Never. Jason (and Dick Button?) were the youngest Olympic team members and I think they both were 19.
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Never. Jason (and Dick Button?) were the youngest Olympic team members and I think they both were 19.
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So it'll be a first then. Cause Vincent is 17.
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I just snorted and I have a bad head cold. I'll let you imagine what happened next.
I'm still thinking through this but are the implications here that someone like Ross or Grant had no chance for the Olympic team? That was Ross at his best and with a quad ending in second place and still nothing? Something about that feels wrong despite the fact that I wouldn't call it an injustice. I would have been more comfortable with Vincent being left off for Adam, but it was a tough decision all around.
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It is my understanding that Dick Button was 18 when he won his 1st ogm in 1948.
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Button was 18.
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Okay a few things..
I think thats what the problem is a little - what do you consider body of work? Their whole career? I don't think that makes sense at all.
If say Plushenko came back and his scores right now wouldn't really be up to par - a third like Ashley in a GP event but no other significant placements in the last year. Would he still get on the team just because he wan something five years ago? Especially in figure skating where things develop so quickly and peoples careers advance - and are over so quickly, I don't think its fair to consider the whole career for a decision like that. What counts is what happened recently.
Adams better results were more recently than Ashleys, which is why his is a completely different case.
Same goes for him against Ross - I'm not quite sure with what you mean with the 6th place at Olys since he never went, but he performed as a whole over the last season (last two seasons) better. He got to the GPF - Ross didn't even come close.
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Yes, now he has "permission" from Ross.
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The smartest choice that will yield the best results but I'm gutted for Ross.
As for the why have nationals argument, it's not like it isn't a criteria. It's just not the only one. They do need to have a major televised event with the team selection soon to follow in order to keep any kind of public interest.
I kind of wish that they'd do a nationals in December and an Olympic trials in January. That way a fluke good or bad performance gumming up the works and creating controversy won't be such an issue. It might also make them more competition ready if they had to do it more.
As for the why have nationals argument, it's not like it isn't a criteria. It's just not the only one. They do need to have a major televised event with the team selection soon to follow in order to keep any kind of public interest.
I kind of wish that they'd do a nationals in December and an Olympic trials in January. That way a fluke good or bad performance gumming up the works and creating controversy won't be such an issue. It might also make them more competition ready if they had to do it more.
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Then they should have won. All shenanigans aside, I don't think the USFSA would ever consider leaving a champion off the team.
I like it. It is the same way in US men's gymnastics. Only #1 overall finisher is guaranteed a spot at worlds each year (and the Olympics?)
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Yes ... Vincent did not even have TES Senior minimum at that time, but well there are other competitions that one can earn it before Nationals and f.e Worlds every year.
No, you're not missing anything. Anything's possible, but for Adam to be on the podium, he'd have to beat all but one or two of Nathan, Patrick Chan, Javier Fernandez, Yuzuru Hanyu, Shoma Uno, possibly Boyang Jin, Mikhail Kohlyada and maybe others. That's a lot to ask of him with his technical content.
Edit: This was meant as a response to an earlier post by Sam-Skwantch- I just didn't hit the right button!
Edit: This was meant as a response to an earlier post by Sam-Skwantch- I just didn't hit the right button!
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Yeah, I don't see it.
But then again, with this new era of mega-quads a splatfest of an Olympics is not out of the question.
Well BUTTON is 18, ZIPPER is 18 too.
That one is ridiculous though.
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Yes, thanks for the correction, Miner was a bronze medalist back at 2012 4CC. I was just rewatching his skate and noticed that his 4Salchow and 3Axel were reviewed by the tech panel and his landings on those jumps were not the cleanest as they were scratchy and you could see quite a bit of snow fly up. On the broadcast it was stated that the 4Salchow in the LP was the first one he had landed all week. To make a case for himself to be on the Olympic team, his landed quad percentages needed to be higher than that and he really needed to show he could do a quad in the SP too. Ross should be absolutely proud of his performances here though as they are a huge step up for him over the past 2 seasons. He should have no regrets. It would be cool if USFSA could at least give him a Worlds spot.
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What an unnecessary slap in the face for Ross!
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