2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating

[Spirals for Miles]

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Also notable names that will be here: Juniors: Sofia Baranova, Anastasia Kostyuk, Elizaveta Medvedeva, Anna Frolova (will be at jr. nats), Ksenia Sinitsyna, and Kamila Sultanmagomedova, although not all of these girls are in black (some are gray)
Seniors: Diana Guseva, Evgenia Ivankova, Anastasia Gracheva, Valeria Emelyanova, and Victoria Safonova (some names are still gray)

Hope Anna makes a point for inclusion at junior nationals

 

[russianfan]

Another KnC episode was translated. Gosh, i love reading those translations! Max Ambesi brings so much interesting statistics.

Interesting moments:

Zagitova won with another comeback from behind, just as it happened in China. Although this time her performance in the SP was definitely below our expectations. There were rumors of her having some small physical problems, but in the end she once again managed to make a stellar comeback. Her FP made history already: it’s difficult to do better than 80 points of TES. She reached almost 70% of the max GOE she could have achieved, and nobody has done better than her during this season. Medvedeva reached 58% of the max GOE she could have gotten at CoR.

Zagitova reached the highest scores when it came to the jumping passes, but she was also the one to reach the highest GOE for her spins. The max number of points you can reach through GOE for your spins is 4.5 points, and Zagitova got 3.85. Medvedeva was the closest to Zagitova this season, with 3.21 points – we’re talking about GOE only – which means that Zagitova is the one with the highest quality on spins.

Sotskova has been on the podium in every GP she’s ever been in, and she seemed doomed before IdF, but with two great performances she broke her PB and reached the final.

Medvedeva and Zagitova - if healthy - are in without a doubt, in my opinion. For the third spot: Tsurskaya or Sotskova, but let’s not forget Radionova often managed to do her best skates at Nationals. She is the only one, among all skaters we mentioned, to have won Nationals in all categories: Basic Novice, Advanced Novice, Junior, Senior.

 

[tars]

Radionova is the only one, among all skaters we mentioned, to have won Nationals in all categories: Basic Novice, Advanced Novice, Junior, Senior.

Interesting fact! :thumbsup:

 

[Grin]

Moskva Cup on January 13-14

Today a very large portion of the names stopped being greyed out, which I can only assume means that these entries have been confirmed(Paid for, perhaps?). It is a pretty big list, but at least includes Anna Shcherbakova for the junior category. Kamila Valieva also was supposed to participate but it appears that she has withdrawn because her name no longer appears on the list. The other name I recognize is Alena Kanysheva. For seniors, we have Ekaterina Mitrofanova and Sofia Istomina seemingly confirmed out of the ones I can recognize. Viktoria Vasilieva's name still is greyed out and she would likely be the most notable competitor in the senior category here.

It will be interesting to see how this competition will relate to the junior nationals that will be a week after it. At least for one person...

Can't wait to see Anna. Probably I'll go and watch her live )

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Lucky...

 

[Miss Ice]

I think Trusova has the same thing that Medvedeva does--she's used to doing triple toes so she has to control herself not to make it a triple!

Ridiculous. Doubles looking labored doesn't mean that it's because her body is trying to do a triple. I am a skater and know a lot of skaters who do effortless doubles -- their singles don't look any less effortless. I also know a couple who jump triples effortlessly (including a national ranking skater) and their doubles look just as effortless as the triples. Both in practice and competition. Stop making excuses for bad technique or bad jump timing.

 

[atsumiri]

when you have nothing to say ..... just say " I am a skater and know a lot of skaters"
yes.. right...

 

[Shayuki]

Ridiculous. Doubles looking labored doesn't mean that it's because her body is trying to do a triple. I am a skater and know a lot of skaters who do effortless doubles -- their singles don't look any less effortless. I also know a couple who jump triples effortlessly (including a national ranking skater) and their doubles look just as effortless as the triples. Both in practice and competition. Stop making excuses for bad technique or bad jump timing.

I mean, you're essentially saying that a skater who's performed multiple quads(even different ones) has trouble with doubles.

 

[Miss Ice]

I mean, you're essentially saying that a skater who's performed multiple quads(even different ones) has trouble with doubles.

I'm not. I'm saying the technique/timing/etc is not the best so it makes the jump look labored. Saying that "she's trying hard not to do a triple, so that's why her double looks labored" is simply not a valid excuse.

 

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I find "labored" as one of the most ridiculous words used by Medvedeva's "friends". Her skating is the most effortless, I would say weightless, among all the skaters of all times. I saw her live many times ("I saw her live" is sort of the same argument as "I am a skater" but anyway). She skates like a butterfly.

 

[Mathman]

She skates like a butterfly.

Stings like a bee. :yes:

 

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Stings like a bee. :yes:

I would not compare her with a famous boxer but still the analogy is hilarious.

 

[tars]

I find "labored" as one of the most ridiculous words used by Medvedeva's "friends". Her skating is the most effortless, I would say weightless, among all the skaters of all times. I saw her live many times ("I saw her live" is sort of the same argument as "I am a skater" but anyway). She skates like a butterfly.

There is a big difference between 'effortless' and 'weightless'.

'Effortless skating' applies to Marin Honda or Nastya Gubanova, much less to Medvedeva.

 

[russianfan]

Not sure if i can call Nastya's jumps "effortless"

 

[Li'Kitsu]

I'm not. I'm saying the technique/timing/etc is not the best so it makes the jump look labored. Saying that "she's trying hard not to do a triple, so that's why her double looks labored" is simply not a valid excuse.

I'd have to agree. Practicing jumps with a higher number of rotations does to a certain degree effect the same jump with less rotations - just look at the guys practicing quads. But that's more timing issues that would result in pops ect, it has nothing to do with what makes a jump look effortless or not. That is more related with how some skaters use their arms/shoulders for example.

As for Evgenia as an example - her skating does look effortless to me, but her jumps don't at all. Those 2 things aren't related. At CoR I sat next to a friend who really likes her and pointed out to how there is such a contrast between her skating and her jumps in that point and how she wished her jumps wouldn't look so hard. Evgenia is far, far from the only example though. I feel like "effortless" jumps are quite rare in general (in every discipline).

 

[Grin]

I'd have to agree. Practicing jumps with a higher number of rotations does to a certain degree effect the same jump with less rotations - just look at the guys practicing quads. But that's more timing issues that would result in pops ect, it has nothing to do with what makes a jump look effortless or not. That is more related with how some skaters use their arms/shoulders for example.

As for Evgenia as an example - her skating does look effortless to me, but her jumps don't at all. Those 2 things aren't related. At CoR I sat next to a friend who really likes her and pointed out to how there is such a contrast between her skating and her jumps in that point and how she wished her jumps wouldn't look so hard. Evgenia is far, far from the only example though. I feel like "effortless" jumps are quite rare in general (in every discipline).

At COR she was skating injured.

 

[tars]

Not sure if i can call Nastya's jumps "effortless"

We talk about skating not jumping.

 

[atsumiri]

HAPPY HEW YEAR!!!
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[Spirals for Miles]

We talk about skating not jumping.

But jumping is an integral part of skating...

 

[Shayuki]

But jumping is an integral part of skating...

I really hope Gubanova gets some help with her jump technique. It unfortunately takes away from the rest of her skating, too. She's so light and effortless when skating, even her flying spin entries are light as a feather. And then these jumps that look extremely muscled and laboured... It just looks so bad. I hope some of her potential isn't wasted because of the poor jump technique.

At CoR I sat next to a friend who really likes her and pointed out to how there is such a contrast between her skating and her jumps in that point and how she wished her jumps wouldn't look so hard. Evgenia is far, far from the only example though. I feel like "effortless" jumps are quite rare in general (in every discipline).

Of course it looked difficult, she was skating with her foot fractured. Even walking would be difficult. She was limping heavily. It's incredible she even was able to skate the way she did. Seriously, this isn't such a difficult concept...