2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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I might not like her jumps,but Anna knows how to stay on beat like Yuzuru.
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yep, now it all makes sense. once again, a teenager is the bigger person over a 40-something year old woman who twisted the story to fit her own narrative. i would be annoyed too. there is no excuse to have elite skaters on the same ice as little kids.
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Like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLtErS4hMPQ
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqnUPRC5ewo
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVj4_SjSos
She was always ahead in that, it nothing that would appear now. Of course, everyone can think different.
Sometimes fancams suit better to assess the performances: https://www.youtube.com/user/Svetapoln/videos
Eh, I've seen these but it doesn't translate to her on ice performance. IDK if it's bc her skating skills are holding her back or what.
Out of all the skaters, Kostornaia strikes me as most artistic and musical on ice. Maybe now Valieva too if she actually pays attention to the music.
Musicality is one of those features you can't 'see' unless you have it, at least to some extent.
This makes zero logical or grammatical sense.
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This is exactly what I see. A lot of comparisons between Kamila and Anna, but Anna lives with the music and it's in every movement, not just the accents but her posture changes and body movements with the phrasing, speed, and crescendos, where as Kamila hits the musical accents. That's the difference between innate musicality vs. being on the music. But, all skaters have their strengths and while I find Anna to be the greater artist today, and in any competition, Kamila would win for sure as figure skating is more a sport than an art. She has bigger jumps, better skating skills, better spins, and they are on part with transitions. Kamila even has better extensions and toe point. Anna's better in 2 PCS components which cannot make up for the technical differences.
As for Anna's programs, she's musical and expressive but I'm disappointed in the direction they took. She's very versatile, I wish they would've gone for a jazz, tango, or even something contemporary. I don't think anyone could've performed the it better, but the program is a bit generic. I hope her free is more interesting, the sky's the limit with her artistry, and they need to maximize that strength because her competitors are better than her in other areas.
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ha-ha yes!! He was very nervous! He was never so nervous when he skated! But his chewing gum helped him again he was addicted to it all his life!
Sorry, should've been more straightforward: I'm afraid your musicality is limited.
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That's probably something that can't be proven by the arguments the way it would persuade you, at least not by me. I think Anna pays attention to the music, is able to show emotions, can have the face expressions showing the "mood" according to the theme, her moves are synchronized and she follows the speed of the music. She skates light and despite she had to skate with the minors on one ice she kept those qualities for the upcoming season
Especially her hands. They are reflecting every music note in the most sublime, intricate way.That's probably something that can't be proven by the arguments the way it would persuade you, at least not by me. I think Anna pays attention to the music, is able to show emotions, can have the face expressions showing the "mood" according to the theme, her moves are synchronized and she follows the speed of the music. She skates light and despite she had to skate with the minors on one ice she kept those qualities for the upcoming season
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a few thoughts as i'm reading through this article posted earlier about Aliona's transfer https://m.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/russiateam/2829756.html
i really see and understand now what Sasha meant by needing more individualized attention and Zhenya meant by having more freedom. no wonder Aliona and Sasha left if they are putting kids on the ice with elite skaters and would not do anything about it, and it sounds like Aliona is ready to have more of a say in her programs and training like Zhenya was.
this part is also very telling of Aliona's mature character, vs Eteri's child-like lashing out:
I called Sergei Alexandrovich (Rozanov is a coach in Plushenko's group - Sports.ru): is this a situation, is there a possibility? He: wait a couple of days, let's think, this is your decision, it is unexpected, you have been working in Eteri Georgievna's team for so many years, you have achieved results. I am actually very grateful to the previous headquarters.
it's also interesting that she actually did like her Billie Eilish program, when Plushenko said she hated it.
it sounds like things need to change at Sambo to prioritize their elite skaters, and they should be top priority. i hope Eteri at least learned from her 3 big students recent departures, as i'm 100% sure she would not want Kamila or Anna (or anyone else) to leave. Eteri needs to swallow her pride.
i really see and understand now what Sasha meant by needing more individualized attention and Zhenya meant by having more freedom. no wonder Aliona and Sasha left if they are putting kids on the ice with elite skaters and would not do anything about it, and it sounds like Aliona is ready to have more of a say in her programs and training like Zhenya was.
this part is also very telling of Aliona's mature character, vs Eteri's child-like lashing out:
I called Sergei Alexandrovich (Rozanov is a coach in Plushenko's group - Sports.ru): is this a situation, is there a possibility? He: wait a couple of days, let's think, this is your decision, it is unexpected, you have been working in Eteri Georgievna's team for so many years, you have achieved results. I am actually very grateful to the previous headquarters.
it's also interesting that she actually did like her Billie Eilish program, when Plushenko said she hated it.
it sounds like things need to change at Sambo to prioritize their elite skaters, and they should be top priority. i hope Eteri at least learned from her 3 big students recent departures, as i'm 100% sure she would not want Kamila or Anna (or anyone else) to leave. Eteri needs to swallow her pride.
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I am curious as to why Sergei was only at the boards with Alena and not Sasha. It's not like they skated back to back, he had plenty of time to talk to Alena after her skate and then come back out for Sasha.
Just a random observation
Who was the lady who was there for Trusova, anyway?
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Are they in a position to? It reads to me that they do not have that much rink time, so everyone is on the ice at the same time. Eteri's team doesn't own the school or even the rink, the state funded schools are like public school if I understand correctly, and rink time is allotted to everyone at the school, across all disciplines. In such a case, maybe separating the elite and children would leave the children with no ice time at all? I vaguely remember Evgenia asking Putin for more funding to build a second rink for Sambo after the Olympics (correct me if I am mistaken) but so far we haven't heard anything about it.
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i guess i'm not sure, but clearly what they are doing right now isn't working and TT shouldn't blame them for wanting to go elsewhere with better training conditions.
Elena Ilinykh was at the boards with her, if that's who you're referring to.
I mean, just because someone doesn't agree that Anna is musical, doesn't mean that their musicality is limited...
I see it more like this:
Anna's skating is very light and feathery. She has soft arms and uses her face. She listens to the music, yes, but it all seems very banal. So many skaters have soft arms, listen to the music, and have those same facial expressions. She is musical, but I don't see anything special about her musicality that so many people here seem to see.
In the end, it's all a matter of opinion, and someone not sharing the same one as yours doesn't mean that they are incapable of judging properly because their "musicality is limited."
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