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2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

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Alyona Kostornaia...
Alexandra Trusova...
Stanislava Konstantinova...

They have shining faces...
they have disarming smiles...
They are flying like with wings...
Three angels...

BUT!

Behind the angelic appearances real passions are boiling...
fiery emotions are seething...
and burning feelings are raging!

Will the angels pass the test of Hot Ice?
Live, 8-9th November, on "1"!



Every stage these ads get more and more embarrasing😨
 
Honestly I think the juiciest rivalry this season isnt eteri vs plushenko but alena vs alexandra. Its feels like its a ticking bomb before one of them complains of favoritism over the other and leaves. I think Plushenko will have a lot on his plate to handle and less time to whine on instagram over the judging of a random skater in a competition he's not involved in
 
Honestly I think the juiciest rivalry this season isnt eteri vs plushenko but alena vs alexandra. Its feels like its a ticking bomb before one of them complains of favoritism over the other and leaves. I think Plushenko will have a lot on his plate to handle and less time to whine on instagram over the judging of a random skater in a competition he's not involved in
Aliona sent to Plushenko today https://www.instagram.com/p/CHHXd4PJd75/
Evgeny Viktorovich, I congratulate you on your birthday, I wish you happiness and achievement of all goals, so that dreams come true and athletes bring only joy.

She is going to be such pupil.. : biggrin:
 
Honestly I think the juiciest rivalry this season isnt eteri vs plushenko but alena vs alexandra. Its feels like its a ticking bomb before one of them complains of favoritism over the other and leaves. I think Plushenko will have a lot on his plate to handle and less time to whine on instagram over the judging of a random skater in a competition he's not involved in
Not sure about this. They seem to have two completely different coaching teams, so there can be little talk of favoritism (except if they believe the other one was given better coaches). But it'll be interesting to see how their relationship appears on the outside.
 
Not sure about this. They seem to have two completely different coaching teams, so there can be little talk of favoritism (except if they believe the other one was given better coaches). But it'll be interesting to see how their relationship appears on the outside.

Well if there is any truth to the internet gossip the 2 girls don't like each other and any interaction between Kostornaia and a coach and that coach is booted from Trusova's coaching team (with the exception of Plushenko).
 
I was on one of the Russian Sports sites (plushyfan doesn't like this site) and it was alarming I saw a headline that said wada may ban Russia four years from the Olympics. Whaaaaaat?

This was already posted in the thread below. Feel free to discuss there so as not to derail this one :)
 
I think Plushenko will have a lot on his plate to handle and less time to whine on instagram over the judging of a random skater
I can't let this one slide - that "random" skater was Elizaveta Tuk - former world champion and further to that previously Plushenko's rink mate. She's not some "random" skater.

Anastasia Tarakanova will compete on the ruscup in Kazan.
I'm so excited to hear this! Go, Nastya! :cheer:

And the ad is cheesy, but fun! And no more overdramatic then the ads we get here for rugby league. Some people have no sense of humour at all.
 
Honestly I think the juiciest rivalry this season isnt eteri vs plushenko but alena vs alexandra. Its feels like its a ticking bomb before one of them complains of favoritism over the other and leaves. I think Plushenko will have a lot on his plate to handle and less time to whine on instagram over the judging of a random skater in a competition he's not involved in
Why is it a ticking timebomb? I don't remember so much of this talk when it was the 3A with Tutberidze. This whole Diva characterisation I've started to see about both Aliona and Sasha is really pathetic.
 
I looked through a bunch of stills of all three of them by just searching their names as hashtags on Instagram and I stand by my comment. In competition every one of Rika’s facial expressions is the same— fixed eyes, slightly parted lips, seeming to have apprehension... this doesn’t change until after the final pose is dropped. Shcherbakova is certainly better, but the range is not very broad.. and she has lyrical programs so I’d say if anything her expressions are fine, the programs themselves have just been too similar. She actually does a really good job with firebird, so we probably just don’t see all her ability because she is limited by the program concepts. Kostornaia certainly has the widest expression range. I could post some links here but rather I’d suggest doing what I did. It’ll be faster, and the comparisons more apparent. Interesting to note is the expressiveness of Kihira’s practice skates and exhibition programs, which never reaches the competitive ice. She is very nervous or focused on elements in competition which detract from interpretation. But that nerve not translating to ice for Anna and Aliona should be rewarded, and the difference makes sense for me, especially with Aliona.

As another said it is not the expression alone, but the expression certainly assists. In competitions where the margins are small, things like that can really make a difference.
But again, I feel that the same can be said about Kostornaia. Perhaps it's just a difference of opinion (and when are PCS discussions not based on opinion :rock:), but I guess I just don't really see how Kostornaia has the widest expression range. What she does express she does well (though quite muted compared to Shcherbakova), but like Shcherbakova her range isn't very broad either.

Looking back at my previous post, I do feel the need to clarify that I was referring to not only facial expression but also body language. What I mean by "her movements can look beautiful, but also often lack projection and even look cold/rushed at times" is that she often seems to be disconnected from both the music and the character that she is portraying, even despite her beautiful skating. This is evident by mainly two things - how she rarely takes the time to flesh out her movements, and how she does not always address the nuances of the music. Again, most of the movements look nice anyway, thanks to her gorgeous lines and skating skills, but they're not always correctly timed to or related to the music.

Regarding the part about nerves, I do agree that Kostornaia usually does a better job of hiding them than Kihira does, but either way she still doesn't appear to be fully immersed in the character or the music, at least for me. Neither do Kihira or Valieva for similar reasons, and while Shcherbakova is better than all three of them at this, I'd still say that even she's not the best at it in the current field.
 
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Why is it a ticking timebomb? I don't remember so much of this talk when it was the 3A with Tutberidze. This whole Diva characterisation I've started to see about both Aliona and Sasha is really pathetic.
I agree, when did they ever stop being friends?? Last year at one point Alyona was asked if any of them hang out outside of skating (or something along those lines) and she said her and Sasha had plans to go to the movies together and they always seemed to get along well at competitions and when traveling. I'd say, if anything, it's the parents, not the girls.

I mean obviously, they're direct competitors and there might be some tension. But they're both just hardworking teenagers with a common individual goal and they probably aren't as concerned with each other as people here seem to think. Plus it's not like they didn't train with the same coach before and managed just fine...
 
I agree, when did they ever stop being friends?? Last year at one point Alyona was asked if any of them hang out outside of skating (or something along those lines) and she said her and Sasha had plans to go to the movies together and they always seemed to get along well at competitions and when traveling. I'd say, if anything, it's the parents, not the girls.

I mean obviously, they're direct competitors and there might be some tension. But they're both just hardworking teenagers with a common individual goal and they probably aren't as concerned with each other as people here seem to think. Plus it's not like they didn't train with the same coach before and managed just fine...
If something happened, I feel like it must have been between Europeans and when Sasha left, because they seemed perfectly amicable at Euros based on on-camera footage. Sasha's dad seems pretty intense about her career, which is fair, but if it's drama between the parents, it makes me sad that its affected the girls.
 
I agree, when did they ever stop being friends?? Last year at one point Alyona was asked if any of them hang out outside of skating (or something along those lines) and she said her and Sasha had plans to go to the movies together and they always seemed to get along well at competitions and when traveling. I'd say, if anything, it's the parents, not the girls.
I think the girls (3A, Kamila, Daria etc) are more like classmates or workmates - have some chat in the locker room, hangout when travel together etc but not in each other's inner circle. Should be no big drama and it's gossip/news that exaggerate things
 
I agree, when did they ever stop being friends?? Last year at one point Alyona was asked if any of them hang out outside of skating (or something along those lines) and she said her and Sasha had plans to go to the movies together and they always seemed to get along well at competitions and when traveling. I'd say, if anything, it's the parents, not the girls.

I mean obviously, they're direct competitors and there might be some tension. But they're both just hardworking teenagers with a common individual goal and they probably aren't as concerned with each other as people here seem to think. Plus it's not like they didn't train with the same coach before and managed just fine...
This rivalry talk is typical TSL strategy. And we see it here in GS too. I don't know, but it seems that some people like conflicts? or...want conflicts?

I think it is much more relaxed in reality. In fact, we had a cute little interview with Shcherbakova last week when she was a little bit sentimental about not having Kostornaia and Trusova by her side.

I never pay attention to these rivalry gossips...
 
We don't even know if anything really happened to affect them. It is all just gossip and I would not be surprised at the slightest if lots of black PR was involved, too They were all BFFs for life under Eteri and then got hateful and revengeful divas all of a sudden when moved? Really? How probable is it, judging by your own life experience? As for me, I think neither was or is true. No BFFs then, no mean and hateful divas now. That they have separate coaching teams, not a big deal and probably just best for them..
Lots of bad gossip started when Rozanov stopped working with Sasha cause everyone thought he had been the main reason for her changing coaches. Still it turned out it was ... well, sort of the other way round. :biggrin: Sasha just went to Plushenko for Plushenko. That sounds logical and I find it hard not to believe it. Alyona in her dark hour probably followed Rozanov who had been her fave coach who had given her 3A last season - so she got him,. I tend to believe Sasha relied on Rozanov to start with, as she needed some familiar face in the new environment. Now watching K&C etc. I tend to think she developed a great working relationship with Dima and having Plushy by her side, she just did not need Rozanov any more so she gave him up with no second thought. Similarly with Elena, maybe she just preferred working on her ice dancing skills with Dima and did not get on too well with a lady coach, nothing to do with Alyona again. Who knows? Especially that she has had her SS classes outside of AoP. It might have been just too much and too many experts going in too many directions so she had to choose - and she did.
And as far as we know, Alyona came to AoP really needing help with overcoming her injury and getting back in form again, especially getting her 3A back (and maybe gaining something more:biggrin: ). Just natural that Rozanov was asked to focus on her.
Probably Sasha was not head over heels to be back with Alyona again, but I don;t think she really cared for it as much as everybody wants us to believe. Just a bit of disappointment in the gossip department, but who cares?
 
Honestly, I feel like Anna Shcherbakova is the best out of the current "top tier" seniors at interpreting music. She really appears to feel the music, whether it be more lyrical like Elegie or Perfume, or intense like Firebird or Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso. I do find that her relatively weaker SS (weaker than her performance ability at least) takes away from my enjoyment of her programs, as well as the lackluster choreographer, but she is an excellent performer. Her facial expressions stay in character throughout a performance and she appears to be really feeling every note, every crescendo, every decrescendo. Truly fantastic! Now if she could get some better programs...
 
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