Jeremy Abbott is not competing this season. He is contemplating a return next season.
2016-2017 State of U.S. Men Figure Skating
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Jeremy Abbott is not competing this season. He is contemplating a return next season.
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How is Nathan the leader when he has one fourth place finish to Adam's two bronzes?
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We'll see what Nathan produces at NHK, but technically (even though different events yadda yadda yadda) Nathan's score at TDF would have beaten Adam's score at SA (even with the messy FS). I mean, come on, Nathan's SP layout has one extra rotation on both the flip and the lutz. 39.55 points BV on jumps for Nathan, 24.7 points BV on jumps for Adam... and that's just the SP
Not to take anything away from Adam who is skating incredibly. But one Chen gets his consistency going, expect to see some scores that are uncatchable by skaters who don't even attempt an SP quad (let alone have an inconsistent one).
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Doesn't Jason have a quad planned for his SP? He landed a decent quad in his free program so, he's clearly capable. However, with his ability to garner points in other areas, he might be able to get into the final flight with a perfect SP. It's such a gamble for him.
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Thankfully we get to find all these things out (i.e. how Jason and Nathan will fare in their first face-to-face matchup since Glacier Falls 2015!) in a mere 2.5 days. EXCITING!!! Get your Thanksgiving leftovers ready, everyone!!
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But that's just it. When he gets the consistency going - it's not there yet. You can have all the BV in the world but until it actually happens on the ice, it's just numbers. I don't doubt that he will get there at some point, but right now...Adam is still in the lead imo.
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You assume he'll actually get to that point before he breaks again, and I'm not convinced he will.
Yes, Jason plans a quad in the SP.
Alex came in second at Midwestern Sectionals. He had a rough freeskate (popping some jumps) to "In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel.
FS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYQlAlFN8Uo&t=345s
SP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_-rydHHmcE
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and technically (even though different events yadda yadda yadda) Jason Brown has the higher season score of either of them. If we are going to compare events Jason is in the lead.
But this is not a guarantee. He may not be physically able to do 5 clean consistent quads... we don't know. And we don't know if say he does get 5 consistent, if that will be enough for him or if he will start trying for 7 quads and be messy again. One of his battles for him really is learning restraint as he seem to want to push the limits.
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I think it would be smart of Alexei to stick to Juniors especially this year. I think it would do wonders for his confidence to Win the Junior Title and hopefully medal at Junior Worlds as well. Reaching your goals is a very motivating factor and if he stays in the Junior ranks it will be much less pressure as he gains experience before trying to make the Olympic Team.
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But Adam beat Nathan at TDF, so why would you even bother to compare Nathan's score at TDF to Adam's at SA?
Right now it looks to me like Nathan has enough stamina to do a pretty good 2 quad SP that will get him decent GOE and PCS, but unless he can replace the 2A with a 3A, he's not going to score a whole lot higher than he did.
It will be interesting to see if he sticks with the same 4-5 quad FS strategy for NHK, because so far it hasn't worked, and it's unclear how he can become more consistent with it.
Not in the short, but he could perform the other elements in his free program cleanly. He lost over 12 points on rough landings/falls, which means he could have scored over 12 points higher at TDF without the triple axel. (Of course he needs the axel, but he can score a whole lot higher than he did overall, even without it).
The crazy thing is that Nathan had negative GOE on the quad toe twice at TDF (and no combo on the second one). That's not normal. He landed that jump both in combination and out of it practically every time he competed it last season. Stamina may be the issue. (And the set up for so many quads may be part of why his FP feels so empty & worth fewer PCS). But stamina can improve, and that quad toe can be much more steady.
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Yes of course he can improve. He's a very talented, motivated and highly competitive athlete, so I'm sure he and his team have given the problem some thought. He did state after TDF that he was exhausted after his first two jumping passes. Until he solves that problem, I think it will be hard for him to earn more points in the FS as it's currently constructed. Unless of course the fatigue was just a fluke. I guess we'll see in a few days.
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Andrew's SP practice run-through in Tallinn by heeyuhee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_LLDNaxpD0
I'm surprised that they captured a non-Korean skater but I guess they're maximizing the worth of their trip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_LLDNaxpD0
I'm surprised that they captured a non-Korean skater but I guess they're maximizing the worth of their trip.
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Andrew's SP practice run-through in Tallinn by heeyuhee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_LLDNaxpD0
I'm surprised that they captured a non-Korean skater but I guess they're maximizing the worth of their trip.
:eeking: This fancam quality is way much better than the live stream although the angle can make the viewers a bit dizzy.
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NBC Sports preview of NHK.
Since they call it the most exclusive event in figure skating (?) maybe their attempt to jinx Jason by predicting he'll take silver won't work.
http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2016/...n-chen-nhk-trophy-preview-broadcast-schedule/
Since they call it the most exclusive event in figure skating (?) maybe their attempt to jinx Jason by predicting he'll take silver won't work.
http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2016/...n-chen-nhk-trophy-preview-broadcast-schedule/
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Oh, Skating Gods, I am covering my eyes .... if NHK goes "according to plan" with Yuzu and Jason one-two:eeking:
I like you Nick Zaccardi, but I will never forgive you if you have jinxed Jason:scowl:
On the other hand, from your keyboard to the Skating Gods' ears:yes:
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Rather like Ashley at CoC, Jason's second GP event ended up being one of his worst competitions of the past few years. :hopelessness:
Unlike Ashley, Jason faces rather tougher competition at Nationals. Any interviews and/or other indications of what happened to Jason here? Interruptions of training, struggles in practice, etc.?
On the other hand, major congrats to Nathan and Adam for making it to GPF!!! Very good for the US men to finally have some representation there.
Unlike Ashley, Jason faces rather tougher competition at Nationals. Any interviews and/or other indications of what happened to Jason here? Interruptions of training, struggles in practice, etc.?
On the other hand, major congrats to Nathan and Adam for making it to GPF!!! Very good for the US men to finally have some representation there.
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