. LOL. LOVE all the knowledgeable posters on here. Thank you.
Honestly, I have never like any of the three couples that dominate Russian ice dance now. I am not emotionally invested in seeing any of them do well and I find that I/K was super overrated but I cringed every time B/S skated. Hopefully there will be more fairness/funding so that the best and most-loved pair has a chance to win/have support.
Honestly, I have never like any of the three couples that dominate Russian ice dance now. I am not emotionally invested in seeing any of them do well and I find that I/K was super overrated but I cringed every time B/S skated. Hopefully there will be more fairness/funding so that the best and most-loved pair has a chance to win/have support.
Russia has an issue with force ripening their talent and not patiently letting them evolve. This is an issue not only with ice dance but almost every discipline. If there is any art form that needs time its dance. It's the Russian FED that needs to learn how to manage their athletes. And an ounce of patience wouldn't hurt.
One of the most interesting tidbits in the Zhulin interview was his comment re Alla S. who is married to Piseyev who ruled Russian Figure Skating for years.
Zhulin: "Before, Alla Shekhovtsova was closely involved in ice dance, now the federation pushed her a little away from this role. She works in the Technical Committee, and don’t care much Russian figure skating, to which she gave four Olympics. How she fighted for us! We had such a support from her! She was a fan of her work, as Piseyev. These were the people, who really moved the ice dancing ahead. I am very grateful to them for support when (Tatiana) Navka and (Roman) Kostomarov skated. And now Alla Viktorovna is really sad, and here you are – the result. Such people shouldn’t be removed. It’s my opinion."
In an earlier interview with Elena Vaitsekhovskaya Alla denied any influence
EV: I've always assumed you were quite influential in the RFSF (Russian Figure Skating Federation)
AS: I'd say the rumours of my influence overmarked.
But when Alexander Gorshkov was head of the Ice Dance Tech Committee, Alla was one of his favorite dance judges and she was on a majority of local and international ice dance panels for many years. She is now on the Ice Dance Tech Committee, but in the least influential position and doesn't have the same "connection" with the current head of the Tech Committee, who is far more judicial in her judging panel appointments. We see Alla doing more single and pair skating events where Russia heads that Tech Committee.
Zhulin: "Before, Alla Shekhovtsova was closely involved in ice dance, now the federation pushed her a little away from this role. She works in the Technical Committee, and don’t care much Russian figure skating, to which she gave four Olympics. How she fighted for us! We had such a support from her! She was a fan of her work, as Piseyev. These were the people, who really moved the ice dancing ahead. I am very grateful to them for support when (Tatiana) Navka and (Roman) Kostomarov skated. And now Alla Viktorovna is really sad, and here you are – the result. Such people shouldn’t be removed. It’s my opinion."
In an earlier interview with Elena Vaitsekhovskaya Alla denied any influence
EV: I've always assumed you were quite influential in the RFSF (Russian Figure Skating Federation)
AS: I'd say the rumours of my influence overmarked.
But when Alexander Gorshkov was head of the Ice Dance Tech Committee, Alla was one of his favorite dance judges and she was on a majority of local and international ice dance panels for many years. She is now on the Ice Dance Tech Committee, but in the least influential position and doesn't have the same "connection" with the current head of the Tech Committee, who is far more judicial in her judging panel appointments. We see Alla doing more single and pair skating events where Russia heads that Tech Committee.
What a shamw! And what a PIG !
WADA has just announced they will offer an "amnesty" to all the athletes tested positive to meldonium, but whose urine levels of the drug were under 1microgram. As it appears the drug has a longer period of clearance from the body as previoulsy suspected.. This only applies for the athletes tested not later than March 1st. So Bobrova should be in.
Reading the communication by WADA however one ends up with the impression that meldpnium affair was much ado for nothing or, at minimum, something WADA does not know for sure in all the biochemical, pharmacological and physiological implications.
By the way B/S impressed a lot at Euros and many pronosticated a medal at Worlds.
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