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2018 Olympic Figure Skating Mens FS

Medals awarded later

I don't know the official reason but I think it has more to do with Logistics and Timing.

The medals are awarded by high level officials and I don't think they can be on the actual event site at the time the games are completed. Some games don't exactly finish on time. Also, I don't think they want the medals to be transported to and from different places. There's a risk of it getting lost by the staffs and also by the olympians who would be probably be busy with their equipment, doing interviews, etc.

For me, I am actually okay with this format and have the medal ceremonies done separately.


Winter Olympics have fewer events than summer, so they have a Medal Celebration every evening at Medals Plaza where all the athletes in every discipline who won that day receive their medals. Apparently, it's tradition and they do not do that for summer because there are many more disciplines/events/competitions.

The tiger is given now, whereas flowers have been given before. I understand that it was decided that the flowers were unsustainable which is why the Rio athletes received the small trophy/medal-holder instead of flowers. At least the tiger will last much longer than flowers. :)
 
I thought Shoma looked unusually pale and wondered if he were ill or had been ill very recently.
 
I'm still so happy this morning. What a night!
On a side note guys, anyone been on instagram lately? A serious question, if Hanyu retires before Shoma Uno, who is going to look after Shoma? LOL!
A huge congrats to all the medalists, and Boyang too.
 
Winter Olympics have fewer events than summer, so they have a Medal Celebration every evening at Medals Plaza where all the athletes in every discipline who won that day receive their medals. Apparently, it's tradition and they do not do that for summer because there are many more disciplines/events/competitions.

The tiger is given now, whereas flowers have been given before. I understand that it was decided that the flowers were unsustainable which is why the Rio athletes received the small trophy/medal-holder instead of flowers. At least the tiger will last much longer than flowers. :)

They didn't do it that way in 1998. Tara got her medal right after skating. I think they started doing it in 2002.

eta: I lied. They didn't do it that way for figure skating in 2002, 2006, or 2010 either. I think they used to just do it for the sports outside. Now they do it for every winter sport.
 
Hold up: I just noticed that the women get a day off in between but the men don't. How does that make sense scheduling-wise organizers?? Also, I think this day of rest before ice dance is nice but again I would have preferred if the men had a day off in between.

Amazing that they still held it together though! :yahoo::clap:
 
Hold up: I just noticed that the women get a day off in between but the men don't. How does that make sense scheduling-wise organizers?? Also, I think this day of rest before ice dance is nice but again I would have preferred if the men had a day off in between.

Amazing that they still held it together though! :yahoo::clap:
ineed, either all of them get day off, or none
 
Beijing 2022, final flight predication: Uno, Jin, Chen, Zhou, Cha and Gogolev. Unless Hanyu wants (and his body allows) him to go for the three-peat. Quad count, 24-30.

Quad jumps will be the new normal in the next 4 years. They might need at least one to qualify for the Olympic, unless from the country with a spare quota like this year Spain for example.
 
Fabulous night and proper podium. I watched the NBC broadcast and give Tara and Johnny good marks. One thing Johnny said that I agree with is that skaters are given too many points for badly performing or falling on a jump. Also, skaters like Kolyada were held up because of the quads and efforts toward quads. I like Mikail but that Elvis performance was not memorable and still had high components. Also, Jin's componenets were inflated, imo. There is rightfully a high margin of difference in the tech marks of a skater who performs multiple quads versus one who does not. But why is the margin of difference so small between a skater who has beautiful posture and skating skills with a performance that captures the music to one who does not? The second mark is still the cheat mark. It's where a judge can push his/her skater ahead or another behind. I look forward to the isu correcting this with some stricter rules on jumps .
 
Quad jumps will be the new normal in the next 4 years. They might need at least one to qualify for the Olympic, unless from the country with a spare quota like this year Spain for example.

I really hope that won't be the case. They really should change the BV or decrease the number of jumps for the men ASAP because it's getting out of hand. I'm not bothered by Nathan winning by spamming quads because he's actually working on becoming much better in other segments as well. But if Zhou and the like become the front runners I'm not following the sport. :noshake:

Actually I'm here for Dmitri Aliev working hard to perfect the quads he already does (T and Lz, and not just throwing in the the others and then under-rotate or fall half the time) and become a real podium threat.
He is musically and artistically right up there with Javi, Yuzu and Shoma. Doesn't have the skating skills yet but he has all the potential to go REALLY far. And he seems to have much calmer nerves than the other Russian men! I'll be excited to see his progress.
 
Skating Lesson is reporting that the chinese judge gave the chinese skater +3 GOEs on his jumps, giving less to I think uno and Javi. I did not look at protocols but it was implied that was an anomoly by the chinese judge

recently someone did a statistical analysis and found robust support for notion that there is still alot of nationalization in skating. That's just ridiculous. Chinese skater seems like all he did was jump and if it's true about the +3 GOE then well that was the difference between him and Nathan possibly. Could have made a difference in medals too if uno or Javi were slightly off.

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Why is it when I type Uno's first name the forum rules won't let me write it to refer to him?
 
Trolls aside, I think that pretty much everyone across this board wanted a medal for Javi after failling math in Sochi and placing fourth. For this, I am extremly happy, a career like his deserves an Olympic medal and I am happy it happened. Silver or bronze, whatever.
Yuzuru won this competition on basically one leg. A true champion who skated like one. Seimei is my favorite program and I am glad such a materpiece won Olympic gold. Shoma amazes me with his mental game. He will win worlds soon and maybe gold in Beijing.
Nathan had his Mao moment and fortunately he was reworded for it by winning the LP (while Mao was robbed of this acomplishment). He can go home pround of himself of how he pulled together and made history.
Boyang was close but to be honest, top 3 are the better skaters. So I am happy with the podium!
 
I think it's more he was really surprised! To win a medal at your first Olympics would shock anyone!

Also does Shoma smile a lot? He seems the serious sort so I wouldn't assume him not smiling means he's upset with the result.

I've seen quite a few podiums where people haven't been beaming, but I'm sure they're very happy!

During the medal ceremony shoma looked quite sad. i guess he really figured he was going to get gold- often the silver medalists is the one most disappointed than the bronze medalist. Javi looked happy on the podium as of course did Hanyu. Shame seemed in a bit of a daze -not clear if it was all disappointment or exhaustion.
 
Uno had a very blase attitude towards winning, and this attitude will serve him well for competitions.
 
:yes2:
(maybe I would've collpased by now if Sui/Han had been thrown into this mix of excellence/trying to focus on the positive:agree:)

me,me,Me,MEEEEE, those two comments combined are me-Federer,sui/han,yuzuru the three loves of my life!
 
Skating Lesson is reporting that the chinese judge gave the chinese skater +3 GOEs on his jumps, giving less to I think uno and Javi. I did not look at protocols but it was implied that was an anomoly by the chinese judge

recently someone did a statistical analysis and found robust support for notion that there is still alot of nationalization in skating. That's just ridiculous. Chinese skater seems like all he did was jump and if it's true about the +3 GOE then well that was the difference between him and Nathan possibly. Could have made a difference in medals too if uno or Javi were slightly off.

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Why is it when I type Uno's first name the forum rules won't let me write it to refer to him?

Well all Chen did was jump, jump, jump so why're you hacking on about "Chinese Skater" only. Chen was overscored on pcs given that he didnt put any attention to his artistry and only cared about landing his quads
 
HOLY Guacomole Poutine. Was sauntering through a search for mainstream media news and come across THIS!

https://www.thestar.com/sports/olym...-stop-nathan-chen-and-the-ridiculousness.html

I thought it was only at GS that squabbling about this topic occurred but it has spilled onto mainstream media. I bolded the interesting parts.

Only an act of quad can stop Nathan Chen and the ridiculousness

American teenager pulled off an unprecedented six in his free skate but his brilliance is largely one-dimensional — and it’s not figure skating. It’s gonzo, a mutation of the sport, and the ISU needs to put a limit on them before the competition turns into a jump-off, Rosie DiManno writes.

PYEONGCHANG, SOUTH KOREA — Stomp the quad.

The Q-virus that has infested men’s figure skating.

Because this is getting ridiculous.

Six quad jumps — five of them landed cleanly — by American teenage sensation Nathan Chen in the final on Saturday, vaulting him to from 17th to fifth after his seriously amiss short on Friday. Atonement, I guess. Lived up, finally, to all the hype with a gobsmacking free skate that scored — at 215.08 — the third-highest marks in world-record history under the present system.

Looked at another way, however, an unprecedented six quads at the Olympics didn’t bring Chen a world record.

He lacks.

A freak of figure skating nature, Chen can jump over the moon. But his brilliance is largely one-dimensional.

And that’s not figure skating. It’s gonzo, a mutation of the sport. Because placing half-a-dozen quads into a four-minute, 40-second program means little time or space left over for all the other elements that imbue figure skating with its artistic and athletic essence.

The International Skating Union must address this, must put a limit on long skate quads before competition turns into a jump-off.

As Patrick Chan, who always brought the best of both worlds to his sport until the jumping juggernaut marginalized him, put it following his admittedly botched farewell performance here: “This is a really exciting path that skating is taking. But there are consequences. We’re seeing a lot of walking from one jump to the next.

I’ll say what Chan, 10-time Canadian champion and thrice a world gold medallist, was too polite to state: Chen’s skate was ugly, stunt-ish.

Like how many freshmen can you stuff into a Volkswagen. Or how far can you run whilst on fire. (Which is a real thing, apparently.)

There was a girl up in Wasaga Beach who performed 20 grand jetes in 30 seconds a couple of years ago but that doesn’t make her Anna Pavlova.

Chen’s program was deeply unsatisfying from an esthetic viewpoint and unsightly in its choreography, despite being created by widely revered Lori Nichol to music from the film Mao’s Last Dancer. Technical wizardry, to be sure — 127.67 for that part of the score — and certainly redemptive after his error-strewn short in both the team and individual men’s event. Americans are puffed with pride. Yet the performance was all steak and no sizzle.

“The concept, the layout of the program, the structure have really been looked over,” suggested Chan, when pressed to give an opinion about a colleague with whom he often trains, a friend. “The program needs to be balanced. But when you’re doing five quads . . . I don’t blame the guys, I understand the need to brush those (other) things aside.”

Honestly, it was boring, if a sextet of quads could possible be described as a yawner, because they do require immense athleticism, precision and cardiovascular endurance.

I’ve also got to say, skating lights-out with no pressure on, was a far cry from the tension-dripping struggle at the top of the standings, amongst Japan’s Yuzuru Hanyu and Shoma Uno, Spain’s Javier Fernandez, and China’s Jin Boyang, another quad savant.

“I skate with Nathan every day and he’s had such an effing week,” observed the adorable Adam Rippon, arguably the most entertaining of the top 10 skaters — certainly off the ice — and he didn’t even try a quad, reeling off a brace of luscious, if relatively modest, double Axels and a quite gorgeous triple Axel. That nemesis jump plagued many of the elite skaters in Pyeongchang — including Chan — some of whom can turn quads more efficiently than the 3A, which is actually a three-and-a-half rotation jump, and the only jump launched by skating forward into it.

“The weight of the world was on him,” continued Rippon.

Well, no it wasn’t. The weight had dropped off after his disastrous short. Saturday, Chen could skate with abandon.

Figure skating, where the pro-Qs and anti-Qs have squabbled for decades — certainly since Kurt Browning landed the first ratified quadruple jump in competition at the 1988 world championships — isn’t a one-trick pony.

Men’s victor Hanyu, successfully defending his Sochi title, struck for four quads as well, a hands down on his final effort. He’s the entire package, though, monstrously talented. Chen’s teammate, Vincent Zhou, also acquitted himself beautifully, with a sixth-place result in the segment. Fernandez out-elegances them both.

“These kids!” marvelled Rippon. “Oh my God, these kids are out of control.”

Said with admiration, totally, but relief that he made it into his first and last Games without having to jump over that quad bar.

There’s another drawback to the multi-quad craze: It’s hell on the body. These teens are going to pay for it. That, too, should concern the ISU.

“When you’re pushing the envelope this much at age 16, 17, 18, it takes a toll physically and mentally,” warned Chan. “There are consequences. I’m curious as to what the ISU will do.”

Last word to Rippon: “This is the future.”

Actually, this last word to the divine Rippon: “I’m probably going to have a stiff drink.”
 
Gosh what a satisfying podium. You can tell the top three went out swinging and fought for every single element. It wasn't flawless, but it was full of willpower and grit! What more could you ask for an Olympic podium?? :agree::hap93::luv17:
 
I don't know the official reason but I think it has more to do with Logistics and Timing.

The medals are awarded by high level officials and I don't think they can be on the actual event site at the time the games are completed. Some games don't exactly finish on time. Also, I don't think they want the medals to be transported to and from different places. There's a risk of it getting lost by the staffs and also by the olympians who would be probably be busy with their equipment, doing interviews, etc.

For me, I am actually okay with this format and have the medal ceremonies done separately.

It's more grandious to do the big ceremony. But i don't think it's really logistical reasons - for swimming they always awarded them in the stadium, track and field too, gymnastics. Salt Lake had it this way as in Korea. I think they did it in Sochi too - it's more common for winter than summer.

They should have let the skiing people get their medals at the event site - i think they would have had to travel like an hour to go to the medlal ceremony . Not having the medal ceremony near the site may have cost Mikaela Shiffrin from winning her second race- she commented she did not get to bed until 2 hours later than normal because of the medal ceremony. I don't think they planned it that way - races were delayed because of winds - but I think the skiing events were like an hour away so for people who have competition the next day it's alot of time and mental energy. I thought they would have just done the medal ceremonies so athletes would not have to travel far. I think in other olympics the ones at venues far away were not in medal plaza.

Michael phelps would never have won so many gold medals if he had to run around to medal ceremony every night
 
Winter Olympics have fewer events than summer, so they have a Medal Celebration every evening at Medals Plaza where all the athletes in every discipline who won that day receive their medals. Apparently, it's tradition and they do not do that for summer because there are many more disciplines/events/competitions.

The tiger is given now, whereas flowers have been given before. I understand that it was decided that the flowers were unsustainable which is why the Rio athletes received the small trophy/medal-holder instead of flowers. At least the tiger will last much longer than flowers. :)

If it's traadition it's tradition from Salt Lake because I remember Tara, Katarins, Scott, Brian all getting medals in the stadium. I think even in Torino they did it in stadium as well as Vancouver though I am not sure. I just recall Sochi and Salt Lake with the stadium.

medal ceremony is either free or cheap so it may help host cities attract attendance if people are too cheap to buy tickets to events. creates a more festive atmosphere.
 
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