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She is also banned from coaching and choreographing.
This is so sad for Sotskova. But it is entirely her fault alone. It seems extreme, BUT Russia is on such thin ice regarding doping that Sotskova should have known that forging a doctor's medical excuse note is very serious. Russia had no choice. Sucks to be her, but she has to own 100% of her punishment.
 
That's how I am/was. I want to be around the best people, even if I am the worst in the group. Because I know that no matter the group I will never be the worst for long (second worst maybe, but not THE worst!! lol). I never understood these skaters who want to be the sole Queen of the Ice at their rink, where they are the top and have no competitors stealing their thunder. I guess some people need that kind of coddling, reassurance, but I think it is weak. How are you going to maximize your potential if all you're told is how wonderful you are? I'm really tough on myself, and I am aware of all my flaws/faults real or imagined. I wouldn't want to have to tell people at the rink to shove it and stop lying to me if they are just laying it on thick and kissing up to me. I don't do flattery. Especially when it's unwarranted. Doesn't work for me. Tell me what I'm doing WRONG, please. I already know what I'm doing right, you know?

It appears Aliona needs the coddling and being the sole "star". She tried it for a year with Plush, but it didn't work. I'm glad she's going back to Eteri. She was the number one skater in the world a year ago. She needs to rediscover her magic with Eteri that got her to the top. All is not lost. I just hope she regains her health quickly. Who knows, maybe the whole health situation was exacerbated by the stress of the AOP fiasco and once she's back 'home' her health will remarkably return.
It really depends on the type of person you are and what works for you. For example Yuzuru did have Javi to compete with at times, but often he would be in Japan or simply not train together.

In general in life it seems that it's better to feel lousy and like you're bad at a very good team/school/whatever because once you're out of there/in a competition you fare much better. It can still vary from person to person: how focused you are, the capabilities of your trainers to bring the best out of you, what kind of situation doesn't get in your head and rattles you.
 
Wait, what does it mean in English then, if not tonsillitis? In German it‘s the same as in Russian then, I guess.
In medical circles if someone has "angina" it is almost always referring to chest pain. Most likely due to myocardial ischemia (lack of oxygen to heart muscle). However, other things can imitate angina, like panic/anxiety attacks, indigestion, gastroesophageal reflux disease, referred pain from somewhere else, etc.
 
Not to go too OT, but I'm nearly a 100% sure that the "angina" they were talking about regarding Kostornaya is the throat condition. It's not simply a sore throat, I've had it and it's no picnic. The pain in the throat is immense, you can barely swallow or eat, the throat near closes up and you usually have quite the fever. You need antibiotics to cure it and even then it'll take a while to get back to normal.
 
Not to go too OT, but I'm nearly a 100% sure that the "angina" they were talking about regarding Kostornaya is the throat condition. It's not simply a sore throat, I've had it and it's no picnic. The pain in the throat is immense, you can barely swallow or eat, the throat near closes up and you usually have quite the fever. You need antibiotics to cure it and even then it'll take a while to get back to normal.
It's been years since I've last had it and I still shiver at the memory of it.
 
Not to go too OT, but I'm nearly a 100% sure that the "angina" they were talking about regarding Kostornaya is the throat condition. It's not simply a sore throat, I've had it and it's no picnic. The pain in the throat is immense, you can barely swallow or eat, the throat near closes up and you usually have quite the fever. You need antibiotics to cure it and even then it'll take a while to get back to normal.
Sounds like strep throat.
 
No, sore throat is "горло болит". I have never heard anyone call simple sore throat "ангина". Maybe people who are sufficiently uneducated to not understand the difference exist, but Plyushenko/Aliona certainly weren't talking about a case of sore throat.
Well, I think that only professionals can draw a clear line between just a sore throat which is горло болит and angina which is tonsillitis. The reason is that there is no such a condition as "sore throat". It is still a manifestation of some infection. I don't know what exactly Pluschenko meant but I and people around me say angina rather than sore throat when it hurts more than usual.
 
Plushenko in the aftermath of Aliona’s departure is saying now all his athletes will have contracts, so that they now have “rights, but also responsibilities”. So contracts are getting implemented after all, and i.e. Sasha won’t be able to just get up and leave, if she ever decided to
 
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In all honesty I believe that's the secret to her success. When you train everyday with pretty much the biggest competitors in the field, you know exactly what you need to do to be competitive and try to get in front of them. I'd imagine that's rather stressful but, again, it leads to good outcomes in competition. They aren't afraid to compete b/c they compete every day. They come in battle tested and it's why so many of them are so focused when they go out to compete.
I believe the psychology of training is very different to that of competing. There are many known athletes who win all training sessions and never deliver when it matters. So high drop-out rates belong to a highly competitive environment. It doesn't work for everyone, I believe Sasha is the one for whom it doesn't.
I think if she does go back to Eteri, and restabilizes her jumps, Sasha will be in trouble for the Olympic team. I think Alena is actually the federation's favourite - her PCS are still sky high even with struggles through the choreography and Lakernik got personally involved when she was struggling. No one did the same for Sasha when she fell all those times at Rostelecom.
What would work for Sasha, I don't know. I think that even her result at the coming Worlds will not be reliable enough to decide, because of the unusual year. I sincerely hope she will overcome that pattern of not delivering, a phobia? (What is usually called "minus start" in Russian).
About Aliona, I agree - and my guess is that Aliona's shock after the cup final SP and the decision to go back to Eteri are connected to something Lakernik said or promised. Aliona seems to be a kind of an athlete who can thrive only feeling she is not only the best but also the most appreciated. (BTW Sasha Boikova also seems to have some features of this kind of psyche, she delivers better in No. 1 position). A competitive environment for Aliona might be helpful, if she comes back to Eteri to get help and regain her skills. But if it is to get her previous prima position, I wonder if it is possible.
I have a feeling that the move can be connected to the decision on the Worlds team - and there are now chances that the team might change.
 
Plushenko in the aftermath of Aliona’s departure is saying now all his athletes will have contracts, so that they now have “rights, but also responsibilities”. So contracts are getting implemented after all, and i.e. Sasha won’t be able to just get up and leave, if she ever decided to
Interesting! I know nothing about Russian contract law, but in several countries, entering into a contract with a minor is legally binding only on the adult and not the minor, unless the parents/guardians of the minor ratify the contract. Presumably then the contracts would be with the skaters' parents, until the skaters reach the age of majority?
 
So if I'm understanding everything correctly, Aliona is now reportedly accepted by Eteri again whilst Rozanov stays at AOP, right?
It really makes me wonder who has the magic that once brought Aliona to her best. Was it Rozanov, or Eteri, or the overall intense training environment at Eteri's group?
 
So if I'm understanding everything correctly, Aliona is now reportedly accepted by Eteri again whilst Rozanov stays at AOP, right?
It really makes me wonder who has the magic that once brought Aliona to her best. Was it Rozanov, or Eteri, or the overall intense training environment at Eteri's group?
If it was Rozanov solely, she obviously wouldn't leave him now... (Btw, I wonder how Rozanov feels at the moment, he might find himself in a kind of empty space...)
 
Oh, well, everything's well that ends well. I really think someone should take notes and translate it all into a TV series - good plot, believable characters, good guys/bad guys ratio in check and having the public nicely balanced and involved, twists and turns keeping viewers on their toes, always waiting anxiously for the next ... well, season :biggrin:
 
Imo it’s good decision for Aliona to get back to Eteri who has the biggest power in ladies now. Plushenko has made some strange decisions like giving Aliona two new programs after her ilness which was complete nonsense. Aliona has definitely bigger chance to make the Olympics with Eteri, but I wonder what atmosphere in the rink will be.
 
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