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That would crush everybody (it's Nathan Chen territory, except for the 2A). Even if she lands three quads out of four it still should be good enough to win.
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If I was advising Sasha on a 3 quad program it would be:
4Lz-3T, 4Lz, 2A, 4T, 3Lz-Eu-3S, 3F-3T, 3Lo
And I would say only do 2 Quad Lutzes if you make the first 4Lz in combination. Otherwise switch the second 4Lz to a 4T and do 4T-3T.
4Lz-3T, 4Lz, 2A, 4T, 3Lz-Eu-3S, 3F-3T, 3Lo
And I would say only do 2 Quad Lutzes if you make the first 4Lz in combination. Otherwise switch the second 4Lz to a 4T and do 4T-3T.
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If she lands 3/4 she might need help. That might not be good enough. Anna can do 3 quads in a program (her last year program was 4Lz-3T, 4F, and 4Lz) and she does have her 4Lz and 4F back. She's also been training a 4F-3T. Kamila with 2 clean quads would also probably beat that with a 3A in the short.
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With the way things are going, 4 Quads (and doing the most difficult ones) without a 3Axel won't "crush" the competition. It will be just enough to win. Let's compare:
4Lz+3T
4Lz
4F
4T
2A (required in LP)
2A (required in SP)
--- 54.3 points
4T
4S
3A+3T
3A
3Lz (replacing 2A in the LP, since 3A already fulfills axel requirement)
3A (SP axel)
--- 53.3 points
Without the 4th Quad, Trusova loses to potential routines that people like Kamilla Valieva or Rika Kihira could pull off. Even with the 4th Quad, she could still lose to them on PCS. That's just for this upcoming Olympics too. If Trusova wants a longer career than just 2022, she will face a whole new wave of youngsters doing this kind of content.
Has Anna been doing any full run throughs of her programs before this week? I thought someone said she was only doing elements in isolation for the most part.
I'm worried about her stamina for the free skate. For that reason I'm not expecting her to contend for the win against Kamila and Aleksandra.
I'm worried about her stamina for the free skate. For that reason I'm not expecting her to contend for the win against Kamila and Aleksandra.
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Your layout is kinda weird. Is that for the short program only or both short and long combined? Or just a few jumps picked because that's confusing?
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She did her short in practice today. Not sure about her free.
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It's comparing the jumps that will be different in Short Program + Long Program between two skaters. The other jumps in both programs combined will be the same for each skater (give or take the difference of doing +3Toe or +3Loop combo in the SP).
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Small adjustment. Trusova would be doing both a 3F and 3Lz in the layout you said. Kihira already repeats a 3A. Maximising the layout you suggested of:
4S, 4T, 3A-3T, 3A, 3Lz-eu-3S, 3F-3T, 3Lo.
The 2A for Kihira is replaced by 3Lo which Trusova would not do, not 3Lz.
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My head reels at the thought that a lady figure skater can do 4 quads,but still there are a half dozen others can match her. The times, they are a-changing!
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Yes, but also depends on if someone does +3Loop combo in the LP. If they do, then they can include a second 3Lz in the program.
I think we can compare Valieva with Kostornaia's layout from last year. Valieva will have a 3A in the short and two 4Ts in the long. It's a little more in BV than Kostornaia's three 3A's.
Valieva will also, like Kostornaia, be showered with great GOEs and high PCS.
It took Shcherbakova three high value quads to beat Kostornaia at Nationals last year. And it was only just...
Trusova doesn't have Shcherbakova's spins and PCS, so yes, Trusova probably needs four quads to beat a clean Valieva.
But then again, Valieva has never landed all three ultra jumps clean. And her 3Lz has been a bit wonky as well.
And at this point, Shcherbakova will probably go for two quads and will most likely have stamina problems so I don't think she's in the mix for gold.
Anyways, it will be exciting to see how it all plays out.
Valieva will also, like Kostornaia, be showered with great GOEs and high PCS.
It took Shcherbakova three high value quads to beat Kostornaia at Nationals last year. And it was only just...
Trusova doesn't have Shcherbakova's spins and PCS, so yes, Trusova probably needs four quads to beat a clean Valieva.
But then again, Valieva has never landed all three ultra jumps clean. And her 3Lz has been a bit wonky as well.
And at this point, Shcherbakova will probably go for two quads and will most likely have stamina problems so I don't think she's in the mix for gold.
Anyways, it will be exciting to see how it all plays out.
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Very true. However, Trusova has also never really landed four quads clean (except at Japan Open). And her 3 Lz has been"a bit wonky as well". Really all 3 are having 3Lz troubles.I think we can compare Valieva with Kostornaia's layout from last year. Valieva will have a 3A in the short and two 4Ts in the long. It's a little more in BV than Kostornaia's three 3A's.
Valieva will also, like Kostornaia, be showered with great GOEs and high PCS.
It took Shcherbakova three high value quads to beat Kostornaia at Nationals last year. And it was only just...
Trusova doesn't have Shcherbakova's spins and PCS, so yes, Trusova probably needs four quads to beat a clean Valieva.
But then again, Valieva has never landed those three ultra jumps clean. And her 3Lz has been a bit wonky as well.
And at this point, Shcherbakova will probably go for two quads and will most likely have stamina problems so I don't think she's in the mix for gold.
Anyways, it will be exciting to see how it all plays out.
Yes, and if they all have multiple mistakes, I think a superclean Usacheva can upset things. After all, she did beat Valieva at Stage Two (without bonuses).
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Agreed. Basically all just to say they need to be clean. We're passed the point where they can count on being able to afford mistakes, which naturally increases the pressure on them. No matter what happens, I hope for clean skates and happy, healthy girls who no matter who ends up where did their best.
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-Oh, cameraman, here you are again...Sasha, you know what to do
- don’t worry, Anna, I got this!
- don’t worry, Anna, I got this!
Did anyone have Sasha removing the 4T from the free layout on their Rusnats bingo card?
From the Instagram videos of the runthrough, Sasha's layout is
4Lz+3T, 4Lz, 2A, 2A // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+Eu+3S, 3Lz
She didn't get the 3Lo out from the first 3Lz in the run-through, so she put it on the last jump instead.
I wasn't expecting her to go safe here (if two rippon 4Lzs counts as safe lmao). It really is anyone's game at this point.
From the Instagram videos of the runthrough, Sasha's layout is
4Lz+3T, 4Lz, 2A, 2A // 3Lz+3Lo, 3F+Eu+3S, 3Lz
She didn't get the 3Lo out from the first 3Lz in the run-through, so she put it on the last jump instead.
I wasn't expecting her to go safe here (if two rippon 4Lzs counts as safe lmao). It really is anyone's game at this point.
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Vintage Sasha
This video is like both of their personalities summarised in 12 seconds. I love it so much
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