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Well, they are the same general genre. And there are so many others to pick from, that's the point.
It does get boring when a team never dares to venture outside their most successful genre for years in a row, even if they skate the divinest programs with great depth and nuance.

So beside the point! They want to go as far as they can in their own style. They are dedicated to bringing change to the discipline in their own way.
As to it getting boring ... nope, not for me. The constant merry-go-round of genres is what bores me... we never get anywhere, in my opinion.
 
So beside the point! They want to go as far as they can in their own style. They are dedicated to bringing change to the discipline in their own way.
As to it getting boring ... nope, not for me. The constant merry-go-round of genres is what bores me... we never get anywhere, in my opinion.

Me too. It's much more interesting to me for a team to go vertical ... go deeper and aim for the stars ... than to go horizontal, aiming for a smorgasbord of genres.
 
It's funny that everyone wants to go deeper in one genre when the SD is there to force the exact opposite.

If we didn't have the SD would everyone who doesn't try different things just be doing their one style over and over? Yikes.
 
V/M got their spot on the GPF. Barring disaster they'll go as 2nd. We can assume that Shibs will go too since they'll need something like a 5th place not to go. WeaPo just need that 3rd place. They actually won the tie-break again H/D.

If C/B are second in France, they'll go. Then it's a tie-breaker between H/D, C/L and WeaPo (assuming hose 2 are 3rd) for 2 spots remaining which means WeaPo gets to go and C/L have to score better than H/D which might be a bit too hard (assuming they are 2nd in America). They are all already higher than B/S so I think those are out. Result : V/M, P/C, Shibs, H/D, C/B and WeaPo get to go.
If WeaPo are 2nd, it's almost the same case scenario, but for now C/L beats C/B on the tie-breaker. Results : V/M, P/C, Shibs, H/D,WeaPo and last spot between C/B and C/L (C/L has the edge for now).
Of course, it all crumbles down if both C/B and C/L scores more than 190.01 points (WeaPo score in Canada).
But the 2 case scenario are the most likely to happen because of WeaPo and H/D scores.
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V/M (well Tessa) wanted Bride&Prejudice (also Romeo&Juliet I think ? correct me if I'm wrong ! )
Please allow me to correct you: it's written Bride and Breadjudice. (No pun intended.)

(Please forgive me dear Anyasnake, but I simply couldn't resist... Please make fun of me as much as you like. And be reassured that I absolutely don't want to hurt anyone.)
 
Please allow me to correct you: it's written Bride and Breadjudice. (No pun intended.)

(Please forgive me dear Anyasnake, but I simply couldn't resist... Please make fun of me as much as you like. And be reassured that I absolutely don't want to hurt anyone.)

Hahaha there is absolutely no issue, we could all use a laugh right now ! :laugh:
 
Me too. It's much more interesting to me for a team to go vertical ... go deeper and aim for the stars ... than to go horizontal, aiming for a smorgasbord of genres.

So the assumption is that if you do different things you'll by default do them poorly? Besides, trying different things makes you a better and more well-rounded performer. It's learning experience.
 
So the assumption is that if you do different things you'll by default do them poorly? Besides, trying different things makes you a better and more well-rounded performer. It's learning experience.

No, that wasn't my assumption, it was yours. The word "poorly" never made an appearance in my remarks.

When one experiments laterally with a broad range of styles, that creates one sort of experience, for the skaters (or artists, or musicians, or writers), as well as for the observers/appreciators/fans. When one chooses to deepen their own understanding of one particular genre or style, then it creates another sort of experience for participant and audience members alike.

Just as one artist will choose one method and another artist will choose another, different fans/audience members will prefer one mode of experimentation and development.

What I and others were responding to, is the idea, expressed very often on the forum. (not just in regard to ice dancers). The idea that every skater must expand their repertoire to prove that their versatility, or their interest in versatility, makes them better artists ... that idea is expressed across the board about singles skaters, pairs, dancers. I don't think it automatically makes them better artists. In some ways, skaters who choose to explore one style and try to advance their understanding and their art through one genre or exploration are doing something quite more difficult. In any case, it's a choice. Papadakis and Cizeron are perhaps the best example, or the easiest example to point to, as skaters who choose to have this different sort of learning experience.
 
It's funny that everyone wants to go deeper in one genre when the SD is there to force the exact opposite.

If we didn't have the SD would everyone who doesn't try different things just be doing their one style over and over? Yikes.

Who said anything about "everyone"?
 
idk. I personally prefer when people change it up.

As was my point. It's a personal preference. People who love P/C are talking about enjoying their exploration and development. And it's surprising ... because the assumption has been that versatility equals artistry.
 
As was my point. It's a personal preference. People who love P/C are talking about enjoying their exploration and development. And it's surprising ... because the assumption has been that versatility equals artistry.

I don't think versatility equals artistry but I think it equals a more rounded performer. I also prefer the technical side of figure skating more than the artistic side though I know that in the sport of figure skating they have to go together equally. While I don't like it when people stick to the same style I understand that wanting to improve and dive to new depths is what some people want to see. I personally just find it boring after a while.
 
WeaPo just need that 3rd place. They actually won the tie-break again H/D.
Actually, W/P haven't won the tie-break against H/D or anyone else yet and they won't have won it until they get their scores at Trophee de France, as at no point does the total score from one event serve as a tie-breaker (surprising as it may seem). The next tie-breaker after the points from placements and the highest placement is the sum of the total added scores from both events. After that it's the highest FS/FD score from the two events, and then the highest SP/SD score. W/P only have the highest SD score of both teams so far - (logically) no total score from two events yet, and no highest FD score (that was H/D at Skate Canada).
 
Anyasnake - A correction to my previous post (can't edit it on phone) - actually, the next tie-breaker after the sum of the total scores from both events is the sum of the FS/FD scores from both events, and only then it's the highest individual FS/FD score. And then it's the sum of the SD scores. Sorry for the inaccuracy.
 
Anyasnake - A correction to my previous post (can't edit it on phone) - actually, the next tie-breaker after the sum of the total scores from both events is the sum of the FS/FD scores from both events, and only then it's the highest individual FS/FD score. And then it's the sum of the SD scores. Sorry for the inaccuracy.

Okay thank you very much for the information ! :agree:
 
Besides torvill and dean....yeah? who else?

p/c are still very young couple , so please dont make such statements yet, when they finishetheir carrer then we will talk/ .You compare p/c to the veterans who once retired , they passed through two olympics, and not to mention T/D. Both teams had long carrer, not like p/c
 
Who said anything about "everyone"?

I am saying everyone. That is what the majority of you want going off the pages of posts here. Actually the majority of the ice dance world is also thinking the same. Why do we have so many 'lyrical' pieces year after year if people did not think that? More of the same. Actually now those who are attempting something different each year are supposedly branching out the wrong way according to posters here. So why bother? Except that the SD exists to make people change it up.

I also understand that this is why I enjoy junior ice dance. I get to see more variety as teams explore.
 
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